Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976, scientists say

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47031923/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.T4g6-1FWpu0 ^

[chessplayer]

New analysis of 36-year-old data, resuscitated from printouts, shows that NASA found life on Mars, an international team of mathematicians and scientists conclude in a paper published this week.

[chessplayer]

I never did accept the explanation that what Viking found was nothing more than non-life chemical reactions. Couple these new findings with the mystery of methane being constantly replenished on Mars, we now have two strong indicators that there is life on that planet.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091208132349.htm

[cripplecreek]

Gotta go deeper than a few inches.

[Lady Lucky]

Almost 40 years and now they tell us the stick turned pink.

[onedoug]

Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?

[Rich21IE]

Thanks for a good laugh: “an international team of mathematicians and scientists”, and as reported by MSNBC.

[eCSMaster]

I don't think the headline is quite correct.

Viking didn't find life on Mars.

But it is true that the experiments showed positive results.

They didn't see any little green (or orange, ...) things skipping by the cameras. They didn't find any living things.

But the experiments were positive ...

[FoxInSocks]

Almost 40 years and now they tell us the stick turned pink.

LOL

[JRios1968]

Gotta go deeper than a few inches

[from occupied ga]

New analysis of 36-year-old data, resuscitated from printouts, shows that NASA found life on Mars

Nonsense. I looked at those findings in Science at the time, and the reaction kinetics were indicative of a chemical reaction. The data don't rule out the possibility of some sort of bacterial life in the areas that have occasional brine seepage, but the Viking data don't support living reactions.

[Jeff Chandler]

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[TSgt]

Yeah and it gave birth...

[OldNavyVet]

Darwin should be beatified.

[Lee'sGhost]

LMAO!

[BitWielder1]

Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?

There *was* life 40 years ago but global warming wiped it out.
It existed for billions of years but could not survive the Bush administration.

[Gaffer]

Manufactured way of saying "We need more money".....The impact of not knowing this revelation hasn't changed anything. You simply cannot believe anything anyone who works for government says anymore, pure and simple.

[SC DOC]

Martian Elephant

[Lazamataz]

Gotta go deeper than a few inches.

Curiously, that's what women tell me.

[count-your-change]

The fellows crunched some numbers...they didn't fnd life.

[Yo-Yo]

Obligatory:

[TexasFreeper2009]

That’s what my wife always says ;)

[cripplecreek]

Martian monolith.

[Olog-hai]

You're upsetting her.

[oh8eleven]

Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976
Subhead - "NASA says they MUST re-investigate. Asks for another $9999999 billion."

[C210N]

Of course there is life on Mars... OURS! Sheila Jackson Lee told me so!!

[Bringbackthedraft]

Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976............................... After 976 years? It proves that Viking technology was ahead of its time. And you still do not believe my ancestors arrived in the great Ice Ship?

[Truth29]

"Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976 Subhead - "NASA says they MUST re-investigate. Asks for another $9999999 billion.""

Actually, with this Administration, the request for more $$$ would be for global warming and Muslim outreach. Can't have any real new frontier symbolism. Call the Russians.

[Theoria]

Japanese censured version.

[RightGeek]

[from occupied ga]

It existed for billions of years but could not survive the Bush administration

Nope it was SUV's that did it.

[chessplayer]

Manufactured way of saying “We need more money”.....The impact of not knowing this revelation hasn’t changed anything. You simply cannot believe anything anyone who works for government says anymore, pure and simple.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah,,,hippy, running dog, commie-pinko scientists, eh?

[chessplayer]

Subhead - “NASA says they MUST re-investigate. Asks for another $9999999 billion.”

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They know they don’t have a chance in hell of getting more money from libs or conservatives for ANY reason whatsoever, so why would they lie?

[Dutch Boy]

I just sprayed tea across my keyboard....

[Darteaus94025]

My understanding of the Scientific Method:

__Construct hypothesis.
__Design experiment to absolutely prove/disprove hypothesis:
____If results = x, hypothesis = true,
____If results = y, hypothesis = false.
__Run experiment.
__Publish results.
__Peer review of methodology.
__Peer replication of experiment validates/invalidates hypothesis or methodology.
__Hypothesis validation/invalidation accepted by scientific community.

The experiment on the Viking lander was designed to prove/disprove the existence of life on Mars. When the results met the criteria that would prove the existence of life, the peer review of the methodology decided that the results COULD be showing something else.

Conspiracy time:
1) So, after the experiment was conducted NASA decides to have best “experts” examine the methodology? Bad management or cover story?
2) In the next 36 years, they couldn’t have found the time/money/platform availability to send up the revised experiment? 36 consecutive years of bad management?

My theory: What is the upside/downside breakdown of being the President that breaks it to the world populace that life does exist on other planets? For a politician’s perspective: I see lots of potential downside, not a lot of upside.

[chessplayer]

Lets see,,,scientists are nothing but lying pigs trying to get more money with their latest statements about Mars but the NASA folk are as trustworthy as all get out about global warming.

“Hansen and Schmidt of NASA GISS under fire for climate stance (Letter to Bolden from NASA leaders)”

[bigfootbob]

Ditto, the only thing that would have made this better would have been a reference to a “seasoned producer.”

[Jack Hydrazine]

Have you heard about the monolith photographed on Mars?
http://news.yahoo.com/monolith-object-mars-could-call-214004772.html

[Buckeye McFrog]

Couple these new findings with the mystery of methane being constantly replenished on Mars, we now have two strong indicators that there is life on that planet.

and apparently it eats burritos...

[Jack Hydrazine]

Looks like lakes and bushes or trees to me!

[chessplayer]

When the results met the criteria that would prove the existence of life, the peer review of the methodology decided that the results COULD be showing something else.

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And the results COULD have actually been life. If whatever NASA says are lies just to get more money, it seems they would have lied in 1976 and said they DID find life. Much easier for them to get funding in the 1970’s.

[BitWielder1]

Nope it was SUV's that did it.

Yea, those big gas guzzling Mars Rovers.
What? They use solar panels? No gas? Really?
Well solar panels must be bad for the environment then.

[VRW Conspirator]

All your base belong to us.

[The Cajun]

There is a lot of BS on the subject, but there are a lot of pictures that make you think again.
Sometimes I think (tin foil hat on) NASA purposely never lands or plans to land at very interesting photographed anomalies on the surface.

[Gaffer]

Oldest trick in government agency, academic and defense contractor funding book....no thanks.

[6SJ7]

Paging Arthur C. Clark. (I’d never seen that monolith picture before. Interesting.)

[Jack Hydrazine]

But they photograph those anomalies anyway and just ignore any hubbub created about them. NASA knows there is life there but they aren’t going to admit it.

[upcountryhorseman]

I can remember, in the 1930’s, astronomers viewed ‘canals’
on Mars.

[upcountryhorseman]

I can remember, in the 1930’s, astronomers viewed ‘canals’
on Mars.

[KamperKen]

“There is a lot of BS on the subject, but there are a lot of pictures that make you think again”

I cannot agree more. NASA does seem to studiously avoid these areas for closer examination. There might be nothing there but it is worth taking a much closer look.

It’s interesting how the photographs from probes of the solar system planets have revealed some very intriguing structures that truly makes one wonder.

[UCANSEE2]

Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?

Well... there was this picture.

[dirtymac]

When I hear the term ‘Scientist’ I immediately go to my global warming fltering mechanism. Taht is to say I do not bleieve anything that ‘scientist’ say until it has been verified by people that do not have a stake in the game and are reliable.