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Vanity: What could Zimmerman have told the prosecutor?

Posted on 04/12/2012 1:27:02 AM PDT by Jonty30

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To: SECURE AMERICA
With the New Black Panthers putting a bounty on his head, he is much safer in jail than out in the public somewhere.

Not true..not even close.

51 posted on 04/12/2012 4:40:36 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Jonty30

Murder 1 charge requires a Grand Jury. So that was out the moment they announced it would not go to a GJ.

The jury is free in FL to go with a charge below Murder 2, I believe.

M2 automatically includes the possibility of the lesser charges, I think.


52 posted on 04/12/2012 4:48:36 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: SECURE AMERICA

The Feds can charge him with hate crimes but I doubt it would even go past a preliminary hearing. There is no simply no evidence to support the charges.


53 posted on 04/12/2012 4:57:05 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Molon Labbie
The GD POTUS [usuper in chief] has convicted him

That should be the first thing out of his attorney's mouth - any jury pool has been tainted.

54 posted on 04/12/2012 5:10:57 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Jonty30
Folks, you should never talk to the police if you are suspected of doing wrong. It doesn't matter what you say, they can twist it and use it against you. I would bet that Zimmerman said something the thought would help clear him and they are going to use it to convict him. Take the 5th, that is why it was put into the bill of rights. To help innocent people from being wrongly convicted.

Take the 5th and ask for your lawyer and you can't go wrong, at least not as wrong as talking to the cops. The cops won't help you, they are not there to help you and they are not trying to find the truth. They are trying to find the easiest person to convict and if you run your mouth it will most likely be you.

55 posted on 04/12/2012 5:19:53 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Jonty30
I'm thinking he told the prosecutor something that allowed her to bump up the charge.

Oh, please! This is about our Norman lords being able to pull the wings off a peasant fly like George Zimmerman, while a royal like Jon Corzine walks around free.

The racebaiters in the White House & in the media WANT this country to be like Britain, where the yobs can terrorise anyone they like, and any peasant who resists gets the book thrown at them.

12-year-old Trayvon gets rid of neighborhood watches, self-defense and concealed carry all in one fell swoop.

Norman lords like Sir Michael Bloomberg still get their phalanx of automatic-weapon-toting men-at-arms, but the peasants are effectively disarmed.

Win-win for "Dick" Holder and his Kenyan boss.

56 posted on 04/12/2012 5:25:16 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: hal ogen; mickie; flaglady47
"Mr. Zimmerman's father is a retired Judge".

I read somewhere that his father was a "Magistrate" in Virginia, now retired, and entitled to to be referred to as "Judge".

Magistrates (formerly referred to in many states as "Justices of the Peace") are generally lay people who have the authority to take care of small court cases.

In Virginia, magistrates are appointed by the Executive Secretary of the VA Supreme Court.

You do not have to be a lawyer to be appointed as a magistrate or justice of the peace. VA and most states require only a BA degree, fingererprints and, in many, if not most cases, a long history of fealty and service to a particular political party....in other words....a substantial amount of magisterial positions are judicial patronage appointments.

This does not obviate the fact that magistrates, by and large, are public servants who are conscientous, hard-working, educated and resistant to corruption.

Leni

57 posted on 04/12/2012 5:29:26 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: carriage_hill
Leave 1 and 2 out, replace them with:

"I am kind of shook up, I don't want to say anything or answer any questions until I talk to my attorney."

or

"I'm feel a little confused and shocked right now, can we talk later after I talk with my attorney, and calm down a bit?"

Either one of those responses are all you need to say, and there will be no questioning.
Volunteer NOTHING. Not even what time it is, if asked.

58 posted on 04/12/2012 5:31:50 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: Jonty30

He was represented by counsel at the time. The prosecutor could not legally talk to him and anything he told her would be inautdmissible in court.

The prosecutor filed MURDER charges because she knew that anything less than murder would not have mollified the mob. She’s a political hack and her decision was based on politics and not on the facts. If she had not charged him with any crime then she would have been a target for death threats and her career would have been over and Sanford would be burning. That is why she charged him with murder.

Any questions?


59 posted on 04/12/2012 5:32:40 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: kiryandil
This is about our Norman lords being able to pull the wings off a peasant fly like George Zimmerman, while a royal like Jon Corzine walks around free.

Nothin' like gettin' right down to the nitty gritty.

60 posted on 04/12/2012 5:38:51 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: calex59
I don't see how people can't understand this. Even a simple denial of guilt can work against you. Even if you are as innocent and pure as the driven snow, you keep your trap shut and call a shark, it's what they do. Even for a stupid traffic ticket. "Do you know how fast you were going?" Don't answer it if you plan to contest it.

The police are there to charge you, it's their job. They will lie, promise, twist and play mind games with you... same with anyone working for the State. I squirm when I'm watching cops on TV and hear a cop "tell me the truth and I'll work with you"... they fall for it every dang time and without fail, are in the back of a car in cuffs. That's what they mean when they promise to work with you and be fair. It also drives me absolutely crazy watching people instantly consent to searches. Making mountains from mole hills makes for good resume material, it's their job...

61 posted on 04/12/2012 5:41:59 AM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: carriage_hill
4). " officer, I don't feel good, my chest hurts and I'm having trouble breathing.... COUGH COUGH, Please call an ambulance for me!" ( then have your attorney (you should have on speed dial if your CCW instructor worth a damn) meet you at hospital after your heart attack turns out to be an acute anxiety attack.

There is chatter in the CCW realm that the injustice in this case (if no new evidence) increasing the chance of normal law abiding citizens to revive the illegal/immoral concept of carrying a "drop gun" or "drop knife" to prevent over zealous prosecution. Im ashamed that I even have to say that, but this is a country I am starting not to recognize anymore!

62 posted on 04/12/2012 6:03:50 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: Wizdum

See my reply above. Always good to be seen as a victim, up to and including ambulance ride. It buys time to cool down, let your SNS system get working again, and hopefully your lawyer to get to the hospital.


63 posted on 04/12/2012 6:08:32 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: Jonty30
He's better off with a second-degree murder charge than a manslaughter charge because by no stretch of the imagination could it be second-degree murder.

It's a slam-dunk acquittal.

64 posted on 04/12/2012 6:28:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: snarkytart

Series, serious, what’s the difference, eh?


65 posted on 04/12/2012 6:40:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: DCBryan1; Wizdum

Good advice; thanks!


66 posted on 04/12/2012 7:11:58 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: DCBryan1

Oh yeah, that is a good one. The DA wants a live subject, not a heart attack victim. I had to learn my lesson the hard way, and it cost me a fair amount of treasure.


67 posted on 04/12/2012 7:14:38 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: Biggirl

I always come to your/FF’s Pings, bg. Just say *where/when*!


68 posted on 04/12/2012 7:15:08 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: KyCats

Excellent point, KC.


69 posted on 04/12/2012 7:20:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Jonty30

I think the pressure got to him: having to be on the run all the time and not having freedom of movement. I think Mr. Zimmerman thought if he called the prosecutor he could tell his side of the story and it’d be over, and that’s what caused his former legal counsel to jump ship. He walked into the lion’s mouth and any bargaining chips they’d planned on disappeared.


70 posted on 04/12/2012 7:39:05 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Durus

“The Feds can charge him with hate crimes but I doubt it would even go past a preliminary hearing. There is no simply no evidence to support the charges.”

Yu be a fool.

When charging someone with a hate crime, who be needin’ “evidence” ???


71 posted on 04/12/2012 9:43:05 AM PDT by Road Glide
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