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Bar Is High for Proving Hate Crime Case Against George Zimmerman, Says AG Eric Holder
ABC News ^ | April 11, 2012 | Jason Ryan

Posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Attorney General Eric Holder called the death of Trayvon Martin a “pain no parent should have to endure,” and said that the Justice Department has a high bar to cross to bring a federal hate crime case against George Zimmerman.

“For a federal hate crime, we have to prove the highest standard in the law it is something that was reckless, that was negligent,” Holder said at a news conference. “We have to show that there was a specific intent to do the crime with the requisite state of mind.”

Asked by ABC News’ Pierre Thomas about his reaction to the murder of Martin as a parent, Holder said, “People have reacted to this on a number of levels. I mean as a parent, I reacted to it [as] this is a pain that no parent should have to endure. The notion of having to bury a child is something that is, I think, in some ways for a parent the ultimate pain, so there was that reaction.”

“We also have, I think, a reaction that is based on issues we have faced in this nation over the years. It brings to the surface many of those issues, so there was that reaction as well,” Holder said....

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ericholder; hatecrime; obama; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
Not the country I was born in. Not at all.
1 posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But the Chief of Police in Baltimore says there is no evidence of hate crimes in the widely circulated beating of the white tourist by a mob of black ‘youths’.


2 posted on 04/11/2012 1:12:14 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, it looks like this election cycle is going to be all Trayvon, all the time.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 1:12:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate Eric Holder... is that a crime?


4 posted on 04/11/2012 1:15:08 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
US Posts Biggest March Budget Deficit In History.
5 posted on 04/11/2012 1:15:36 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: skeeter

And as my late father - and retired policeman - was wont to say in cases like this, “he probably couldn’t find Mae West in a phone booth...”


6 posted on 04/11/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

boohoo

its so hard to prove a thought crime... we should make it easier.... waaahhh


7 posted on 04/11/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What does that reptile know about the “highest standard in the law”?


8 posted on 04/11/2012 1:17:27 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Third Person
I hate Eric Holder... is that a crime?

Not necessarilty but it is racist.

9 posted on 04/11/2012 1:17:41 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1/21/2009)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The bar may be high but,particularly if Zimmerman's acquitted in FL,I'll wager every nickel I have that our Attorney Corporal will find a way.That is,if he's still working for the government when the time comes to decide.
10 posted on 04/11/2012 1:18:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Might be difficult but I’m sure that this shameful excuse for a government will find a way.


11 posted on 04/11/2012 1:19:28 PM PDT by Chainmail
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So Eric, what about border patrol agent Brian Terry?


12 posted on 04/11/2012 1:21:57 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go to hell, Holder. You dangerous pandering bastard.


13 posted on 04/11/2012 1:22:31 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: MarineDad

lol. By far the best version of that idiom I’ve ever heard...


14 posted on 04/11/2012 1:24:14 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Third Person

Ditto


15 posted on 04/11/2012 1:24:26 PM PDT by geege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And notice who was right on top of reporting it... ABC


16 posted on 04/11/2012 1:25:58 PM PDT by egfowler3 (Why do I even bother? No one's listening.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This just in: Zimmerman will be charged with violating the city noise ordinance by discharging a firearm within city limits!


17 posted on 04/11/2012 1:26:08 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure Reverend Eric Holder Wright will find a way to get over that bar if he doesn’t get the unfair trial result in Florida that he wants.


18 posted on 04/11/2012 1:26:27 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maggots on a rotting corpse compare favorably to Reichsnegro Holder.

They at least serve a useful biotic function.

19 posted on 04/11/2012 1:31:17 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Kevin in California

You don’t understand, it’s DIFFERENT when white parents have to bury their child.


20 posted on 04/11/2012 1:34:39 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: tomkat

Gonna show that cracker b**** Janet Reno what a real inferno looks like.


21 posted on 04/11/2012 1:39:15 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now, if Zimmerman had been killed in this incident, it would have been okay. It would have been par for the course. But when Trayvon Martin gets killed, it must be racism and civil rights violations.

As it is now, this society totally stinks. And I mean totally.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 1:41:47 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman is a Hispanic Democrat, shouldn’t be to hard to make the case.......Right Eric? /s


23 posted on 04/11/2012 1:43:36 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Hey, there are white men I, a white man, hate. Why can’t I hate a black man, if I have a reason?


24 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:13 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If only there was a night basketball program that could have kept this fine young man out of harms way...

Maybe Obozo will create a "No Thug left Behind" economic recovery program that can be tied in with Green Energy?

25 posted on 04/11/2012 1:47:46 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Third Person
"I hate Eric Holder... is that a crime?"

More like a national mindset!

26 posted on 04/11/2012 1:47:53 PM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: popdonnelly
Why can’t I hate a black man, if I have a reason?

Dunno. Ask a progressive, they have all the answers.

27 posted on 04/11/2012 1:48:22 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1/21/2009)
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28 posted on 04/11/2012 1:57:18 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While I have weighed in a number of times here (as a former Prosecutor) that I absolutely would charge Zimmerman with Voluntary and Involuntary Manslaughter, I see ZERO evidence of a hate crime. That won’t be charged.


29 posted on 04/11/2012 2:00:37 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: popdonnelly
Hey, there are white men I, a white man, hate. Why can’t I hate a black man, if I have a reason?

I knew someone in college who claimed, with a completely straight face, that "I'm not prejudiced, I hate everybody." Oh, and he could come up with at least a half dozen very un-PC names for any ethnic/racial/religious group you could name, all in about 3 seconds.

30 posted on 04/11/2012 2:07:08 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds to me that Holder is setting the stage for doing nothing - the standards are too high, etc., etc. Don’t forget, the Department of (Extremely Selective) Justice will have its hands full ignoring voter fraud, death threats by black groups, fighting Congressional subpoenas on Fast & Furious and eliminating all of the evidence it can of the F & F operation. Can’t jeopardize all of those important things just for one kid...and besides, Jesse and Al will make sure that this is a looooooong, hot summer in the inner cities.


31 posted on 04/11/2012 2:11:07 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: DBeers
ROTFLMAO......Too hilarious... I wouldnt be surprised to find that Holder charges Zimmerman with some environmental crime if it is shown that the expended round contained lead.
32 posted on 04/11/2012 3:06:38 PM PDT by centermass_socrates (We are jolly green giants walking the Earth, with guns!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm. Sounds like Holder is backing down.

Obama hit the tar baby and has a big problem.

Normally, about a year before the election, dems start ramping up the racial stuff to keep the black community all upset. That increases black voter turnout. So when Obama did the “my son would look like . . . “ schtick, that was the goal.

But it’s gotten out of hand. Now, if Zimmerman is not indicted, there is a serious possibility of race riots. Ask Lyndon Johnson and Hubert Humphrey how race riots help your election chances.

If the feds indict, they have an unwinnable case unless they can get venue transferred to Washington D.C., where the jurors will believe most anything.


33 posted on 04/11/2012 3:11:29 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“For a federal hate crime, we have to prove the highest standard in the law it is something that was reckless, that was negligent,” Holder said at a news conference. “We have to show that there was a specific intent to do the crime with the requisite state of mind.”

Translation: "We are manufacturing the evidence to prove that Zimmerman committed a hate crime!!"

34 posted on 04/11/2012 3:16:56 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, it looks like this election cycle is going to be all Trayvon, all the time.


Hmmmm ... if so, I imagine black support for Obama goes from 95% to 98%

But I wonder what will happen to his Hispanic support!
35 posted on 04/12/2012 4:37:37 AM PDT by zencycler
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