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Jackson, Houston leaders stand up against 'Stand Your Ground'
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 12, 2012 | Cindy George

Posted on 04/13/2012 4:07:32 AM PDT by humblegunner

The Rev. Jesse Jackson joined local ministers and Houston Congressman Al Green at a news conference on Thursday to call for an end to Stand Your Ground-type state laws across the nation and an end to gun violence.

The presentation at the Metropolitan Christian Methodist Episcopal Church came one day after George Zimmerman, a central Florida neighborhood watch captain, was charged with second-degree murder in the February fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The teen's death had sparked an international outcry for the arrest of Zimmerman, 28, who was questioned then released from police custody the night of the incident based on Florida's Stand Your Ground law. Numerous "Justice for Trayvon" rallies and protests have been held in Houston over the last few weeks.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agitprop; banglist; gungrabbers; jackson; rkba
I wouldn't necessarily call Al Green a "leader".. he's more of a media clown.

Dreadful sorry too that Jackson doesn't like our laws.
Maybe he should go the hell back wherever he came from.


1 posted on 04/13/2012 4:07:39 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Any protests against SYG is only going to increase its support.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 4:11:37 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: humblegunner

Please allow me to translate what all of these idiots are really saying to us:

“Yo, Whitey.......put up yo guns and take it. If a young black man wantsta whup yo ass and rob yo stuff o’ maybe killya....jus’ take it like ya should ‘n’ sh**. Y’all ain’t got NO right to defend yoself; y’all deSERVE it, motherf***er!!”

There. Hope that’s a bit clearer.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 4:11:37 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: humblegunner

Jesse Jackson hates black people.

He must. He sure seems to want to leave them defenseless.

Just watch the news out of Detroit and you’ll see that the defensive shootings are almost exclusively done by blacks defending themselves against black attackers.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 4:11:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RightOnline

Ignore that translation and carry on being well-protected.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 4:16:20 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: humblegunner
It took a couple of weeks for it to come out, but now everyone knows the real reason for the stink around Zimmerman/Martin...eliminating Stand Your Ground laws.

Hopefully blacks and Hispanics in America will realize that, once again, they're being spitefully used.
Will they finally get tired of being used in such a manner and say...enough?

6 posted on 04/13/2012 4:20:17 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: humblegunner

When this Zimmerman story broke, the Stand Your Ground law was the first thing the guy I carpool with brought up. He is a graduate of ND and is a proclaimed independent. He’s not. He’s a Liberal.

But the SYG was the first thing He brought up and he was saying how Florida has this law that would let Zimmerman off. I didn’t know anything about the case, so I just said “I doubt it’s as clear cut as that”. I did my research then and at a later date started debating him. He didn’t even know that PA just adopted, basically, the same law. He then went on to claim that people could just shoot people randomly. Ugh. Then he went on to say gangs and drug dealers use the SYG defense. I asked for sources on those. Of course, He had none.

Here’s the kicker. It came down to him saying that unless someone is going to get shot (horrible logic, I know), then he would shoot in defense. I then asked him if He would shoot someone who was raping his mom or sister. He said no. That was the end of that discussion. I don’t debate idiots. Especially Immoral and lying ones.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 4:21:50 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: humblegunner

The GOP should be to brand Obama with this between now and election day......but they’ll find a way to run away from it....even tho the issues involve a social minority that will never vote for them


8 posted on 04/13/2012 4:23:31 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: humblegunner
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6...

9 posted on 04/13/2012 4:26:15 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: humblegunner

Please tell me what the ‘Stand Your Ground’ law did in this case. If there was no law, nothing would have changed and Treyvon Martin would still be dead.

What the ‘Stand Your Ground’ law is good for, is to give fools like Jesse Jackson a little bit more air time. That’s all!


10 posted on 04/13/2012 4:30:45 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: philman_36
At least can make up snappy original slogans.


11 posted on 04/13/2012 4:34:28 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: RightOnline
Please allow me to translate what all of these idiots are really saying to us: “Yo, Whitey.......put up yo guns and take it. If a young black man wantsta whup yo ass and rob yo stuff o’ maybe killya....jus’ take it like ya should ‘n’ sh**. Y’all ain’t got NO right to defend yoself; y’all deSERVE it, motherf***er!!” There. Hope that’s a bit clearer.

Well said; but how did you omit the word "sneakers" from the deal???

12 posted on 04/13/2012 4:34:46 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: humblegunner

Just because a large majority of those assuming room temperature as a result of ‘stand your ground’ and other similar laws are black does not mean these laws are inherently racist. It does signal those attempting to commit the crimes are predominantly black. These so-called ‘leaders’ should be more concerned with the staggeringly high numbers of violent crimes perpetrated by and on members of the black community, rather than the justifiable actions of property owners protecting life and limb.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 4:36:31 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: humblegunner
Jackson can try as hard as he may, like as hard as he attempted to conceal his mistress and love child from his wife, but he will fail all the same.

Idiot socialists can never trump the God given right, the very drive programmed into us for self preservation.

We're just born that way, you intolerant leftist scumbags, get over it, haters!

How'd that sound, Hummblegunner? Am I getting this "leftspeak" thingy down? : )

14 posted on 04/13/2012 4:36:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: justice14

There was a theory, called The precipice Theory, now I am not a professor, I am just a truck driver but this theory has been around some time and its essentially saying society can only change its course when its right at the edge of the precipice, cliff or the edge of reason.
America has a social disease, its called stupidity, its a weakness of the soul, its why so many millions supported an Islamofascist, its why so many are afraid to correct their mistakes.

I see this occasionally and it fills my heart with a heavy weight that I can try to educate these people, I can do it only because I too have done stupid things, but I saw the incorrect decision and learned from it, I did NOT work thrice as hard supporting a bad decision, working deeper into lies, deception and misdirection to support my act of stupidity.

These are the people that will “figuratively” turn into pillars of salt when their beloved ideology and city falls, for they are too weak to to let go of their stupidity.

Sorry about the rant, its not at you but for any of those who decide to just read this here at FR.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 4:38:06 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: justice14

People like that are cowards. They, of course, would not mind if a cop shot the rapist. It would let them off the hook and they could “feel better” about themselves.


16 posted on 04/13/2012 4:39:48 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: humblegunner

Does this mean no mo’ bring a gun to a knife fight?
Yo obama, you cool with that? What about the folks that like a good brawl?

http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/10/obama-flashback-if-they-bring-knife-fight-we-bring-gun


17 posted on 04/13/2012 4:45:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: humblegunner

Jesse and his traveling minstrel show can go pimp some place else.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 4:45:48 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: Sigurdrifta

Basically exactly what He said except for the cop part. He mentioned how he couldn’t live with himself if he took someone else’s life. Again. I stopped talking after He said that. No point.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 4:56:36 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Eye of Unk
America has a social disease, its called stupidity, its a weakness of the soul, its why so many millions supported an Islamofascist, its why so many are afraid to correct their mistakes.

100% agree. This is what is the greater danger to this country. Not a politician or leader, but the people that put them into office without thought.

20 posted on 04/13/2012 4:58:43 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: humblegunner; All; LucyT; maggief
...snappy original slogans.
Oh yeah...real original.

@Ten years after the Los Angeles Rebellion - No justice, no peace! April 26, 2001 (http://socialistworker.org)

Location, location, location!

Fools not realizing they're being led around by their nose rings.

21 posted on 04/13/2012 5:13:01 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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The LA Rebellion should serve as a reminder to the parasites at the top of society that ordinary people won't simply accept racism, police abuse and poverty. And it should be a reminder to our side of the potential for ordinary people to explode into action--behind the slogan: "No justice, no peace!"
22 posted on 04/13/2012 5:14:46 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: justice14

I had basically the same conversation with a woman at work, she a self-proclaimed pacifist.

I asked her is she would not defend her child against an attacker or rapist. She replied she could not live with herself if she hurt someone. I asked if she would allow me to adopt her child as she did not have enough intelligence to be a parent. We have not spoken since that conversation.

You are right: can’t fix stupid.


23 posted on 04/13/2012 5:31:01 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: RightOnline
Thanks for explaining it so truthfully.

I couldn't think of a post explaining the truth of the matter without running into "Comment #X removed by Moderator".

24 posted on 04/13/2012 5:36:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Tahoe3002

The more examples I hear, the more it confirms to me that the essence of liberalism is the attempt to affirm the lie of “I’m a good person”.

Nothing else, including common sense and reason, matter.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 5:40:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: humblegunner
A black is 39 times more likely to murder a white than vice-versa, which is why Defending Yourself While White should be a crime.
26 posted on 04/13/2012 5:49:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: trebb

Same way I managed to omit the word “hoodie”; it wasn’t easy.


27 posted on 04/13/2012 5:50:48 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: humblegunner

Jesse Jackson should know that we will not put up with young black men attacking us. Young black men should know what most of us know: you don’t pick a fight with someone who may have a knife or a gun. If Americans are not attacked, they will not be compelled to shoot, and everything will be happy and peaceful, and we can all get along.


28 posted on 04/13/2012 6:08:59 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: RightOnline

“Just because a large majority of those assuming room temperature as a result of ‘stand your ground’ and other similar laws are black does not mean these laws are inherently racist. It does signal those attempting to commit the crimes are predominantly black. These so-called ‘leaders’ should be more concerned with the staggeringly high numbers of violent crimes perpetrated by and on members of the black community, rather than the justifiable actions of property owners protecting life and limb.”..

If the “law breakers” (notice not a racist remark) would not be out of control or breaking the laws, the “SYG” would not be needed or an issue now, would it?


29 posted on 04/13/2012 6:10:57 AM PDT by Progov
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To: humblegunner; Mrs. P; Gosh I love this neighborhood
Jessie Jackass. What is alarming to me, are the number of men I have discussed “stand your ground” with that respond just like they were reading it from a teleprompter: “Nobody loves guns more than me, but the law is dangerous and wrong”. Some proclaim to be NRA members, and conservatives, but IMO they are sheep, listening to LSM BS and going right along with the flow. Arrogant jackasses too. It is ok for them to own and carry, but no one else is competent.
30 posted on 04/13/2012 6:12:52 AM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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To: humblegunner

Jesse says what we need here is a STAND STILL WHILE I ROB, BEAT OR KILL YOU Bill !


31 posted on 04/13/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Progov

How dare you actually apply “logic” to such an emotional, racially-charged issue???


32 posted on 04/13/2012 6:17:03 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: bigredkitty1

The problem we have is that a large portion of the black community tolerates a high level a violence, and a not inconsequential portion venerates it.

Until we face this forthrightly as a society, it will not change.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 6:18:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: humblegunner

What about ending thug violence, Je$$e?


34 posted on 04/13/2012 6:21:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: humblegunner

It appears they are trying to replicate every single condition of the 1970’s which led to two Reagan landslides.


35 posted on 04/13/2012 6:48:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FreedomPoster

It also helps to have real leaders, not race-baiting hustlers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.


36 posted on 04/13/2012 11:41:32 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: humblegunner
SYG serves only to make the state recognize citizens have the right to self-defense. Revoking SYG changes nothing: if he was in fact faced with being murdered, he had the right to stop that attack as he did, SYG law or not.
37 posted on 04/13/2012 11:54:15 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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