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George Zimmerman to Be Charged in Trayvon Martin's Death
ABC News ^ | April 11, 2012 | Matt Gutman

Posted on 04/11/2012 11:58:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A Florida special prosecutor has decided to charge neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, sources told ABC News.

The decision by Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey is expected to be announced at a 6 p.m. news conference in Jacksonville, Fla.

The prosecutor's ruling is certain to provoke controversy in Sanford, Fla., where shooting took place and across the country.

Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic neighborhood watch captain, shot and killed Martin, who was 17 and black, on Feb. 26 after following the teenager for several minutes.

The special prosecutor's ruling came one day after Zimmerman's legal team quit because they had lost contact with him, and suggested that the pressure of the case had "pushed him over the edge."(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; racewar; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With what discharging a weapon within so many feet of a residence?


51 posted on 04/11/2012 12:40:29 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Maverick68

What kind of government is it that would allow young black men to attack its citizens with impunity? I suppose the victim is supposed to remain passive until the point of death, and hope that after his or her passing, the legal system will lock the attacker up.

And why do we put up with this nonsense? Why don’t we just peaceably separate? Why not be two countries, instead of fighting all the time? The 21% of the population who are liberal and want to run the nation have no respect for us, anyway.


52 posted on 04/11/2012 12:41:27 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Freepers,

Believe it or not, Zimmerman has a pretty good case for political asylum in another country. Pretty astounding in this day and age, but true. Look at the facts:

1. He can't get a fair trial here. Jurors will be intimidated.

2. If he turns himself in, there's a good chance it wouldn't even make it trial. After all, there's a bounty on his head.

3. It's obvious he'd get no civil rights protection from the national government here. In fact, they seem to be on the side of the mob, and will aid in the persecution.

4. The peace officers, whose duty it is to protect the innocent until proven otherwise, can't even protect itself from the political mob.

This is the book definition of a political refugee status. If I were him, and I couldn't get out of the country, I'd find a foreign embassy or consulate, and ask for protection. Yeah, I know it sounds third world, but he's got a case.

53 posted on 04/11/2012 12:42:55 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: FrdmLvr

The special prosecutor is a gutless coward. She has only been reviewing the case two weeks, never even tried to interview Zimmerman and has a very questionable case with little in the way of forensic evidence or eyewitness testimony This is one of those cases where the politics of the issue takes precedence over the lack of evidence or the potential outcome of the case. She would rather lose than take the heat of a dispassionate review of the evidence.That is why she chose not to put the case in front of the grand jury for fear of a no bill.


54 posted on 04/11/2012 12:43:08 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: fruser1

I would love to see the tables turned on blacks, who are among the most publicly racist element in our society, and have the Federal laws on civil rights hate crimes used against them in black-on-white crimes.


55 posted on 04/11/2012 12:45:57 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: TheThirdRuffian
“Saw this coming when she didn’t use the Grand Jury — knew she’d get a “no bill.””

Yep; no grand jury would have come close to indicting Zimmerman, given the available evidence.

56 posted on 04/11/2012 12:46:47 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: jimjohn

You know thats not such a bad idea. It would be a huge black eye for the O administration. Very embarrassing but it sounds like he has a case.


57 posted on 04/11/2012 12:47:31 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: hillarys cankles

“Brazil would be nice. If the facts prove him innocent he couldn’t even count on the AG of the US to stand up for him. It’s all about race and he’s the wrong color.”

Remember, Zimmerman’s father was a judge. I would think he is the one who got the son out of Florida fast. This judge father knows the ropes. The son is very fortunate to have a judge father. Let’s give the judge father some credit for doing the right thing to save the son’s life and to know the right thing to do from here.


58 posted on 04/11/2012 12:48:13 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Unless they have evidence that we don’t have (like an entry wound in Martin’s back or something), the only prosecution strategy I could see is trying to invalidate Zimmerman’s account. Since there does not seem to be any witnesses that contradict his account, how exactly are they going to do that?

Jury intimidation.

59 posted on 04/11/2012 12:49:45 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The official didn't know the charge and spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information. The official said that authorities know where Zimmerman is.

Really? Not authorized to release this information? Surely not!

60 posted on 04/11/2012 12:50:02 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

“They just look at Whitey, and get murder lust. Some of us are gonna shoot if attacked, and the attackers are gonna die.”

I have very light skin, and blue eyes and blonde hair. I now think blacks see a target on my back. I ordered more ammo from Cheaper Than Dirt yesterday.

I live in Texas and I will shoot if threatened.


61 posted on 04/11/2012 12:57:02 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

charge him with leaving his blood on the sidewalk from his head wound? Illegal parking while he went searching for the hooded one? Shooting a hole in his skittle bag? Please put me on the jury.


62 posted on 04/11/2012 1:05:20 PM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: jimjohn
Believe it or not, Zimmerman has a pretty good case for political asylum in another country. Pretty astounding in this day and age, but true. Look at the facts: ...

Wonder if George Zimmerman has duel citizenship....Hmm

63 posted on 04/11/2012 1:07:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are they going to charge him with—involuntary manslaughter?


64 posted on 04/11/2012 1:08:01 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Pathetic. Saw this coming when she didn’t use the Grand Jury — knew she’d get a “no bill.”

That was my thought too. Now the dog and pony show will begin.

65 posted on 04/11/2012 1:08:37 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: Slings and Arrows

Good point on jury intimidation..also..watch for fights on who sits on the jury.


66 posted on 04/11/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by alamogal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This just in: Zimmerman will be charged with violating the city noise ordinance by discharging a firearm within city limits!


67 posted on 04/11/2012 1:16:38 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Marcella

My bet is that Zimmerman is with his mother’s family in Lima, Peru... ‘If the prosecutors know where he is’, then I guess they will file for extradition, if we have an extradition treaty with Peru.


68 posted on 04/11/2012 1:18:13 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
What the article doesn’t say what they are charging him: littering for leaving the shell on the ground.

Early reports were that the police recovered Zimmerman's semiautomatic pistol with "a full magazine and an empty cartridge case in the chamber". About the only way that could have happened is if Martin grabbed the gun in his left hand and tried to wrestle it away from Zimmerman. If Zimmerman had his finger in the trigger guard it is possible that Martin caused the gun to fire by jerking it away from Zimmerman and towards his chest. Martin's hand would have been holding the gun by its slide, thus preventing it from cycling and ejecting the empty cartridge case and reloading a live round from the magazine.

The lack of an empty shell case on the ground says a lot about what happened during the struggle, two people had a hand on the weapon when it fired. Martin's left hand and forearm should be checked for nitrate residue, and the slide should be checked for fingerprints other than Zimmerman's.

Regards,
GtG

69 posted on 04/11/2012 1:19:51 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why bother with a trial? Al and Jesse won’t be satisfied until Zimmerman is hanging from a sour apple tree.


70 posted on 04/11/2012 1:20:05 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: BigEdLB; maggief; kristinn

My thoughts exactly.... Duel citizenship? Can a citizen of another country be extradicted?


71 posted on 04/11/2012 1:25:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: exhaustguy

[[Have we reached the point in which shooting down an unarmed person in a public place is not sufficient evidence to charge an individual?]]

you are leavign several key facts out apaprently in order to support your contention that everyoen should be arrested when a shooting oocures-

1: Zimmerman shot trayvon AFTER Trayvon tried to kill him and tried to grab his gun from him (which was STILL HOLSTERED at that point)

2: Witnesses have coem forward and corroborated Zimmerman’s account of the fight

3: Injuries to AZimmerman corroborate his account that he was assaulted and an attempt was made on his life.

Have we reached a point in this copuntry qwhere we IGNORE trhe evidfence anbd justy charge everyone invovled with murder if a shooting occures regardless of whether or not it was justifiable homicide?


72 posted on 04/11/2012 1:26:29 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: popdonnelly

[[What kind of government is it that would allow young black men to attack its citizens with impunity?]]

The kind of governemnt liek ours that is run by a racist white black man


73 posted on 04/11/2012 1:29:21 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I am not mistaken, there still needs to be a preliminary hearing to determine if there is probable cause. If this ever goes to trial, he would be better off having a bench trial instead of a jury trial. That is if he can get a judge who is not a democratic hack.


74 posted on 04/11/2012 1:30:10 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The special prosecutor's ruling came one day after Zimmerman's legal team quit

This statement, among others in the article, is a flat out lie. No "ruling" has come down yet and won't until 6:00 PM. All we have is, once again, unnamed sources a favorite of the MSM.

75 posted on 04/11/2012 1:30:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: BigEdLB
Rush asked and answered, "Where could he go? Brazil. Brazil doesn't have extradition with the US".

Not sure if you'd have to be a citizen, though.

76 posted on 04/11/2012 1:30:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: alamogal

No doubt. This is going to be ugly.


77 posted on 04/11/2012 1:39:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: South Hawthorne
white Hispanic

There's the proof that this is all about race.

When was the last time you heard the press call Obama white black?

The first white black President?

Zimmerman's gonna get hung out to dry.

78 posted on 04/11/2012 1:42:29 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: Lou L

If she doesn’t convict him, Holder will prosecute him for violating Martin’s civil rights. No double jeopardy protection.


79 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:21 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: BigEdLB

“My bet is that Zimmerman is with his mother’s family in Lima, Peru... ‘If the prosecutors know where he is’, then I guess they will file for extradition, if we have an extradition treaty with Peru.”

I hope that’s where they sent him and I don’t know if he could be extradited from there. When the two attorneys gave the press conference, they said people would have to look outside Florida to find him.

Someone here mentioned Bermuda and that is just a hop for an airplane from Florida. Get there fast. It’s also according to how much money the father, a retired judge, has to keep him out of the country.

I would go where there is no extradition because he is going to be killed, somehow, some way. He would have to live there forever but that’s better than being dead.


80 posted on 04/11/2012 1:45:26 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Obama is President Yoo Hoo.


81 posted on 04/11/2012 1:45:30 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

What makes you think the folks running this show trial to stop a race war give a damn about a fair trial by an impartial jury? This a dog & pony show for the cause of political correctness complete with a preordained verdict.


82 posted on 04/11/2012 1:50:04 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: jagfar

The game is rigged, the judge will disallow evidence that is helpful to the defense & may even go so far as a directed verdict. Just watch & see for yourself the lynch mob will have its way.


83 posted on 04/11/2012 1:54:06 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: exhaustguy
exhaustguy said: "Have we reached the point in which shooting down an unarmed person in a public place is not sufficient evidence to charge an individual?"

Juries get to decide whether the facts presented during the trial prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant committed a crime.

The judge in the case must not turn over to a jury the power to decide guilt or innocence if the prosecution failed to provide sufficient facts to prove their case.

The presumption of innocence must prevail unless the prosecution can present some evidence that is not consistent with self defense.

What would that evidence be?

It can't be that Zimmerman admitted a racial bias, because the audio tapes of him mentioning race were doctored to hide the fact that Zimmerman never brought up race.

It can't be that Zimmerman showed no indications of injury, because the main stream media failed to report that enhancement of the videos did show injuries.

If there was really evidence that was inconsistent with a claim of self defense, it is extremely likely that we would have heard of it already.

If the prosecution fails to present sufficient evidence that a crime was committed, even if all the facts alleged by the prosecution are believed, then the judge is obligated to dismiss the case. There would be no role for the jury.

84 posted on 04/11/2012 1:55:48 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

And it sounds so ignorant. It is redundant. All hispanics are white. So saying white hispanic is the same as saying white caucasians. I do not know what their motivations are for making themselves look like idiots.


85 posted on 04/11/2012 1:56:22 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gender War - Check

Class War - Check

Race War - Check

OK, the Obama re-election campaign is in full gear now ...

86 posted on 04/11/2012 1:59:41 PM PDT by Bill Buckner
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To: hillarys cankles

“It’s all about race and he’s the wrong color.”

I’ve asked this before, and I’ll ask it again.

WHERE THE HELL ARE LaRaza and all of the other Hispanic Democrat Race Pimps in all of this, and why are they utterly silent?


87 posted on 04/11/2012 2:04:50 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What Good Can a Shotgun Do Against An Army of Crazed Rioters?

Answer: Bring them to a halt, quickly!

This gives the locals time to buy up some shotgun ammo and determine where the best line of fire would be for various situations.

When the action is about to take place, beginners will talk caliber, professionals will discuss tactics.

If the city council makes it law that all marchers will be required to put forth liability insurance before a permit will be issued and this is enforced by the towns business and property owners standing firm with loaded shotguns, there will not be a riot.


88 posted on 04/11/2012 2:16:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered ...)
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To: tcrlaf

Because they think the charges are appropriate and hispanics do not think in a herd mentality. Did you defend Ted Bundy? I do not understand why so many are asking the same question you are. It goes right over my little head. Do you really think hispanics defend people simply because they are hispanic? They dont vote that way either. Henry Bonilla was my congresscritter. He never got the hispanic vote. One’s ethnicity does not make you stupid.


89 posted on 04/11/2012 2:18:25 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: hoosiermama

good afternoon hoosiermama...wonder if someone from fla could help me. It is my understanding Zimmerman will not face simple manslaughter but aggravated manslaughter, the aggravating factor being Martin’s age..same as if he had shot a police officer....this carries minimum 25 to life. But wish someone from fla could confirm this.


90 posted on 04/11/2012 2:21:33 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

You mentioned when we were brainstorming the other evening that he had not seen his brother in years.

Maybe the brother is living in South America with his mother’s family. George could join them. He would have duel citizenship just like Obuma. Just sayin......


91 posted on 04/11/2012 2:27:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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92 posted on 04/11/2012 2:27:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can be impartial.


93 posted on 04/11/2012 2:36:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Shouldn't they be called watermen?)
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To: South Hawthorne

If he were dark skinned he’d be a “black Hispanic”. They’re always fair and impartial.

BTW what 20th century nation scrapped it’s race code, the one that judged people by their skin color?


94 posted on 04/11/2012 2:37:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Lou L

...and the ensuing lawsuits?


95 posted on 04/11/2012 2:41:38 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: hoosiermama

I guess he could hoosiermama...but is that really constructive? The country he arrives in does not have to accept him and might not because he is facing aggravated manslaughter probably. And since we are not asking for death penalty, even if he gets into the country, most likely, wont they extradite him?


96 posted on 04/11/2012 2:43:39 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Or is he a black white?


97 posted on 04/11/2012 2:44:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: hoosiermama

HLN reporting Zimmerman has voluntarily surrendered in Tallahassee. Sp???


98 posted on 04/11/2012 2:53:01 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: popdonnelly
“Why don’t we just peaceably separate?”

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I don't have a better solution.

Our differences are deeply fundamental, and wholly intractable.

99 posted on 04/11/2012 2:58:14 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Marcella

I hope the ‘judge’ sues the pants off those who put his son in this situation. They NEED suing - every last one!! And let his son live in luxury for the rest of his life.


100 posted on 04/11/2012 4:20:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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