Skip to comments.Obama or Romney: The republic fails either way (Santorum is out)
Posted on 04/11/2012 5:21:42 PM PDT by koinonia
Alan Keyes wrote: As I anticipated, the elitist machinations of the sham party system are predictably moving America toward another false choice between an avowed socialist Democrat and a prevaricating socialist Republican. Marco Rubios endorsement of Mitt Romney kicks off an orchestrated wavelet of influential endorsements, signaling an end to the sham competition that culminated in a not very credible dramatic face-off between Romney and one of his 2008 cheerleaders, Rick Santorum...
The lesser evil approach guarantees the triumph of wrong. So in choosing between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama we are like the cornered target of the hit man who says, We can do this the easy way or the hard way. The fatal outcome is inevitable in either case. Obamas way takes us to domineering socialism along a path that moves more openly and harshly against right, conscience and property. Romneys way takes us to domineering socialism along a path that reserves the harsher methods, preferring to use deception and prevarication so that we go more gently into the night...
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Wouldn’t it be easier to help Newt win in the remaining 20 primary states than to form a 3rd party? If Romney loses 54% of the upcoming delegates in the next 20 states then he doesn’t get the magic 1,144 number to secure the nomination. This thing isn’t over unless the voters decide it’s over.
Succinctly put. And the epitaph of the Republican party.
It may be impossible for a third party to win this one but the stage will be set for 2016. I'm all ears!
If we accept Alan Keyes premise that the nation will fail regardless with mittens or zero, doing things such as forming a third party would be less than useless.
Some may want to stay and fight in a civil war. Others will try to hunker down in some corner of the US for a while. If you really believe that the republic is lost as Keyes does, the only thing to on a long term basis is to escape the US.
I do not accept the meme that a mitt regime would be as bad as zero, and I could see myself fighting for liberty under these circumstances. If mitt leans too far from the Left, he would face a serious conservative primary challenger. If it’s zero, resistance will be futile, and I believe that many of us will seriously consider leaving the US.
I’ve been posting that on earlier threads all day to disappointed Santorum people, but they all seem to want to give up and throw in with Romney instead. Especially the ones from Pennsylvania. What am I missing here? Why would they even consider that with a conservative still in the race at the point you described?
Romney 2012. That’s all I need to remember when I vote in November, like it or not.
That is, Romney is only the "2012 nominee" in the MSM media and in their reporting at this time. He is NEITHER the DE-JURE NOR DE-FACTO NOMINEE because a) additional primary elections by State GOP Parties and supervised by independent states' Secretaries of State have not taken place, b) no names have been placed in nomination, c) no nomination vote has taken place, either a roll call or by acclimation, d) his (the successful nominee's) official certification by Party officials has not taken place.
Therefore, BOUND BY THE RULES OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE (and with the presence of at least two other candidates actively in competition, i.e. Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul), if the RNC does anything that violates their neutrality in the primary process between now and nomination, particularly with active candidates on the field, this could be a major violation of RNC rules and perhaps even election law in some states. What I am saying is, if there is incontrovertible evidence of the RNC at this stage helping the Romney campaign directly or indirectly and exclusively, they could be in violation of laws or statutes. A Conservative video sting could be conducted, "James O'Keefe"-style, IMNO. Of course it is a pretty foregone conclusion that Bishop Romney will be the nominee, but he is not and the RNC MUST adhere to neutrality.
I SO want to get these handmade b*stards in the RINO/GOP-e on this technicality (as we know what they are in the Eisenhower Building), catch them red-handed....so, anybody else from the former Santorum or current Gingrich campaigns in with me on this brainstorm? There has to be a way. A real crap storm could be stirred.
I don’t think that the Santorum campaign will be “in”. He’s recovering..and I believe he wants to leave on a good note.
But there is proof of what you say in my home state of WI..
Paul Ryan handing out free subs next to Romnuts before the primary...was sickening. And it should be a prime example of what you speak, Tokyo.
I despise the RNC. If more people knew of their manipulation and trickery, it would be a good thing!
I am will to joing with Newt or (former) Rick or even Ron supporters on this one as a last ditch anti-Romney effort.
Also, a general request:
If you are Freeper who works within the RNC or State GOP Organization in an official capacity and has conservative sympathies and was NOT a supporter of Romney, or you know someone trustworthy who fits this bill, please do privately, offline "Freepmail" me, I would like to chat.
Either way, machts nicht.
For believers, we also have the consolation and powerhouse of prayer. In the end evil cannot not win the war, but that does not mean evil will not win some battles.
What Keyes wrote is objectively true, regardless of his popularity or not. Even a "dog catcher" can see the sham that is taking place at the top ;-) At any rate, corruption, power, money, mass media... not God, family, principle and our country, are what put the candidates into office. And who pays, and continues to pay... we do. God help us!
Anything is possible, but looking at the primaries with any hope at this point is difficult because Romney only needs a small percentage from here on out to arrive at the 1144. Even the conservative states have given him 30% of their votes and now that Santorum is out and Gingrich is out of compaign money there is little to do in the Republican party.
If you hear about stage being set, please let me be the first to know! God bless...
The GOP sold out America. They never wanted a real conservative because that meant they would have had to get off their lazy asses and do some work.
Mitt,Rick or even Newt werent the best examples of the best and brightest. Newt was the smartest of the three but had so much baggage he was doomed from the start.
The GOP is the party of cowards and bed-wetters whose only concern is the safe keeping of their comfy jobs and hugh paychecks. Gone are the real men and women in the party who put the country first instead of their own wealth.
I am done with them.
“Some Tea Party leaders/members have said that they do not like Romney but they are voting for him anyway... “
What’s really sad is that some of them supported Romney in the PRIMARIES. I think a good number of “moderates” have infiltrated the Tea Party.
And, call me crazy, but I fear we could have Obama as president even longer than 4 more years. He seems to get away with ignoring the Constitution, or the Courts, when they told him to lift the oil drilling ban, and he refused, and he legislates from the White House. Where are the checks and balances?
You have nailed it!
Not true, he needs about 46% of the delegates in the remaining 20 states. That's not a small amount. So it's certainly within the realm of possibility that his support gets knocked a little further down to that level from where it is now. He's only won over 50% of the popular vote in 3 out of 30 states where everyone was on the ballot so far.