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Allen West versus the Communists - A new adventure in creative editing.
Human Events ^ | 04/11/2012 | John Hayward

Posted on 04/11/2012 6:02:32 PM PDT by neverdem

Oh, my gosh, did you hear that Rep. Allen West claims there are seventy or eighty card-carrying members of the Communist Party serving as Democrats in Congress? The House Un-American Activities Committee must be re-opening for business!

That’s the headline you’ll see all over the left side of the blogosphere. And it’s got to be true, because they’ve got video! Here’s a clip of West (R-FL) speaking at a town hall meeting in Jensen Beach on Tuesday:

Except all of these video clips are very carefully edited to cut out the next thing West said. Here is the quote in full, with the omitted part presented in boldface:

It’s a good question. I believe there’s about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party who are members of the Communist Party. It’s called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

He is very clearly not saying he thinks there are eighty secret Commies working as moles in the Democrat Party. He’s insulting the Congressional Progressive Caucus by saying they’re functionally equivalent to the Communist Party. The Caucus has 76 members, so West guessed a bit high when he rattled the number off the top of his head.

Now, that’s a provocative jibe, and anyone sympathetic to the Congressional Progressive Caucus is perfectly entitled to be duly provoked, but portraying West as seriously suggesting Boris and Natasha lurk in the House cloak room, hatching plots against Moose and Squirrel, is silly and disingenuous. One can chastise West for noodling the CPC in this manner without editing his remarks to make him sound like a wild-eyed disciple of Joe McCarthy.

An alternative brand of misreporting about West’s town hall meeting holds that he claims to have “heard” there are 80 dirty Commies running around Capitol Hill, insinuating that the Congressman is a credulous dimwit who reflexively believes and repeats such outlandish allegations.

The CBS news affiliate in Miami manages to misrepresent the Congressman - complete with the headline “Rep. Allen West: 80 Communist Party Members in U.S. House” - even though they included the full transcript of West’s remarks, and a further statement from his office, in the body of their article:

It wasn’t quite Joseph McCarthy waving around papers claiming to know of communists in the federal government, but according to the Palm Beach Post, Congressman Allen West claims he “has heard” there are communists in the House of Representatives.

According to the Post, West was talking to Jensen Beach voters this week when he said President Barack Obama was “scared” to have a discussion with him.

West then said that “he’s heard” up to 80 members of the U.S. House of Representatives are Communist Party members, but declined to give the names of any of the alleged members, according to the Post.

…and in the very next paragraphs, the CBS article relates the question West was asked at his town hall meeting (“What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card-carrying Marxists or International Socialists?”) and his full reply, which does not include West saying he’s “heard” any such scurrilous rumors. And he most certainly did name them! He said he was talking about the Congressional Progressive Caucus, although he didn’t run through all 76 individual names.

West isn’t splitting any hairs about his meaning, as a follow-up statement from his office made clear:

The Congressman was referring to the 76 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The Communist Party has publicly referred to the Progressive Caucus as its allies. The Progressive Caucus speaks for itself. These individuals certainly aren’t proponents of free markets or individual economic freedom.

The CBS Miami post also included this statement, although it’s written in a manner that suggests the full statement was inserted later, after the writer took a stab at paraphrasing it. They nevertheless went with the “Rep. Allen West: 80 Communist Party Members in U.S. House” headline.

Whatever trouble this little dust-up might cause Rep. West, it’s worth it, because the responses from the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the Communist Party USA are hilarious. First up, the Progressive Caucus:

CBSMiami reached out to Co-Chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, Representative Raul Grijalva for their comments on the issue.

Rep. Raul Grijalva’s office sad the CPC declined to comment on the record, but did say in an email that Politifact has debunked everything West was referring to last year.

“Just because you are a member of the Progressive Caucus does not mean you are a socialist,” Politifact said in September 2011.

Well, now, hang on a moment there, Rep. Grijalva. West didn’t say you guys were like socialists. He compared you to communists. Are you saying that’s the same thing? Could you folks over at the CPC whip up a little essay on the precise differences between “progressives,” “socialists,” and “communists” to clear up the confusion?

Even more entertaining is the angry reaction of the actual Communist Party USA, which apparently remains large enough to have both a chairman and multiple vice-chairmen, according to this report in Politico:

“I just think it’s an absurd way to cast a shadow over his colleagues. It’s kind of a sad ploy,” Libero Della Piana, a vice-chairman of the national Communist Party, said of the Florida Republican’s charge that about 80 House Democrats were members of the radical party.

“It’s just guilt by association taken to an extreme,” he told POLITICO. He also said there are no members of Congress who are members of the Communist Party – not even avowed socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Aha! So the Communists think socialists are not the same thing as communists! Could someone forward Rep. Grijalva’s email address to Comrade Vice Chairman Della Piana, so they could collaborate on that white paper I requested?

On second thought, maybe that’s not such a good idea, because Della Piana kept talking, and things started to get really confusing:

Della Piana also said that using the term “communist” as slander ran counter to democratic principles.

“We are supposed to live in a political democracy,” he said. “I didn’t know that being a Communist in Congress was off-limits or out of bounds. There aren’t any now and if there were in the future does that mean that the voters don’t have a say? Can’t choose a Communist to be in Congress?”

In fact, charges from the tea party that President Barack Obama and other Democrats were enacting “socialist” policies has led to increased interest in socialism, Della Piana said.

“I think a lot of Americans were opened up the idea of socialism because of the tea party’s attack on it,” he said. “I think they put it back on the agenda. By attacking every policy initiative of the president as socialism, they put it back in the public debate… it wasn’t exactly something the average American was talking about before that.”

So now he’s saying socialism is basically what the Communist Party USA is all about, or at least they view it as an appetizer to the main totalitarian course they offer. And it should be totally cool for an out-and-proud Communist to serve in Congress, but it’s also a “slander” to insinuate that a sitting member of Congress might have Communist sympathies. I’m sure this was probably all covered in more detail at an Occupy Wall Street meeting.

The comedy of the situation comes from the tortured maze of leftist taxonomy, which is made shadowy and complex by their constant need to lie about what they really believe, sometimes even to themselves. Socialism is super awesome… until nervous independents start thinking that’s what Democrat Party orthodoxy boils down to. They can’t call themselves “liberals” any more, because that sends voters fleeing into the streets. They’re pretty sure they’re not “communists,” even though very few rank-and-file American leftists understand what communism or Marxism really are… or, more importantly, why they are always and invariably murderous failures.

And they’re absolutely certain they despise “fascism,” even though few of them have a clue what that really means, how it differs from Nazism, or how it was sold to its original, and quite enthusiastic, consumers.

TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: allenwest; change; commies; communism; communistparty; communistpartyusa; communists; cpusa; obama; progressivecaucus; reds; transformation
Tonight NBC's Brian Williams was aghast making an allusion to the "dark days of McCarthyism," IIRC. Both John Kerry in 2004 and Obama in 2008 were endorsed by the Communist Party USA.
1 posted on 04/11/2012 6:02:41 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

They practices this with the Trayvon Martin incident, and now it’s a day-to-day tactic.

2 posted on 04/11/2012 6:14:24 PM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! ABO! ABO!)
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To: neverdem
“I didn’t know that being a Communist in Congress was off-limits or out of bounds. There aren’t any now and if there were in the future does that mean that the voters don’t have a say? Can’t choose a Communist to be in Congress?”

In a number of states, including Illinois, being a communist not only disqualifies candidates. It disqualifies political parties. Or, it is supposed to anyhow.

From the Illinois Code:

ARTICLE 7. THE MAKING OF NOMINATIONS BY POLITICAL PARTIES 10 ILCS 5/7-2) (from Ch. 46, par. 7-2) Sec. 7-2.


A political party, which at the municipal election in any other municipality or political subdivision, (except townships and school districts), for municipal or other officers therein then next preceding a primary, cast more than 5 per cent of the entire vote cast in such municipality or political subdivision, is hereby declared to be a political party within the meaning of this Article, within said municipality or political subdivision, and shall nominate all municipal or other officers therein under the provisions hereof to the extent and in the cases provided in section 7--1.

Provided, that no political organization or group shall be qualified as a political party hereunder, or given a place on a ballot, which organization or group is associated, directly or indirectly, with Communist, Fascist, Nazi or other un-American principles and engages in activities or propaganda designed to teach subservience to the political principles and ideals of foreign nations or the overthrow by violence of the established constitutional form of government of the United States and the State of Illinois. (Source: Laws 1943, vol. 2, p. 1.)

(10 ILCS 5/7-10.1) (from Ch. 46, par. 7-10.1)
Sec. 7-10.1. Each petition or certificate of nomination shall include as a part thereof, a statement for each of the candidates filing, or in whose behalf the petition or certificate of nomination is filed, said statement shall be subscribed and sworn to by such candidate or nominee before some officer authorized to take acknowledgment of deeds in this State and shall be in substantially the following form:

United States of America

State of Illinois

I, .... do swear that I am a citizen of the United States and the State of Illinois, that I am not affiliated directly or indirectly with any communist organization or any communist front organization, or any foreign political agency, party, organization or government which advocates the overthrow of constitutional government by force or other means not permitted under the Constitution of the United States or the constitution of this State; that I do not directly or indirectly teach or advocate the overthrow of the government of the United States or of this State or any unlawful change in the form of the governments thereof by force or any unlawful means.


Subscribed and sworn to by me on (insert date).


(Notary Public)
My commission expires: .....

(Source: P.A. 91-357, eff. 7-29-99.)

3 posted on 04/11/2012 6:27:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: neverdem

“It wasn’t quite Joseph McCarthy waving around papers claiming to know of communists in the federal government, but according to the Palm Beach Post, Congressman Allen West claims he “has heard” there are communists in the House of Representatives”.

But McCarthy was right, wasn’t he. He was marginalized by ridicule, a favorite communist tactic, by the media, and Saul Alinsky. We have one opportunity to get this commie SOB out of the White House, better make it count.

4 posted on 04/11/2012 6:28:06 PM PDT by derSchurfer (When the Rule of Law is ignored good citizens will take the law into their own hands.)
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To: neverdem

I’m loving the hysteria from the progressives and Communists this has caused. West basically said the emperor is wearing no clothes at all — that progressives are the functional equivalent of Communists. And now they are all screaming their heads off! PERFECT!

5 posted on 04/11/2012 6:45:22 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: neverdem; All

This Human Events article references the CBS Miami tv station. They aren’t alone: ALL OF THE MIAMI tv stations are lefist.

I’ve said for a long time: national AND LOCAL media need to be held accountable for liberal bias.

6 posted on 04/11/2012 6:55:57 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: neverdem

Pssst... they are tar and feathering him in advance. (just in case he gets the VP nod from Mitt)

7 posted on 04/11/2012 7:08:14 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: neverdem


8 posted on 04/11/2012 7:09:38 PM PDT by know-the-law
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To: neverdem

A Democrat congressman called Republicans “NAZIs” on the floor of the house in the 1990s and no one blinked an eye in the media.

Many Communists only drop their guard and admit their aims when they believe they are surrounded by fellow travelers.

Since the Commie-sympathizing press REFUSES to cover the Communist financing of Occupy litter-ature, Bush=War Criminal litter-ature, and other astroturf protest movements, we cannot rely on the media to admit that there are ANY Communists in America today. Certainly none that mean to overthrow our Constitutional form of government.

Would Dan Rather, CNN, ABC, NBC, Boston Globe, LA Times, Time Magazine, NY Times et al LIE?!!!

Yes. They lie like Stalinists all the time and have been caught at it.

9 posted on 04/11/2012 7:33:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: neverdem
The only problem I have with West's statement is that he forgot to mention that we have one in the White House, as well.
10 posted on 04/11/2012 7:35:38 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: neverdem

Have to go to media outside the contry

11 posted on 04/11/2012 7:59:59 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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To: neverdem

West could have been a real asset to the Pubbie ticket.

Too bad that he obliterated his chances by running his mouth!

12 posted on 04/11/2012 8:42:00 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: derSchurfer

Well, thank goodness! McCarthy was before my time (baby), but my thoughts are that if he’d been allowed to finish what he started, we wouldn’t be having this problem now.
Free Speech is one thing. Allowing someone to destroy our country with malice aforethought is something quite different.
Imho, we need to deport these people to some “paradise” like North Korea. I will *happy* to contribute to their passage.

Go Lt Col West!

13 posted on 04/11/2012 8:46:48 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: Noob1999

His stock has just risen in my book!
The White House
The Justice Department
The State Department
Most Universities
Are chock full of Communists!
Its time to cut the crap and tell people that the enemy is in the gates.
Tail Gunner Joe was correct and it is as true now as it was then.
Our nation needs an enema, purge the Communists!

14 posted on 04/11/2012 8:52:41 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: neverdem
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"This president can be a transformative leader (he has that potential in my view), but only if he embraces and fights for a transformative agenda."--Sam Webb, Chairman Communist Party USA

Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:

"We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"
--B.H.Obama, 2008

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Yahoo search results for "Fundamentally Transforming The United States Of America":

15 posted on 04/11/2012 10:03:40 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page:
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To: neverdem

O my Gosh... All of a sudden anticapitalist progressives, communists and liberals are against “guilt by association”... and McCarthyism... all the while Zero favors his political donors...

How about that!? (sarc off)

18 posted on 04/12/2012 9:57:57 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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