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Notice: Free Republic has been in full rebellion mode since 2008 and will remain so for the duration
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | April 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/11/2012 8:04:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Notice: Free Republic has been in full rebellion mode since 2008 and will remain in full rebellion mode for the duration!

No more Doles!! No more McCains!! No more RINOS!!

NO ROMNEY!!

Those who cannot stomach rebellion might as well start looking for a new home on the net!!

Those who have ignored my hundreds of posts on this crucial issue or who have doubted me these last three or four years might as well get used to it. FR will never support the abortionist, homosexualist, socialist, mandate loving, constitution trampling liar Mitt Romney.

In case you haven't noticed, a TEA Party rebellion is on and Free Republic signed on years ago. There is no turning back. No more crap from the GOP-e!! They've screwed us for the last time!! Karl Rove and Mitt Romney, et al, loathe conservatism and loathe the tea party and took it upon themselves to use their money and connections to destroy nearly every one of our conservative tea party candidates while pushing their big government RINOS. That makes them the enemy. I will not reward that betrayal by giving them my support or my vote.

FR is and will remain a pro-life, pro-limited government conservative site!!

We are beholden to NO ONE!! We bow to no kings!! We bow to NO RINOS!!

I'd rather fight and die like a man than bend over and be screwed by a RINO!! I refuse to kiss Karl Rove or Mitt Romney's rings!! They can kiss my rosy red ass instead!!

FUMR!! FUGOP!!

Long live the rebellion!!

Hope my message is clear.


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To: Jim Robinson
I’d be with Newt in a heartbeat if he can pull it off. He’s the best and most experienced conservative for the job of all running.

We won't know if it can happen if we don't try to make it happen.

I'm praying that we in little Delaware can make it happen, and send a nice rebellious message to the GOP.

There's plenty of Freepers left in the states that have not voted.

We would miss a tremendous opportunity to influence the course of events if we just focus now on November, when we can focus energy on August first.

401 posted on 04/11/2012 10:39:17 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: onyx

Writing in Sarah Palin.

No Qualms.

Chips fall where they may. I’ve been around for awhile, paid taxes and worked all my life.

God will ultimately sort it all out. I’m good with voting conscience.

I won’t condemn brothers and sisters who in good conscience go elsewhere, but that’s where I’m at.


402 posted on 04/11/2012 10:39:39 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: cableguymn

The system is broken.

Time to take it back.

That starts at the local level.


403 posted on 04/11/2012 10:39:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: exit82
That is exactly what we need right now.

Then why did he get so few votes in the primaries? I like Newt, and I'd be glad to see him as our nomineee, but apparently, millions of GOP voters didn't see it that way.

404 posted on 04/11/2012 10:39:53 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour)
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To: Gay State Conservative
And with that I'm fully expecting to be banned...permanently.If that happens I bid you all farewell.

I'll join you. I find the hypocracy here insane. A bit of the twilight zone. Four years ago, people were villified for pointing out McAmnesty's liberal stances. Probably many were banned. Now, many are pretending that never happened.

How can so many intelligent people ignore the reality of what really happened 4 years ago?

I find the stance of "No RINOs" admirable. But the hypocracy of pretending that has always been the case - that not so much. I would respect honesty more.
405 posted on 04/11/2012 10:39:53 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: navydad

That all you got?

I learned my lesson long ago. People lacking principle and integrity, such as those willing to abandon their claimed conservatism, need be mocked often and loudly. It is no sign of maturity to vote liberal.

Deal with it.


406 posted on 04/11/2012 10:40:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Artcore

“Haven’t you heard? This type of thought process makes you a “Romneybot” or worse, a “Romneywhore” /sarc”
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Sound like Libs don’t they, with all the name-calling?


407 posted on 04/11/2012 10:40:23 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Big Horn

4 more years comes with the end of the US as we know it.


I am not even 40.. but..

Given the stories my grandfather told me, the stories my great grandfather told me, the history I have read..

I am ready for the end of the US as I know it.

It is time to return to what this great country was based on. We have strayed so far from what our founders intended I don’t think any of them would recognize it any more.


408 posted on 04/11/2012 10:40:29 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“We are beholden to NO ONE!! We bow to no kings!! We bow to NO RINOS!! “

ROCK ON BROTHER!!! Preach it!! Can I get a witness here!!

Consevatives we got to do our part if it means all of us showing outside the convention with millions of us shouting stomping the ground chanting NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! in unison. We have got to get out the vote if we are going to turn this thing around some way. Right now is a good time to come together and pray for God to deliver US and call, write, and emial everyone we can think of. If we don’t show up it will be “Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss” and our nation is screwed in the worst way.

We got to Stop B.O.-The-ZerO!!!

New Slogan: Fight the BTR!!!(Barry’s Tyrannical Regime)
Stop America from becoming the next Euro-Disney-Socialist-Wasteland!


409 posted on 04/11/2012 10:40:57 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Norm Lenhart

Very well said, Norm.


410 posted on 04/11/2012 10:41:22 PM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.” Abraham Lincoln

Lemme see now, in order that would be RINOs, Democrats, and the owners of US Treasury Bonds when they try to cash them in.

BTW, what has Romney EVER done to reduce the size of ANY Government?


411 posted on 04/11/2012 10:42:18 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: PMAS

Punt. Or rebellion. Voting for a known abortionist/socialist liar is definitely not an option.

Turnout on election day and vote for every conservative on your ballot. Take it back through local, state and congressional offices. Be sure to tell every GOPer you can why you reject Romney and why you no longer support the RINO GOP.

Rebellion starts locally.


412 posted on 04/11/2012 10:43:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: navydad

“Haven’t you heard? This type of thought process makes you a “Romneybot” or worse, a “Romneywhore” /sarc”
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Sound like Libs don’t they, with all the name-calling?_________________________________________________________

Indeed!

It really is sad. Truth is, we’re all on the same team here, but this issue (which is a big one!) could fracture us badly.


413 posted on 04/11/2012 10:43:40 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: WildHighlander57

(move the “w”,”i” and letters below over to the “r” to get the slogan “write-in” going down)


414 posted on 04/11/2012 10:43:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: FryingPan101

“Oh man. I hate this, Jim. It’s your house and you don’t have to have anyone in it if you don’t want. And you can clean house anytime and as often as you think you should.

I’m afraid I’m a candidate for eviction. I’ll be voting for Romney and insisting on a Conservative Veep. I’ll vote for every Conservative I can from dog catcher up. Realistically, it’s the best I can do. I believe Romney can win. I’ll show myself the door. Thanks for the years. :).”
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I don’t think Jim will stoop that low. He’s a good man. Don’t leave.


415 posted on 04/11/2012 10:46:10 PM PDT by navydad
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To: PMAS
Jim, If Romney is the actual nominee, what is the alternative ?
I've got a question for you...
What alternatives can you think of?
Voting for everybody on the ticket except for POTUS?
Write in a candidate.
Don't vote at all?

Surely you have to have some ideas of your own.
Or do you go through life always expecting others to do your thinking for you?

416 posted on 04/11/2012 10:46:43 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: vmivol00
If I vote for XYZ. My vote is counted for XYZ...not Obama, and not Romney. As much as you may to pretend that elections are mutually exclusive events (big words alert), they are not.

Nonsense. We are faced with a binary choice of 0bama in or 0bama out. A vote for a write-in or fringe candidate does absolutely nothing to harm 0bama's chance of re-election. You might as well skip the presidential preference vote if you aren't going to support the only viable challenger to 0bama. (At this point there is no question that the viable challenger will be the GOP nominee.) A vote for the nominee cancels a vote for 0bama. A vote for a fringe candidate is a mere protest, which in the grand scheme works against the GOP nominee and in 0bama's favor (assuming your natural tendency would NOT be to favor 0bama). Pretend all you want, but you are aiding 0bama by voting for anyone other than his most serious challenger.
417 posted on 04/11/2012 10:46:48 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“People who won’t stand for anything, will fall for everything.” Unknown


418 posted on 04/11/2012 10:47:02 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: matthew fuller

Thanks. I think that sums it up, but not one of these Romneybots will touch it. They would then have to admit they are wrong. And someone willing to abandon their principles/morality to vote for Romney will NEVER admit that. They can’t.


419 posted on 04/11/2012 10:47:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TonyInOhio

You asked an excellent question, and one I have asked myself. Newt led the debates and made Obama answer to him.

My theory is that a lot of conservatives liked Rick because he had a cleaner life—ie no moral baggage like Newt had.

Now for whatever reason folks voted for Rick no longer matters—he negated their votes by bowing out.

But I did not think Rick had what it takes to take on the DC establishment, and Newt does.

Whatever happened before April 10th at 2:30 EST when Rick bowed out is now in the past.

The new political reality is that there is one conservative standing and one RINO SOB standing.

To me the choice is very simple.

Go Newt! Send him to Tampa and send the GOP a message—our choice is NOT Romney.


420 posted on 04/11/2012 10:49:16 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: cableguymn

My first presidential election was 1960 and I have been on the losing side most of the time. It hurts for 4 years and then you vote again. I would love to vote for one more winner.
My county will vote Republican and so will my state. The rest of you guys do what you like.


421 posted on 04/11/2012 10:49:49 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Artcore

“It really is sad. Truth is, we’re all on the same team here, but this issue (which is a big one!) could fracture us badly.”

Anyone willing to vote for a lib/gay ‘rights’ abortion supporter isn’t on my team. And I play for the Conservatives. Do the math.


422 posted on 04/11/2012 10:50:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jim Robinson

I already do a lot of that, I just think if we punt there won’t be any time left on the clock for this country.
Maybe we’ll have a Hail Mary (Newt)


423 posted on 04/11/2012 10:50:37 PM PDT by PMAS (ABO 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTW, which of these two questions, IYHO, will bother THE NINE SUPREMES the most?

1.) A mandate is merely a dictate. Thus, if we are dictated to, do we then live under a Dictatorship?

2.) If our freedom of choice is taken from us by the dictates of a hostile Federal government, then what Liberty do we have left?


424 posted on 04/11/2012 10:51:12 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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I’m sorry but anything is better than Obama...even Romney. Cant take the chance a Scalia and kennedy both retire or die...and democrats have a 6-3 majority for the next 20 years. That would damage the cause worse than Romney for 4 years. Imagine if there were more support for McCain and rather than sotomayor and kagan we would have had conservatives. 6-3 majority on our side for the foreseeable future. Lifetime appointment is one of the most powerful moves for a president


425 posted on 04/11/2012 10:51:17 PM PDT by TerP26
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To: Graewoulf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_s-Qk07KxA

i think this might be one of them ;)


426 posted on 04/11/2012 10:52:00 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Here Here!! I 427th the motion!


427 posted on 04/11/2012 10:52:54 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Thank you!


428 posted on 04/11/2012 10:53:07 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall
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To: Artcore; navydad
It really is sad.

I'm not in charge but I've got to say this...
If you're so "concerned" then LEAVE and it'll no longer be your concern.

May your chains rest lightly upon you.
Just quit dragging me down with you by your chains.

429 posted on 04/11/2012 10:53:34 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
We still need a plan.

Yep. That's what's lacking, IMHO.

I think the plan should include fighting for Newt as long and as hard as we can. If he wins, we have a candidate. In either case, I think the plan should include:

Fighting at the convention for conservatism in positions of leadership and platform (though the latter has lost much of its force.)

The plan should include electing conservatives in all races, local, state, congress, senate. And, most importantly, making sure these candidates pledge to support tea party issues with legislation when elected.

The plan should result in conservative strength and pressure on whoever is president to sign this legislation - or face dire consequences for their political future.

And the plan should include defeating the current president, his regime and fellow socialists across the board.

That's my ideas for a plan. If anyone has other or better plans...

430 posted on 04/11/2012 10:55:58 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jim Robinson

What to do?

1.) Fly the “Don’t Tread On Me” flag proudly.

2.) Carry signs that say “Enforce the Taxpayer Fairness Rule: make the 51 % who pay NO Federal Income taxes pay THEIR Fair Share!”

3.) Sing or hum “We shall overcome some day - - - “ during Dictator Baby-Doc Barack’s speeches.

4.) Ask the Liberal Agenda Media what they have done TODAY to make the US Federal Government smaller.


431 posted on 04/11/2012 10:56:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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432 posted on 04/11/2012 10:56:31 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Jim Robinson
Well spoken Jim, but that means Obama will be a two termer... or perhaps even more considering the way he and his band respect the Constitution.

I don't much care for any of our options this season, but I do know who's the worst option and it ain't Romney

What are we going to do about it my friend? Stay home and sulk?

Sometimes, we have to eat S**t sandwiches and hope for the best in the future. That's life -- it can suck sometimes. <

I'm totally up for a 3rd party, but there ain't enough time between now and November to make that happen. That dream is for the next go around. Hell, I'll help you start it. But we sure as hell don't need another 4 years of Van Jones types in positions of power.

433 posted on 04/11/2012 10:56:54 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: FReepers

Remember: I told you ..

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434 posted on 04/11/2012 10:57:08 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Big Horn

“4 more years comes with the end of the US as we know it.
No FR and no Fox news.”
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Well said! Unfortunately, most here are oblivious to that reality and simply cannot see it. They somehow think they will ride on into the sunset heroically jousting at windmills for eternity.


435 posted on 04/11/2012 10:57:31 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Jim Robinson

Ditto for me. I want Romney like an ‘’Occupy’ turd wants a bath. He’s a RINO and I’m fed up with holding my nose and voting for RINOS. It’s Newt or nobody!


436 posted on 04/11/2012 10:58:11 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You can count this Constitutional Conservative in Sir. My powder is dry and my will is unshaken. When the time comes my life, my property and my Sacred honor will stand with those who will stand with me and our Constitution.


437 posted on 04/11/2012 10:59:08 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: Graewoulf
“People who won’t stand for anything, will fall for everything.” Unknown

That sounds like some mail room FReeper talk.
(like much of the other good "unknown/anonymous" quotable stuff on the Net)

438 posted on 04/11/2012 10:59:08 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

It absolutely kills me that these posters, after a clear and unambiguous statement by JR about no MR support on FR (one of about 5000 over the last 6 years) continue to act like children whose mothers said “No ice cream”.

They continue to pose ‘special circumstance” concern and clarification questions because a simple “NO!”is not what they want to hear. They want to be able to continue their ‘special’ reasons for defying the wishes of the site owner and cry “bully” when ever they are told to stop.

Just like a liberal.


439 posted on 04/11/2012 10:59:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jim Robinson

“Republican enthusiasm for this election will be non-existent. It already is.”

I respectfully disagree, Jim. I think Republican enthusiasm for throwing Barak Obama out of OUR White House will be overwhelming. It already is.


440 posted on 04/11/2012 11:01:41 PM PDT by navydad
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To: Norm Lenhart
“Thanks. I think that sums it up, but not one of these Romneybots will touch it. They would then have to admit they are wrong. And someone willing to abandon their principles/morality to vote for Romney will NEVER admit that. They can’t.”
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Norm, many folks tonight, including myself, have laid out the reasons why, if necessary, we would vote for Romney. Your calling us “Romneybots” and offering personal insults is very weak and pathetic.

OK, I'll use your tactic: If Obama wins reelection (read: finishes destroying our country), folks like you who decided to sit home and have a pity party will be partly responsible for Obama’s victory, and the final destruction of our country. There is nothing virtuous about behaving like a spoiled brat having a fit. See, anybody can assign false motives to another...it really is simple. ;-)

441 posted on 04/11/2012 11:01:45 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: navydad
“I respectfully disagree, Jim. I think Republican enthusiasm for throwing Barak Obama out of OUR White House will be overwhelming. It already is.”
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You're in good company, Rush and Sarah seem to hold a similar view.

442 posted on 04/11/2012 11:03:33 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: cableguymn

“It is time to return to what this great country was based on. We have strayed so far from what our founders intended I don’t think any of them would recognize it any more.”

Oh, but they would. They would call ot ‘the Crown’.


443 posted on 04/11/2012 11:03:42 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Artcore

Go ahead and explain to me how voting for Mitt is acceptable without abandoning everything you claim to believe in as a conservative.

Don’t duck it. Answer that one simple question.


444 posted on 04/11/2012 11:04:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Artcore

“Truth is, we’re all on the same team here”

We clearly aren’t. Some of us have principles and integrity that we will not compromise, as well as fear of God. I will never knowingly, under any circumstances, vote for someone who is pro abortion. We’ve had a genocide going on. We now have apologists for choosing Hitler’s right hand man over Hitler. It’s abhorrent. My God forgive you.


445 posted on 04/11/2012 11:04:29 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Mr. Jim! You have articulated what MANY of us former Republicans have concluded and are now resolute in our defiance of a co-opted party intended to water-down and otherwise marginalize Conservatives into political irrelevancy.

The GOP left us long ago - and the strategy to try and take the party over from within has FAILED. The Ruling Class has traitors in our midst who have risen up among us and cut our knees out from behind while they opened the doors to compromise with an overt enemy regime to liberty.

Being force-fed Romney after he and his Ruling Class ilk attacked Conservatives as vehemently as the Marxist Left does, has illustrated clearly that the GOP loathes Conservatives every bit as much as the Democrats do.

The GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs, they have deliberately FAILED to be a party of opposition and instead became a tool of coercion and compromise with the enemy.

Conservatives need to coalesce around a new party. I no longer buy the argument that a third party assures victory for the enemy when the fact and fruits are that voting for GOP-e ASSURES a victory for the enemy. 2008 and 2012 bear this out and even moreso in November when Obama crushes Romney, the Obama regime’s CHOSEN opponent.

The GOP leadership will continue to cut down Conservatives rising within it’s ranks. Therefore we need to be in rebellion by no longer playing their game. Make our own team, play by our own rules and shove the enemies domestic from their death grip on our throats.

It begins with prayer. It begins with doing 2 Chronicles 7:14. Then it continues by non-complaince with tyranny and going our own way doing what is right, regardless what the Oligarchs and the Marxist/fascists scream at us. They are the enemy - we need to see them as such. Because assuredly they see us as such. Amen.


446 posted on 04/11/2012 11:04:47 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: navydad
Unfortunately, most here are oblivious to that reality and simply cannot see it.

How pathetic. Take your PSYOP "Argumentum ad populum" (appeal to majority) BS elsewhere.
And take your negative psychological reinforcement through repetition with you as well.

Everybody isn't stupid.

447 posted on 04/11/2012 11:05:50 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I wanted to see what Jim’s answer was - you must be too stupid to understand why I asked the question.
I already have my own answers and ideas.

Go vent your misery somewhere else.


448 posted on 04/11/2012 11:07:20 PM PDT by PMAS (ABO 2012)
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To: Norm Lenhart; navydad; Artcore
It's the faux tag team game that irks me the most.

You two are having your own little pity party posting back and forth to each other.

You two aren't fooling anybody.

449 posted on 04/11/2012 11:09:43 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: CottonBall

“And with that I’m fully expecting to be banned...permanently.If that happens I bid you all farewell.

I’ll join you. I find the hypocracy here insane. A bit of the twilight zone. Four years ago, people were villified for pointing out McAmnesty’s liberal stances. Probably many were banned. Now, many are pretending that never happened.

How can so many intelligent people ignore the reality of what really happened 4 years ago?

I find the stance of “No RINOs” admirable. But the hypocracy of pretending that has always been the case - that not so much. I would respect honesty more.”
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Maybe Jim will comment on this. He’s a good man.


450 posted on 04/11/2012 11:11:13 PM PDT by navydad
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