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Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976, scientists say
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47031923/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.T4g6-1FWpu0 ^

Posted on 04/13/2012 7:55:36 AM PDT by chessplayer

New analysis of 36-year-old data, resuscitated from printouts, shows that NASA found life on Mars, an international team of mathematicians and scientists conclude in a paper published this week.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gilbertlevin; mars; nasa; panspermia; science; sourcetitlenoturl; viking; xplanets
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To: chessplayer

All your base belong to us.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 9:18:48 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Anybody who only hates a single subgroup of humanity isn’t paying attention. - Slings and Arrows)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There is a lot of BS on the subject, but there are a lot of pictures that make you think again.
Sometimes I think (tin foil hat on) NASA purposely never lands or plans to land at very interesting photographed anomalies on the surface.
42 posted on 04/13/2012 9:33:47 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: chessplayer

Oldest trick in government agency, academic and defense contractor funding book....no thanks.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cripplecreek

Paging Arthur C. Clark. (I’d never seen that monolith picture before. Interesting.)


44 posted on 04/13/2012 9:48:36 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: The Cajun

But they photograph those anomalies anyway and just ignore any hubbub created about them. NASA knows there is life there but they aren’t going to admit it.


45 posted on 04/13/2012 9:49:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: chessplayer

I can remember, in the 1930’s, astronomers viewed ‘canals’
on Mars.


46 posted on 04/13/2012 9:54:10 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: chessplayer

I can remember, in the 1930’s, astronomers viewed ‘canals’
on Mars.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 9:54:22 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: The Cajun

“There is a lot of BS on the subject, but there are a lot of pictures that make you think again”

I cannot agree more. NASA does seem to studiously avoid these areas for closer examination. There might be nothing there but it is worth taking a much closer look.

It’s interesting how the photographs from probes of the solar system planets have revealed some very intriguing structures that truly makes one wonder.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 9:59:54 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: onedoug
Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?

Well... there was this picture.


49 posted on 04/13/2012 10:00:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: chessplayer

When I hear the term ‘Scientist’ I immediately go to my global warming fltering mechanism. Taht is to say I do not bleieve anything that ‘scientist’ say until it has been verified by people that do not have a stake in the game and are reliable.


50 posted on 04/13/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country., Really! NOW!!!)
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To: Lady Lucky
"the stick turned pink."

Or the wabbit died...

(Haunting picture of the wabbit taken moments before his death)

51 posted on 04/13/2012 10:15:44 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: chessplayer

The reasoning is obvious. If there’s life there, we “dare not contaminate Mars with Earthly Life”.

i.e. No more Mars shots. . .


52 posted on 04/13/2012 10:35:27 AM PDT by Salgak (The Energizer Border: I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Salgak
If there’s life there, we “dare not contaminate Mars with Earthly Life”.

That is a responsible approach to exploration. Once we are sure what's there and how it will interact with Earth's many species, then we can start the Terraforming!

53 posted on 04/13/2012 11:08:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: onedoug

“Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?”

As far as I know all of the other probes did not have equipment or experiments to detect or analyze life. I have always wondered why that was.


54 posted on 04/13/2012 12:05:13 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: chessplayer

I think they are prepping us because they KNOW Curiosity is going to prove it.

If they can manage to land it, that is.

Pretty stupid to keep trying these new techniques when they have the perfect method by enclosing it in a bunch of balloons and have it bounce down, not touch down.
Especially when you are talking about a billion dollar plus piece of equipment.


55 posted on 04/13/2012 2:29:07 PM PDT by djf (If you are depressed all the time, at least you are never disappointed!)
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To: dirtymac

When I hear the term ‘Scientist’ I immediately go to my global warming fltering mechanism. Taht is to say I do not bleieve anything that ‘scientist’ say until it has been verified by people that do not have a stake in the game and are reliable.


EVERY scientist has a ‘stake’ in their field of study. Those studying diseases have a stake in finding cures for diseases. Seismologists have a stake in finding more accurate ways to predict an earthquake before it happens. Those who study volcanoes have a stake in finding a way to predict an eruption before it happens. Should we automatically throw out the window EVERYTHING scientists say because they have a ‘stake in the game’? Might as well shut down all scientific research altogether and let China dominate that, also.


56 posted on 04/13/2012 4:40:10 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: djf

I think they are prepping us because they KNOW Curiosity is going to prove it.

If they can manage to land it, that is.

Pretty stupid to keep trying these new techniques when they have the perfect method by enclosing it in a bunch of balloons and have it bounce down, not touch down.
Especially when you are talking about a billion dollar plus piece of equipment.


Curiosity is 5 times larger than the Spirit and Opportunity rovers.

As for weight:

Spirit Balloon Lander Rover - 408 lbs.

Viking Soft Lander - 1,270 lbs.

Curiosity Soft Lander - 1,984 lbs.

http://planetary.org/blog/article/00003271/

Curiosity is a T-Rex compared to the balloon landed rovers. I doubt they could make balloons for it strong enough that wouldn’t be ripped to shreds on impact.


57 posted on 04/13/2012 5:14:15 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: djf

I think they are prepping us because they KNOW Curiosity is going to prove it.


Curiosity is not designed to find life. Only Viking had instruments to detect actual life.


58 posted on 04/13/2012 5:24:24 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Couple these new findings with the mystery of methane being constantly replenished on Mars, we now have two strong indicators that there is life on that planet.

Where did you get the idea that methane is a positive indicator of living organisms? Some methane is produced by microbes, but the major portion is abiogenic. There are literally over a million tons of methane outgassing from the mantle of the earth every year. It didn't come from living organisms.
The major planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, have large amounts of methane and other hydrocarbon gases in their atmospheres. Titan, a large satellite of Saturn, has methane and ethane in its atmosphere, and these gases form clouds and behave much like water does in the atmosphere of the Earth. Triton, a large satellite of Neptune, appears to have hydrocarbons mixed with water ices on its surface, as does the outermost planet known at this time, Pluto.

59 posted on 04/13/2012 5:27:10 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Where did you get the idea that methane is a positive indicator of living organisms? Some methane is produced by microbes, but the major portion is abiogenic. There are literally over a million tons of methane outgassing from the mantle of the earth every year.


Because methane is a positive indicator of life. You just said it yourself. Yeah, there is a lot of methane outgassing from the earth’s mantle. The earth is a very active world. Lots of plate tectonics, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions. Aside from wind, Mars is a geologically dead planet. The last tectonics, Marsquakes, or volcanic eruptions happened millions of years ago.


60 posted on 04/14/2012 5:38:00 AM PDT by chessplayer
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