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Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria Found In Four Million-Year-Old Cave
Global Post ^ | 4-12-2012 | Alexander Besant

Posted on 04/12/2012 5:42:31 PM PDT by blam

Antibiotic Resistant Bacteria Found In Four Million-Year-Old Cave

The bacteria, found in the isolated Lechuguilla Cave in New Mexico, over 1300 feet below the earth, may hold the secret to understanding drug resistance.

Alexander Besant
April 12, 2012 17:19

Researchers said they discovered ancient bacteria resistant to both natural and synthetic antibiotics while investigating a 4-million-year-old cave in New Mexico.

The finding, may have implications for both the understanding of drug resistance and ways of preventing it.

The scientists involved collected 93 strains of bacteria from Lechuguilla cave, approximately 1300 feet deep, and found that all the strains collected were resistant to at least one antibiotic out of the 26 tested with some resistant to up to 14 different types, reported the Los Angeles Times.

The emergence of antibiotic-resistant bacteria has largely been attributed to overconsumption of the drugs by humans and animals.

Yet, given the age and isolation of the cave, said Time, drug resistance may also have other causes.

“Clinical microbiologists have been perplexed for the longest time. When you bring a new antibiotic into the hospital, resistance inevitably appears shortly thereafter, within months to years,” study leader Gerry Wright, a chemical biologist at McMaster University in Ontario, told National Geographic.

“It’s still a big question: Where is this coming from. Almost no one thought to look at other bacteria, the ones that don’t necessarily cause disease.”

The discovery of antibiotic resistant bacteria in an isolated cave is a major advancement in understanding infectious diseases around the world, reported the Canadian Press.

"The actual source of much of this resistance are harmless bacteria that live in the environment," Wright said.

"This has important clinical implications," Wright said, according to UPI. "It suggests that there are far more antibiotics in the environment that could be found and used to treat currently untreatable infections."


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: bacteria; canada; drugresistance; gerrywright; godsgravesglyphs; microbiology; newmexico; ontario; science

1 posted on 04/12/2012 5:42:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The scientists involved collected 93 strains of bacteria from Lechuguilla cave, approximately 1300 feet deep, and found that all the strains collected were resistant to at least one antibiotic out of the 26 tested with some resistant to up to 14 different types, reported the Los Angeles Times.

My bet is that 93 strains of surface bacteria would have a similar resistance profile.

2 posted on 04/12/2012 5:44:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: blam

Could that mean that the genes for resistance to antibiotics were always there?


3 posted on 04/12/2012 5:45:54 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: blam

More ammunition to use against those who claim that bacteria is evolving. The truth is that some bacteria is naturally resistant to antibiotics.


4 posted on 04/12/2012 5:47:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Westbrook

it depends if they were Levi’s or Wranglers.


5 posted on 04/12/2012 5:48:45 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Westbrook
Could that mean that the genes for resistance to antibiotics were always there?

If was say that it was, then we can't blame it on people for using antibiotics, so no.

6 posted on 04/12/2012 5:48:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: blam

Please, no Michelle jokes.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 5:51:22 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walk into a bar. Bartender says "what'll it be, Mitt?")
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To: blam

I had mrsa in my spine requiring three surguries in 3 months. I thought this was a decimon post. Anyone seen him lately??


8 posted on 04/12/2012 5:57:19 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Westbrook
I think the suggestion is that there are natural antibiotics out there that have caused resistance in these bacteria. This is a good thing because it means that we can “discover” more naturally occurring antibiotics that may be beneficial.
9 posted on 04/12/2012 5:58:22 PM PDT by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: Westbrook

If true it means they will be weaponized in short order. There are just too many people, they are giving Al’s planet a fever.


10 posted on 04/12/2012 5:59:30 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: goseminoles
" I thought this was a decimon post. Anyone seen him lately?? "

Don't know anything.

A search shows that decimon posted last on January 21, 2012.

11 posted on 04/12/2012 6:12:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...

Pandemic bug ping...


12 posted on 04/12/2012 6:28:24 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1178 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: blam

Weird. Prayers his way if need be..


13 posted on 04/12/2012 6:32:23 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: outofstyle

I think all the current antibiotics are based on natural antibiotics discovered in various organisms.

There are machines screening millions of compounds for antibiotic, antitumor and other medicinal virtues.


14 posted on 04/12/2012 6:48:58 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: blam

Didn’t the X-Files movie begin this way?


15 posted on 04/12/2012 6:50:54 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: blam

Scientists discovering bacteria millions of years old that are not vulnerable to modern medicine, somehow that plot rings a bell.


16 posted on 04/12/2012 6:51:32 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: outofstyle
Yet, given the age and isolation of the cave, said Time, drug resistance may also have other causes.

Yes, but if the bacteria is already resistant - then we'd find what we already have... right?

17 posted on 04/12/2012 7:13:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: Quix

This is just strange enough that I thought you’d enjoy it. Hope you’re feeling better - you’re in my prayers.


18 posted on 04/12/2012 7:14:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: outofstyle

Just about all antibiotics are derived from bacteria or fungi.
very few are just “chemical conglomerations” Supposedly this
is due to the chemical wars going on between competing
microorganisms and we are using weapons which the
bacteria and fungus have already. (As a sidebar, does that mean that war is “natural”
and just like any behaviour which is overlooked cuz it is
“natural”, is war OK too? Should we accept the diversity that
is present with warlike folk?)
As far as resistance goes, most of the genetic information
is present in the world (pre human antibiotic development),
sometimes, it is passed on through
viral transmission of the gene, or by “bacterial” sex(there is
a way for bacteria to inject part of it’s genome into a
different bacteria) or rearrangement of genes already present.
Or by plasmids....From my understanding of this
subject, there may be some genome which develops
new genes which code for “resistance”, but it is certainly
not the main way “resistance” occurs. Since we didn’t know
the bacterial genomes before, we don’t know if the
resistance genes are new developments, at least yet.
The main reason why they say that resistance “develops” is
cuz it is now noticed to a greater extent than what was
thought previously.
Everyone talks about MRSA (i.e. methicillin resistant
staph aureus)...but when the drug methicillin first was
introduced in the early 60’s..there were already resistant
organisms...they just hadn’t spread around to the point
where they were clinically significant...Now they is.


19 posted on 04/12/2012 7:15:45 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: blam
The discovery of antibiotic resistant bacteria in an isolated cave...

Now ya did it!

20 posted on 04/12/2012 7:16:38 PM PDT by 386wt
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To: goseminoles

I had MRSA myself — on my legs, back and chest — and it was a hard fight. I don’t mean to pry, but how did they know the MRSA was in your spine? If it travels to the bones, how do you know?


21 posted on 04/12/2012 7:47:25 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: blam

Everyone would be wise to look into Silver Sol . . .Silver Sol is an engineered silver nano-particle mineral supplement by American Biotech Labs (gel and liquid). Can’t say enough about its effectiveness. . . even on my little beagle who was mauled by another dog. We have used it for MRSA, etc, etc, etc. Shop around for the best prices. It is not colloidal silver.


22 posted on 04/12/2012 7:49:03 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: blam
Oh goodie! More stuff that can ‘accidentally’ be released that will kill us.

What fun!

23 posted on 04/12/2012 8:01:54 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Those who claim that bacteria is evolving”??

Right there in the article “When you bring a new antibiotic into the hospital, resistance inevitably appears shortly thereafter, within months to years”


24 posted on 04/12/2012 8:03:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: blam

Good, it appears another urban legend has proven false. Now onward to the fallacy of carbon dating.


25 posted on 04/12/2012 8:05:47 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: blam

Good, it appears another urban legend has proven false. Now onward to the fallacy of carbon dating.


26 posted on 04/12/2012 8:05:53 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: null and void; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; ...

Bump & please pardon the redundant pings


28 posted on 04/12/2012 8:16:19 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: blam
"This has important clinical implications," Wright said, according to UPI. "It suggests that there are far more antibiotics in the environment that could be found and used to treat currently untreatable infections."

So, the essential question is one of whether swabs and samples were checked for natural antibiotics, which might be resisted by the bacteria present, but then again, might have efficacy against pathogens.

29 posted on 04/12/2012 9:42:20 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks blam.

And in the next cave over, bacteria-resistant antibiotics were found! ;')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


30 posted on 04/12/2012 9:52:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PastorBooks

I had epidural abcesses with mrsa. The last time it was osteomyetisis. All three times required surgery(laminectomy) with an iv pic line for antibiotics.


31 posted on 04/13/2012 5:07:24 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: PastorBooks

It was 3 times in 3yrs not months.


32 posted on 04/13/2012 5:10:29 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

No doubt they brought this bacteria out of the cave accidently on their clothes or perhaps in their bodies BEFORE they did tests to determine its lethality.

Now the bacteria is loose in a world without any defenses after a 4,000,000 year sleep.

Remember the stela in “2001, A Space Odyssey?” Here is what it said in the language of an ancient vanished race.

Thank you, distinguished scientists. We know you meant well.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 6:30:02 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

I probably already contracted it 4 million years ago, during its last epidemic, so I’m immune.


34 posted on 04/13/2012 11:01:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam; decimon

Well, I’m reasonably certain that Helen Thomas, being from the 4,000,000 BC era herself, is also immune.

What we need to do to save the human species is mate you and Helen to produce a genetic strain that carries the immune gene.

Can you get up for it? Remember this is to save the species.

Why, we could film it and put the film into an honored time capsule so future generations could....could...watch...and...and...

Sorry, I broke down in tears, thinking about your sacrifice,
and couldn’t finish. Maybe some of our friends could carry on the thought in the thread.


35 posted on 04/14/2012 6:06:16 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: blam

Researchers said they discovered ancient bacteria resistant to both natural and synthetic antibiotics while investigating a 4-million-year-old cave in New Mexico.


Now give us some more tax payer money!!!


36 posted on 04/14/2012 8:09:04 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: wildbill

Great, now I’ve got hysterical blindness, my next date could be Helen Thomas, and I wouldn’t even know, except by getting her drunk to see if she starts spewing hatred of the Jews.


37 posted on 04/15/2012 7:27:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wildbill

:’) Just because it’s antibiotic resistant doesn’t mean it’s either contagious to humans or lethal.


38 posted on 04/15/2012 7:44:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

Oh ha ha....I love this...


39 posted on 04/16/2012 8:23:16 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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