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George Zimmerman expected to be charged in Trayvon Martinís death (And was)
Yahoo ^ | April 11, 2012 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 04/11/2012 2:45:48 PM PDT by Arthurio

Official: Zimmerman is in custody and will be charged with 2nd-degree murder

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To: Arthurio

Black thugs are protected by this govt.

My respect for this nation is gone


151 posted on 04/11/2012 3:39:12 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Not in a million years.


152 posted on 04/11/2012 3:39:43 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Hahahahaha, they would riot in celebration... no win.


153 posted on 04/11/2012 3:40:30 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: Will88

Yes she did....could not believe my ears.

Absolute travesty.


154 posted on 04/11/2012 3:42:14 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Will88

Yes she did....could not believe my ears.

Absolute travesty.


155 posted on 04/11/2012 3:42:25 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Mechanicos
No way can they prove all of the elements of 2nd Degree Murder Beyond a Reasonable Doubt now and the Prosecutor knows it.

Yup...she deliberately over charged Zimmerman, knowing she won't get a conviction, but in the process being able to mollify the masses saying 'We tried him'. Totally political.
156 posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:05 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Cubs Fan

She is not running again per her own comments a few months ago.

Unless something comes out at trail not now known publicly, she has zero chance of getting a conviction on M2nd in any courtroom in the US. Perhaps this is a ploy to try to get him to plead to something less, negligent homocide perhaps.

Allegedly his dad was a magistrate so he should have some idea of how to guide him till they find a decent attorney for him.


157 posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:15 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: kiryandil
The taxpeasants should understand that they are all George Zimmerman.

First they came for the Zimmermans, but I didn't speak out...
158 posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:28 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Arthurio
I have a real hard time seeing 2nd Degree murder here (under depraved heart or intent to kill). Unless there's more that we don't know about, I can't see that.

My gut tells me this is an old fashion case of charge big, and convict or plea to the lesser charge (manslaughter).

159 posted on 04/11/2012 3:43:56 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Not to sound smarmy or sarcastic, but is that a legal interpretation or an opinion?

IANAL, but as evidenced on the many threads on this subject, folks like to speculate a lot and I’m not into that.

Thanks in advance.


160 posted on 04/11/2012 3:44:15 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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Welcome to Obama’s America...

Has anyone seen Al Sharpton??? do you think he looks like death sucking on a life saver??? he does not appear healthy at all..

I think we should all fear for our future...it does not look good...

161 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:36 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: FReepers


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162 posted on 04/11/2012 3:46:52 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: qaz123

>>can’t speak for how things go in florida, but in georgia, all felonies go to grand jury.<<

From what I understand from the millions of legal “analysis” who have been weighing in on this from Day 0, FLA only requires a Grand Jury for capital cases.

So long as the Death Penalty is off the table, she can proceed without the GJ.

Or that is my understanding of it...


163 posted on 04/11/2012 3:47:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Arthurio

164 posted on 04/11/2012 3:47:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Eleutheria5

Defense lawyers are EXPENSIVE. If he can’t afford them, he’ll most likely have no choice but to plead guilty to a lesser charge.


165 posted on 04/11/2012 3:47:23 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: FryingPan101
I don’t know. It didn’t sound favorable to Zimmerman. Hannity say he expects to be called to testify.

No wonder his lawyers quit.

166 posted on 04/11/2012 3:48:08 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Arthurio

This was a freak show straight out of an African kangaroo court. I wonder if she received permission from the parents, or was encouraged, to use the trademark “Justice for Trayvon” phrase.


167 posted on 04/11/2012 3:48:45 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: doug from upland

Noway. They will convict. Just as sure as I knew this pathetic special prosecutor was definitely going to pander and file charges, I know a jury will convict.


168 posted on 04/11/2012 3:51:54 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The repeated photo run by our biased media of a prepubescent 12 yo when the “victim” is actually a 17 year old wearing a hoodie. Why not show the actual image that Zimmerman saw?

Some say Zimmerman is Jewish or Hispanic, but yet he is portrayed by the media as a typical racist low life sacrificial Caucasian Christian. If he even had a modest support group they’d be portrayed as white supremacists or KKK.

White Euros need to understand that they will have nothing unless they start demanding totally equal justice on such cases, and not accept being categorized as racist. Either that or they will be roasted on the political fires as criminals unless they start supporting each other.


169 posted on 04/11/2012 3:51:54 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Arthurio
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html


170 posted on 04/11/2012 3:52:23 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: newzjunkey
He has two strikes against him: male and white latino.

He doesn't listen to his lawyers. Strike three.

171 posted on 04/11/2012 3:52:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Vaquero; stylecouncilor

PeeWee’s greatest role.


172 posted on 04/11/2012 3:52:54 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

[ What political office do you suppose this “lady” is pursuing? ]

i have no doubt that seeking higher office is her motivation.


173 posted on 04/11/2012 3:53:23 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Red in Blue PA
Black thugs are protected by this govt. My respect for this nation is gone

I totally concur.

Not only blacks are protected at many levels, affirmative action etc, but millions of illegal aliens, including the hundreds of thousands of illegals running throughout the streets of Florida, are protected. All this while Corey lectured Americans about justice.

Watching Corey's sickening speech, talk about law and justice, was really beyond belief.

I agree, this country is done.

174 posted on 04/11/2012 3:54:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Darren McCarty

This prosecutor is very well respected in the world of law enforcement. She has an excellent record. You and I both know she knows alot we do not know. She took her time in bringing charges for a good reason. She had to know she had everything she needed to prove the charges she was bringing. We need to wait and see what evidence she has.


175 posted on 04/11/2012 3:57:11 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Arthurio

Look. Here’s the deal. I really don’t have a dog in this hunt. If there really is evidence that damns Zimmerman, he can fry. If there isn’t, well, .... in this political climate, that is likely to be ignored. However, the public will get wind of any additional evidence that’s there.


176 posted on 04/11/2012 3:58:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Darren McCarty

I should have said though, you may be right. She may offer a plea deal for aggravated manslaughter.


177 posted on 04/11/2012 3:59:00 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: shadeaud

When it comes to race in America, the Hispanic community comes in at least second to the black community.. they are no match...


178 posted on 04/11/2012 3:59:13 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: GnL
I’m waiting for the hispanic community to start defending their man. I haven’t heard a peep.

With a name like George Zimmerman, you won't.

179 posted on 04/11/2012 3:59:19 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: GRRRRR

[ She says that Seminole COunty WILL be the trial venue, in spite of all the jury tampering done by the media and race baters... ]

Isn’t that up to the judge?


180 posted on 04/11/2012 4:03:06 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Timber Rattler

Who’s the guy on the left?


181 posted on 04/11/2012 4:04:52 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Enterprise
From what it sounds like here, Corey could be a future Attorney General candidate.

I agree. She should give a status update and then decline comment.

182 posted on 04/11/2012 4:06:09 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: KansasGirl

It is up to her unless his defense atty asks for a change of venue then it is up to the judge whether to grant it or not.


183 posted on 04/11/2012 4:07:04 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Arthurio
NOTE TO TOURISTS: if you wife or children are attacked while visiting Florida; make sure they don't resist. You could be charged with MURDER if you try to defend them.

It might be better to vacation somewhere a little bit safer...

184 posted on 04/11/2012 4:07:15 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: DallasSun; Darren McCarty
This prosecutor is very well respected in the world of law enforcement.

I don't give a damn about law enforcement constantly patting each other on the backs, and complementing each other, as our streets are crawling with millions of illegal aliens, creating epic crime and fraud, as they routinely release real violent criminals out into the streets, supply Mexican gangs with weapons, etc., etc..

Special prosecutor Angela Corey is a disgusting arrogant individual, who was gleeful for the face time, as she spoke to the nation like they were 3rd grade children. This woman is clearly more interested in her career, bending to political pressure and appeasing the black racist, than justice.

This was one of the most unbelievable news conferences I have ever witnessed.

185 posted on 04/11/2012 4:07:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Never on my watch

“The press conference is going on and this woman is sooo proud of her self. She is reveling in the event. Very sick!”

I saw the same thing. Yet this gutless female worm refuses to call a grand jury to prosecute the racist black panthers who are bellowing for a lynching. We have no leadership in Florida. Whatta bitch.

She has emboldened the black racists in Florida. If Florida burns in race riots, I hope the people call for a grand jury to indict her for sedition and murder.


186 posted on 04/11/2012 4:10:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: DallasSun

Right, again it’s a judge who decides in the end.

And you can stuff that “she’s respected” crap. So we heard about Nifong.

That smarmy “Oscar” speech along with her admitting to praying with Martin’s parents TWO weeks ago when she got the case tells me she has NADA. Nothing more than we know.
Which is what? Not much.


187 posted on 04/11/2012 4:10:27 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: GRRRRR
She says that Seminole COunty WILL be the trial venue, in spite of all the jury tampering done by the media and race baters...

Unless a judge says otherwise. If I'm Zimmerman, I want this in the panhandle outside of Gadsden County.

188 posted on 04/11/2012 4:11:05 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: doug from upland

That man is amazing. Do you know where that footage is from?


189 posted on 04/11/2012 4:12:15 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Arthurio

I’ve said all along, where is the justice for George Zimmerman? This is not going to end well.


190 posted on 04/11/2012 4:12:29 PM PDT by gramho12
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To: apoliticalone

Id like to know how many blacks were murdered by other blacks in the last few weeks, ya know, the ones that the media never discusses or gives a damn about. What I have learned this past month, if your black and you murder a white person, its Ok..if your black and you murder another black person, its Ok too..sad that is what I have had to learn this past month but its true


191 posted on 04/11/2012 4:12:52 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Momaw Nadon
If Zimmerman is charged with 2nd-degree murder, can a jury still decide to find him guilty of a lesser charge such as manslaughter?

In many states and jurisdictions, yes.

192 posted on 04/11/2012 4:12:52 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Will88

I heard her say it twice and also the cutesie little “sweet parents” So much for a tough minded prosecutor. What a sorry display of unprofessionalism, not to mention getting to the point without all CYA crapola in the first several minutes.


193 posted on 04/11/2012 4:13:54 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: sergeantdave

The thing is, do this stupid politicans not realize that they will riot either way? If Zimmerman is fond not guilty they will riot, if he is convicted they will riot as well.


194 posted on 04/11/2012 4:15:37 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: sergeantdave

I am still waiting for charges to be filed against the black panthers re: the bounty. That was so blatant. Why no charges?


195 posted on 04/11/2012 4:15:40 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: SZonian

That is my interpretation of the law, and it’s not a controversial one (I am a lawyer, but not a Florida lawyer).

Zimmerman clearly committed an act that, in the absence of some legal justification, constitutes second-degree murder in Florida. The only issue in the case, then, is whether Zimmerman was legally justified. That’s something that has been debated endlessly, and will continue to be debated some more. But what is not up for debate is whether, in the absence of justification (e.g., self-defense), Zimmerman’s act satisfies the remaining elements of murder.


196 posted on 04/11/2012 4:15:40 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t know that black thugs are protected, but I do question re-writing self-defense laws just because Trayvon Martin got shot.

Anyway, the outcome of this trial is irrelevant, since people will still carry guns and they will still protect themselves. People are not stupid. They do not want to be happy victims. So unless the government is going to put a cop on every corner, we will keep carrying.


197 posted on 04/11/2012 4:18:12 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

That goodness not all lawyers agree with you. Mark Levin, for example. I’d take his opinion over yours any day.


198 posted on 04/11/2012 4:19:01 PM PDT by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: snarkytart

She is a non apologetic Christian and prays alot from what I understand. Remember, she represents the victim and was doing so two weeks ago when she met the parents before the charges were pressed. And..she knows alot we do not know. We will just have to wait and see.....btw....I like your screen name.


199 posted on 04/11/2012 4:19:47 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun
This prosecutor is very well respected in the world of law enforcement.

Not a big positive with me, but I'll fully admit a pro-defense bias (not strictly to this case). The favorite prosecutors with law enforcement around here are those who overcharge and then plea to a felony. (Or charge the felony and plea to high misdemeanor.)

You and I both know she knows alot we do not know. She took her time in bringing charges for a good reason. She had to know she had everything she needed to prove the charges she was bringing. We need to wait and see what evidence she has.

That's why I qualified my statement. I HOPE she's charging based on evidence we don't know. I'm not going to say she is or isn't until we see this in trial.

200 posted on 04/11/2012 4:20:12 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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