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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

I, for one, was rather stunned when slimy Dalton got re-elected.

OTOH, so many immigrants in Ontario who are pandered to by the libs, along with an extemely left media (Sun News was either fairly new or just starting up)helped cause this.

Ontario = California, politically speaking. I still remember when Ontario elected Mike Harris - boy, we’ve come way down.


4 posted on 04/12/2012 10:30:12 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

This time around I think Dalton won because Hudak ran such a mediocre campaign. The results were close but the Tories could have won it had they been in attack mode from the moment the writ was dropped.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 10:41:35 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: JudyinCanada

“I, for one, was rather stunned when slimy Dalton got re-elected.”

I wasn’t. If we’re comparing states to provinces, California is British Columbia with its extremely leftist city and costal folk, while the more rural inland is hardcore conservative.

Ontario, on the other hand, is like New York State, D.C., Michigan and New Hampshire annexed into one (With Toronto being New York City, Ottawa being Washington, Windsor being Detroit, and Northern Ontario being New Hampshire and the Michigan U.P.)

But I remember visiting friends in Canada during that election. What surprised me is how differently they perceived the candidates depending upon where they lived.

In Toronto, conservatives viewed Tory as “the lesser of two evils” whereas in the rest of the province, particularly in rural areas, could not decide whether Tory was the second coming of Obama bin Laden or Barney Frank. That’s why so many Northern Ontario conservatives voted NDP (socialist): at least they could trust NDP leader Howard Hampton - also from northern Ontario - to represent them on northern and rural issues. You know the choices are bad when conservative voters are ignoring the socialist candidate’s record while in Bob Rae’s cabinet.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 10:54:02 AM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Say no to RINO DORCs (Democrats Obstructing Republican Conservatives))
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To: JudyinCanada

“OTOH, so many immigrants in Ontario who are pandered to by the libs,”

One cannot blame the immigrant vote for this one. In fact, quite the opposite. Having retained their traditional family values from the old country, and appalled by the legalization of same-sex marriage, by the time the Ontario election rolled around, the immigrant vote had already started its shift to the Conservative Party federally. It was this shift, along with a similar shift among Catholic voters, that replaced the federal Liberal dynasty with Stephen Harper’s Conservative minority during the preceding federal election.

John Tory could have built provincially on Harper’s federal inroads into the immigrant community. Instead he put forward the public funding policy. I recall talking to a Muslim friend of mine in Ottawa that I had met through the traditional marriage movement.

He described Muslim reaction to me as follows: “Secular and moderate Muslims are horrified because they think Tory will fund the extremists. Their whole reason for coming to Canada was to get away from the Sharia. On the other hand, Muslim traditionalists are upset because they think Tory is trying to impose the gay agenda upon their children.”

Of course my Christian friends in Ontario were scared Tory would do both.


8 posted on 04/12/2012 11:19:23 AM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon (Say no to RINO DORCs (Democrats Obstructing Republican Conservatives))
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