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Vanity: What could Zimmerman have told the prosecutor?

Posted on 04/12/2012 1:27:02 AM PDT by Jonty30

Up into Zimmerman phoned the prosecutor, it looked like that it was heading to a manslaughter charge and Zimmerman's lawyers dropped him just after the phone call.

I'm thinking he told the prosecutor something that allowed her to bump up the charge. Like not heading back to his vehicle or something.

That may be why the lawyers dropped him, because Zimmerman made the case for the prosecutor.


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1 posted on 04/12/2012 1:27:07 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

“It’s a fair cop, You got me bang to rights”


2 posted on 04/12/2012 1:30:06 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Jonty30

More likely he asked for a trial so he can get a public hearing instead of a media assassination. Its the only recourse he has to change the public perception due to all the media lies.


3 posted on 04/12/2012 1:32:59 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

I don’t think he’s that smart.

I think he tried to explain his side of it, in hopes of the prosecutor would understand and work with him, but he told her something she could use against him instead.


4 posted on 04/12/2012 1:36:12 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

When in doubt, shut your pie hole.
The media wasnt his friend, and he doomed himself.
The old police saying: “When talking to the press,lawyers or superiors,if it felt good when you said it, it was the wrong thing to say” Applies here.
Lesson learned by all CCW holders is: Let the lawyer do the talking and dummy up until you have to.


5 posted on 04/12/2012 1:45:56 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Jonty30

Or he invoked his right to a speedy trial by a jury of his peers.

The world has been on George Zimmermans head. The GD POTUS has convicted him, and his whole family and people not even associated with him have been living in fear. Speculation it may be, but he might have just come forward and said, “charge me and try me, but let’s have pressure relief here or there will be a race war.”

Going to be one of those anyway for this bodes not well for anyone white who defends themselves against a black assailant. The racial hucksters are now emboldened to travel the nation and attack any incident with impunity and the tacit blessing of the current DOJ and administration.

I, for one, will not be cowed. I will not hesistate to save my own life, the life of my family, or a stranger in need.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 1:48:23 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: Jonty30

“I’m Stoopit. So, let me tell you what happened...”


7 posted on 04/12/2012 1:56:15 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jonty30

With the New Black Panthers putting a bounty on his head, he is much safer in jail than out in the public somewhere. The govt. can give him protection if he is in their custody.

They can charge him with murder 2, but it doesn’t mean he will convicted with it.....

I just want the truth to come out, either way.


8 posted on 04/12/2012 1:57:39 AM PDT by mrsadams
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To: Yorlik803

Your only friend within the world of prosecution is your defense attorney. If the police want you to stop by for a “friendly” chat, it’s lawyering up time.

Not even your wife and kids can be considered friendlies in this situation. Your wife cannot be compelled to testify, but she might say something problematic anyway. Or your husband, if the wife is being charged, just so everybody understands I’m not picking on women. :)


9 posted on 04/12/2012 1:59:28 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mrsadams

I agree he’s safer in solitary custody.


10 posted on 04/12/2012 2:02:56 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

This again? She refused to talk with him and immediately contacted his two former lawyers to tell them he called.

He called because he knew the charge was coming already, probably thought he could at least explain his side.


11 posted on 04/12/2012 2:04:22 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: mrsadams

I agree, but the odd thing is that is all the prosecution charged him with.

I was told that, in Florida, the prosecution can hit you with the whole gamut: murder 1&2, manslaughter, negligent homicide, and others, to ensure you get something.

But the odd thing is, it’s either murder 2 or George might walk.


12 posted on 04/12/2012 2:08:22 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: snarkytart

When did she tell him this, immediately or two minutes into the conversation?


13 posted on 04/12/2012 2:09:31 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
Where are all you people who suggest he talked to the prosecutor getting this info from?

I've yet to see any reliable reports that this actually happened.

14 posted on 04/12/2012 2:21:18 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Jonty30

The article I read (don’t have a link, sorry) said that he wanted to talk, but she refused to talk to him as soon as she learned that his lawyers weren’t there.


15 posted on 04/12/2012 2:26:29 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

It didn’t happen. He called but was rebuffed because the prosecutor had her charge ready and wasn’t about to risk anything by speaking to Zimmerman over the phone with no attorney present. She called his attorneys and the in turn quit after not being able to reach him.
I think he was ready for a series defense attorney anyway. Those other two seemed, well, not very competent.


16 posted on 04/12/2012 2:34:19 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: snarkytart

OMG I did series thing. I meant SERIOUS.
lol


17 posted on 04/12/2012 2:36:12 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Jonty30

It’s like they want to charge him to calm the situation, but also give him an easy path to acquittal.


18 posted on 04/12/2012 2:41:01 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Jonty30

I guess GZ thought justice was blind....

That’s naïve at best


19 posted on 04/12/2012 2:42:05 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: snarkytart

I had heard that too, but what was unclear was whether the prosecutor rebuffed him before opening his mouth or whether he had a chance to say anything stupid.


20 posted on 04/12/2012 2:44:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Moonman62

That is certainly possible and wouldn’t surprise me.


21 posted on 04/12/2012 2:45:54 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

“I agree, but the odd thing is that is all the prosecution charged him with”

I think she is there to simply keep the whole situation inflamed. If I heard her right, she talked about the murder victim, Trayvon and tossed in “homicide” a few times. I think she should just give the mob a noose and be done with it.


22 posted on 04/12/2012 2:46:20 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Moonman62

“All we want is for him to be charged or there will be riots”

“Now that he’s charged, we want a trial or there will be riots”

“Now that he’s on trial we want a conviction or there will be riots”

“Once he’s found guilty, we want the needle or there will be riots”

“If he’s found not guilty there will be riots”

There’s gonna be riots no matter how this turns out. But I agree, if he’s found not guilty, she can at least say she tried.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 2:48:34 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (God is dead - William Hamilton....William Hamilton is dead - God (And he means it))
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To: freeangel

It IS “homicide” any time one person is killed by another.

YOU, however, just referred to Travon as the “murder victim”


24 posted on 04/12/2012 2:52:47 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: PalmettoMason

What I meant to say was that I thought I heard the prosecutor say “murder victim” during her presser.


25 posted on 04/12/2012 2:54:35 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Jonty30

Yep. We all insult the defense attorney when they defend scumbags. But when you need one, they are Gods gift and can do no wrong.


26 posted on 04/12/2012 3:01:52 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

This is political dog and pony show. The fix is in, Anyone that doesn’t think the prosecutor had gotten the memo is just wishful thinking! If some jury has the stones to actually find Zimmerman not guilty he will immediately be charged with Federal Hate Crime violations... Zimmerman if he lives that long is going to prison


27 posted on 04/12/2012 3:10:18 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Yorlik803

I like good defense lawyers who do their job in an ethical fashion. That I don’t have a problem with.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 3:14:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mrsadams

With the New Black Panthers putting a bounty on his head, he is much safer in jail than out in the public somewhere.

Okay. You really don’t understand the prison system very well. Most every prison is actually run by prisoners. Depending on the location and make up of the population it could be black gangsters, hispanic drug gangs, white supremacy groups or a prison can be divided into sections run by these various groups. If there is a prisoner that people want dead, he gets dead. PERIOD.....


29 posted on 04/12/2012 3:14:48 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Jonty30

A future hung jury.


30 posted on 04/12/2012 3:42:17 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Well, she never talked to him. He only TRIED to contact her.

That is what his former Lawyers said.

31 posted on 04/12/2012 3:43:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Prison is for those convicted.

Until he is convicted he is held at the county jail.


32 posted on 04/12/2012 3:43:37 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Have you ever heard of isolation units in prisons?


33 posted on 04/12/2012 3:44:11 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Beagle8U

That”s good news then.


34 posted on 04/12/2012 3:45:11 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

Being a neighborhood watchman, Zimmerman probably had foolish faith in the American system of “justice.” He will find that there is no balm in Gilead, I suspect. A FL jury will crucify him because it will do as it is told.


35 posted on 04/12/2012 3:45:57 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Jonty30

IMO, I think the lawyers quit because they fear repercussions from the race baiters and Martin supporters.


36 posted on 04/12/2012 3:47:10 AM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Jonty30

Since he was not in contact with his putative lawyers and undoubtedly afraid to stay in his home, he may have just been calling to leave a phone number where he could be reached. Could easily have been something as simple as that.


37 posted on 04/12/2012 3:48:03 AM PDT by dorothy ( "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Yorlik803
I hear his new attorney yesterday. Very impressed. A thin Perry Mason I thought.

Forensics will be the key. Was he shot from three feet away or two inches while they were on the ground. Are Tray's fingerprints on the gun?? Was Tray on drugs?? (Sometimes gives you superior "power" I suppose...makes that adrenelin go crazy??

38 posted on 04/12/2012 3:49:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Yorlik803

Say only 3 things:

1) I was in fear for my life.
2) That’s all I have to say.
3) I want to talk to my attorney.

Period.


39 posted on 04/12/2012 4:08:37 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: carriage_hill

Good comment! Said it better than I can! Hope to see you at the talkradio threads later.


40 posted on 04/12/2012 4:19:07 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Another question I have is, will that witness be called in?


41 posted on 04/12/2012 4:20:05 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: duckman

Or because of threats?


42 posted on 04/12/2012 4:23:15 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Theodore R.

I predict a hung jury outcome more likely.


43 posted on 04/12/2012 4:24:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Exactly !


44 posted on 04/12/2012 4:25:21 AM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: carriage_hill

That’s right. If you’ve done anything that might be considered a criminal offense, you don’t talk to the cops. Period. You will never talk yourself out of a charge but you sure might talk yourself into one.


45 posted on 04/12/2012 4:26:03 AM PDT by KyCats
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To: Sacajaweau

Zimmerman’s brother should represent him. He put up an incredible defense prosecutor Peirs Morgan last nights.


46 posted on 04/12/2012 4:26:16 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: All

Listening to a local talkradio show host say that the kid stood his ground.


47 posted on 04/12/2012 4:27:32 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: jersey117

Meant to say his brother put up a great defense against Morgan who wad clearly playing the role of prosecutor.


48 posted on 04/12/2012 4:29:13 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: Jonty30

It was stupid for him to say anything at all — let the trained professionals handle the mess.


49 posted on 04/12/2012 4:29:21 AM PDT by Only Sane Man
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To: jersey117

Mr. Zimmwerman’s father is a retired judge. The family isn’t ignorant. I believe this was wise. He’ll be acquited. If our afro-Aneruican brothers and sisters have any brains, they won’t “riot”.


50 posted on 04/12/2012 4:31:51 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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