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Mitt would govern as conservative (And I have a bridge to sell you)
Politico ^ | April 11, 2012 | Keith Koffler

Posted on 04/11/2012 12:01:35 PM PDT by C19fan

Conservatives shouldn’t fret about the politics of their nearly-presumptive nominee. Mitt Romney will most certainly govern as one of them. He’s guaranteed to — for the exact reason they think he won’t.

If Romney really is the political animal his detractors on the right suspect him to be, he’ll shape his presidency with a single goal: Winning a second term. To do that, he will need to make sure there is no running room on his right for someone to launch a primary challenge.

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The only close call for an incumbent GOP president in a primary was Ford in 1976. I would call than an anomaly for the simple reason Ford was appointed to be POTUS. The author cites Bush the Elder but the only primary challenge he faced was Buchanan which was over after NH.
1 posted on 04/11/2012 12:01:38 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Mitt will govern as a left of Center Republican—Bad yes, but a VAST improvement over the true leftist/Socialist we have now. One thing Mittens has is a healthy dose of Capitalism gained from years of work in the private sector—I say give him a chance.


2 posted on 04/11/2012 12:05:07 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: C19fan

No he’s not a conservative but he’s also not a racist (anti-white) thug so if he’s the nominee he’ll get my vote. At least Congress won’t have be wetting their panties in fear of being called “rayciss” (anti-white) for opposing anything he does. Obango can thank himself and “his people” in the nbpp for changing my mind after I swore I’d never vote for Rommey.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 12:07:21 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: C19fan
Ay, caramba!.

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4 posted on 04/11/2012 12:08:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: C19fan
The last President who was denied renomination for a second term was Chester A. Arthur in 1884.

Mitt-Witt will have all the power and resources of being the incumbent President (assuming he somehow pulls off a James Buster Douglas move and miraculously KO's 0bama), he isn't going to be challenged by ANY candidate because the GOP-e will be solidly behind their anointed RINO, so forget that pipe dream of a conservative contesting a hypothetical President Romney's nomination in 2016.
5 posted on 04/11/2012 12:09:19 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: C19fan

I doubt he will but for our sakes, I hope he will. If he replaces Ginsburg with a real conservative, that may be good enough for me. Still won’t vote for him (not that it’ll matter. I live in MA).


6 posted on 04/11/2012 12:10:18 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I was a Rick guy, but with him out I’ve become an ABO guy. If it’s Romney, so be it. I agree that Romney’s first term won’t be the one to worry about; he’ll be devoted to getting the economy moving or he’ll be out in 2016. If he’s successful, it’s that second term we have to be really concerned with. The old Mitt, trying government fixes, may well re-emerge. A conservative Congress can keep him in check.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 12:11:33 PM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: mrsmel
At least Congress won’t have be wetting their panties in fear of being called “rayciss” (anti-white) for opposing anything he does.

Nope. He'll have toadies like John McCain and Linsey Graham cheering him on for every leftist thing he does and encouraging "compromise" with the left.
8 posted on 04/11/2012 12:11:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: C19fan

I think Buchanan exposed the fact that Bush was weak, thus re-enforcing the notion that Bush was very, very beatable...sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But back to the main point. I think this article has some merit.

Clearly, Romney has no principles.

Therefore, it is just as wrong to say that he is a liberal as to say that he is a conservative.

He just wants to be President, and he will do whatever it takes to do that. He’ll do anything and say anything.

Ergo, it is likely that he will govern center-right (IF he wins...as of today, pretty clear that it is mathematically impossible....but that is only as of TODAY) to avoid the primary challenge. GWB certainly learned that from his dad.

(All that said, we are really speculatin’ here...cause I think it is at best a coin toss as to whether Romney can defeat obama...but I sure hope he can).


9 posted on 04/11/2012 12:12:12 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: C19fan
If Romney really is the political animal his detractors on the right suspect him to be, he’ll shape his presidency with a single goal: Winning a second term.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 12:15:53 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: C19fan

Mitt will be a disappointment, but we might be left with an America that still resembles the greatness of our history. With Obama, there will be nothing left to start over on, just rubble and radicals. It’s a difficult choice, try to salvage enough to rebuild America as it should be, or let the Marxists finish destroying it.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 12:20:31 PM PDT by pallis
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To: C19fan

Romney will not govern at all.... he will not win.


12 posted on 04/11/2012 12:20:47 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Kharis13

in my years as a Republican primary voter, I have “supported” (ie, rooted for) but never been able to vote for, the following (late state in the process), because none of them ever lasted:

Jack Kemp
Pete DuPont
Steve Forbes
Phil Gramm
Pat Buchanan
Fred Thompson
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
Newt Gingrich
Rick Perry

I have also liked Bob Dornan and Duncan Hunter, but didn’t get to really root for them b/c of other candidates.

Maybe someday I’ll get to vote in a real primary.

But I doubt it.


13 posted on 04/11/2012 12:21:04 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: C19fan

The Mittster must be planning on a catch-up course over the summer..../sarcasm


14 posted on 04/11/2012 12:23:09 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Kharis13
I agree that Romney’s first term won’t be the one to worry about; he’ll be devoted to getting the economy moving or he’ll be out in 2016.

Franky I'm astounded that the fantasies some of you people are telling yourselves to support the scumbag. If he's out it will be a democrat who replaces him. Of course the big fantasy is that he'll win once.
15 posted on 04/11/2012 12:23:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Romney CANNOT win.

This was set up by the DNC and Soros for idiots.

ROMNEY CREATED OBAMACARE.

ROMNEY SUPPORTED TARP.

ROMNEY IS BEYOND WALL STREET.

ROMNEY GOVERNED MASS TO FAILURE.

ROMNEY APPOINTED LIBERAL JUDGES ONLY.

America will NEVER elect a dog abuser
even IF he is ineligible like Milt.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 12:25:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: C19fan
The fight within the Party *stops* when the nominee is determined.I'll vote for Romney even though he's not my first choice...or second choice.I will vote for the lesser of two evils.Hell,I voted for McLame.

THIS WILL BE A CLOSE ELECTION AND THE COUNTRY CANNOT AFFORD FOUR YEARS OF AN **UNACCOUNTABLE** MAOIST.

Look what such a Maoist has done to this country knowing that he had to face the voters...and fundraisers...one more time.

17 posted on 04/11/2012 12:26:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: C19fan

18 posted on 04/11/2012 12:27:03 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: C19fan

The true test will be his picks for administration positions.

He should campaign on saying who for FBI director, Attorney General, and Secretary of State.

If he chooses among Santorum, Gingrich, Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Bachman, Palin etc. he will be believable, at least.


19 posted on 04/11/2012 12:27:10 PM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Gator113

Axlegrease has to be thinking:

“I’m the luckiest sumb!tch in history. I going to get Baraq Obama re-elected with $4 gas, 16% real unemployment, 46 million on food stamps and recurring $1.5 trillion deficits.”


20 posted on 04/11/2012 12:28:46 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Gator113

fianlly, commonsense and reality post on this feeble Romney troll debate... let us do this state by state...

MA - gone
NV - gone union death
PA - gone union death
OH - gone union death
WI - gone union death
NM- weak but gone
CO - weak but gone
Ok - americanelect spoiler - gone
NY - gone
CA - gone
FL- crap shoot
NJ - gone - no matter how much fatso’s moneysucking hacks claim it will be in play
BTW - americanselect.org is already in 25 states - their goal is to re-elect Obama - they will pull enough indies to stop dumbass Romney.

Romney SuperPac - they do not care - they will take either Obama or Romney to be their bitch - will cut deal close to election

GOP Establishment Pacs etc - make money either way, just make more if Romney is their bitch

Media Lame or so called cons - make millions and millions and millions either way - they do not care

POTUS face it - gone

Conservatives and those that support freedom? Just more of the crap sandwich either way..


21 posted on 04/11/2012 12:33:41 PM PDT by Fred (http://etchasketchmittromney.com/)
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To: C19fan
If Romney really is the political animal his detractors on the right suspect him to be, he’ll shape his presidency with a single goal: Winning a second term

Right at the beginning this guy ignores the record. Mitt did the exact OPPOSITE in Massachusetts. He did a lousy job. He was so bad that he ran rather than face the music.

He has also said recently that a second term isn't necessarily in the cards for him.

22 posted on 04/11/2012 12:34:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: ConservativeDude

Romney certainly has no principles, but he does have a track record. His prior history has always been socialist. His lineage is extremely liberal. His father bowed to Alinsky. He cites his mother as the reason was pro-abortion. His accomplishments as governor have been socialist all the way. In fact, no one else running, republican or democrat, has his record of liberal accomplishments. When asked, Romney is unable to come up with anything he’s done, other than marry and raise a family, to further the conservative cause. Obama married and raised a family does that make him a conservative? I don’t think so.

The only difference between him and other libs is that he has an (r) next to his name. The only thing he has done since he began his run for the presidency is to have tricked a lot of conservatives into believing he is one.

So I would have to disagree with you about it being equally wrong to say he’s a flaming liberal.


23 posted on 04/11/2012 12:39:42 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: C19fan

It doesn’t take much to be a “conservative” when you have far left wing radical libs like Obama, Reid and Pelosi running the show....


24 posted on 04/11/2012 12:41:05 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: C19fan

Mitt will be severely conservative, as he was in Massachusetts.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 12:41:31 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Waryone
The only thing he has done since he began his run for the presidency is to have tricked a lot of conservatives into believing he is one.

While his superPAC has savaged every other conservative in the race.
26 posted on 04/11/2012 12:42:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Lucky9teen

Hey, I like that shirt. But they could leave out the small print and it would be more truthful.


27 posted on 04/11/2012 12:43:12 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: C19fan

“Like” a conservative... but not AS one.


28 posted on 04/11/2012 12:43:54 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: pallis
It’s a difficult choice, try to salvage enough to rebuild America as it should be, or let the Marxists finish destroying it.

Salvage. And much like McCain's choice of Palin as his running mate that energized Conservatives, we have yet to see who Mitt might choose to run with - hopefully Allen West.

29 posted on 04/11/2012 12:44:40 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: mkjessup; cotton1706

BUMP

We’d be stuck with a socialist GOP

...

Cotton- His judicial appointments in Mass were very very very liberal.


30 posted on 04/11/2012 12:50:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: DTogo
Salvage. And much like McCain's choice of Palin as his running mate that energized Conservatives, we have yet to see who Mitt might choose to run with - hopefully Allen West.

You're assuming that we're all stupid enough to fall for that ploy again. (Which failed BTW)
31 posted on 04/11/2012 12:57:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: C19fan

I am no Romney supporter and I am very disapointed to see Santorum leave. That said, I have seen a lot of popular conservatives back Romney: Coulter, Nikki Haley, Jindal, Christie, Rubio, Cantor, Issa, Paul Ryan, Mike Savage and others. Each time FReepers attack the endorser. Do the endorsers know something we FReepers don’t? Will Romney move to the Right after the election? Is it possible that Romney can be a stealth Conservative, secretly getting the independent vote? It’s all I got at this point.


32 posted on 04/11/2012 1:02:46 PM PDT by sportutegrl (Nah, If Romney were a stealth Conservative, Palin would have endorsed him.)
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To: GeronL

I know. I live in MA.

I do, however, seem to recall that we forced President Bush to withdraw Harriet Miers and appoint Sam Alito. With a senate in republican hands that is even more conservative than the majority in 2005, I believe we can succeed in getting conservative judges. And also, there is an enormous and increasing knowledge and interest in constitutional government that may force Romney’s (and the senator’s) hand.


33 posted on 04/11/2012 1:07:17 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: C19fan; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Impy

Romney is an outright liberal, but of the Republican brand:
He just doesnt want to pay higher taxes. He is like Bill O Reilly,


34 posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: DTogo

I hope that doesn’t happen. I hope Allen West doesn’t have to carry the stench of Romney with him for the rest of his political career. I can’t forget what the McCain/Romney group did to Palin. The socialist wing of the republican party has not met a single conservative they haven’t wanted to destroy.

Under the fool me once theory, the addition of West to the ticket won’t help Romney anywhere near what Palin did for McCain, simply because we’ve seen that trick before. Those who are already going to hold their nose for Romney might feel better about themselves, but those who know what a socialist Romney is, also know that nothing would change. Allen West at the top of the ticket would be fantastic though.


35 posted on 04/11/2012 1:12:33 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: cripplecreek

Nope, but you’re certainly free to stay home or write in your fantasy candidate this November.


36 posted on 04/11/2012 1:13:36 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

I think you need to wipe your chin.


37 posted on 04/11/2012 1:17:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Waryone

I haven’t heard of one solitary thing that conservatives won’t have to concede to vote for Romney. Not one.


38 posted on 04/11/2012 1:20:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: C19fan

To politico if you’re not a communist you are a right winger.


39 posted on 04/11/2012 1:21:30 PM PDT by DManA
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To: sportutegrl

According to Rush Limbaugh, Romney is able to convince people by talking to them. I can’t recall the number of times I’ve heard people say ‘sit down with Romney one on one and he’ll convince you.’ I also can’t forget hearing about his wife saying he can argue either side of an issue and she can’t tell which one he supports.

There is a difference between “popular” conservative and principled conservative. I know that you are hoping beyond hope that all the liberal things he did in Massachusetts were just an attempt to fool people. That his support for the gay agenda and $50.00 for an aborted baby were just his way of kidding people. Remember that if Mitt’s mouth is open, he’s trying to fool someone. But you can look at his history and his upbringing and you’ll see there is nothing in his background that would make him conservative.


40 posted on 04/11/2012 1:25:49 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: Waryone

4 years of Romney might be bad, but 4 more years of Obama would be certain disaster. I would expect Allen West, if asked to run with Romney, will do what’s best to save the country he served in uniform, and not concern himself with political “stench.”


41 posted on 04/11/2012 1:29:28 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: cripplecreek

Nope. He’ll have toadies like John McCain and Linsey Graham cheering him on for every leftist thing he does and encouraging “compromise” with the left.

...And calling moderate/liberal positions conservative... thereby detroying what true conservatism really is.


42 posted on 04/11/2012 1:37:43 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: DTogo

I’m sure Col. West would willingly sacrifice himself. He’s done it before. But I’m not so sure we should keep sending conservatives to the slaughter, especially to help liberals, while the left (socialist republicans and democrats) have no problems making sure our people die politically.


43 posted on 04/11/2012 1:39:33 PM PDT by Waryone (Remember your ABCS (anybody but commie socialists) = ABM (anybody but Mitt), ABO (anybody but Obama))
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To: C19fan
To do that, he will need to make sure there is no running room on his right for someone to launch a primary challenge.

Then why didn't he do that this year?

Next time will be the same as this time. Romney will find and maybe even fund several slightly more conservative challengers to split the conservative vote.

If he has conservative challengers in the primary, he can use that to promote his moderate credentials in the general election. He'll be the very compassionate compassionate conservative. (Yes, I intended to repeat compassionate).

44 posted on 04/11/2012 1:53:55 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Waryone

My hope is that someone like Allen West, not afraid to speak his mind, would take Romney aside and caution him to “don’t go there” from time to time.


45 posted on 04/11/2012 1:55:42 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: C19fan

the only one tho think he is a republican are the RINO Romney bots.

So being a conservative to these fools is looking after your wallet while homo.s cross dressers, teach men having sex with men to 5 year olds like in MA etc are to be ignored

frigging idiots


46 posted on 04/11/2012 1:58:03 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: sickoflibs
From the article:

But, again, Romney can’t flip back, without drawing observations that he has a spine of gelatin. There is no riper topic for enticing a single-issue primary opponent than abortion. Romney will likely pay an expensive price for appointing any judges who happen to find a right to privacy in the Constitution.


48 posted on 04/11/2012 2:16:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: C19fan
If Mitt Romney wins the general election without major conservative support, why would he feel any obligation to please them once in office? He will have already shown that he doesn't need their support to win, so he would be free to follow his political instincts which are to the left of moderate. Why risk offending a bunch of moderates to appease conservatives who will never trust him anyway?

Romney would face no major conservative challenger in the 2016 primaries, no matter how poorly he governs. As incumbent President, Romney will hold the power in the Republican Party and will never allow the conservative movement a chance to take root. If you think the party establishment is hostile to conservatives in this election cycle, wait until Romney influences who holds the major positions in the party. Given the opportunity, Mitt would fulfill the long Romney-family dream of driving a stake through the heart of Goldwaterism/Reaganism.

49 posted on 04/11/2012 2:31:32 PM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: cotton1706

It has to be someone to the right of her. She’s near the cliff’s edge of leftism. I’d love to see another Thomas - Jewish of course!


50 posted on 04/11/2012 2:35:32 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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