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Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976, scientists say
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47031923/ns/technology_and_science-science/#.T4g6-1FWpu0 ^

Posted on 04/13/2012 7:55:36 AM PDT by chessplayer

New analysis of 36-year-old data, resuscitated from printouts, shows that NASA found life on Mars, an international team of mathematicians and scientists conclude in a paper published this week.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gilbertlevin; mars; nasa; panspermia; science; sourcetitlenoturl; viking; xplanets
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I never did accept the explanation that what Viking found was nothing more than non-life chemical reactions. Couple these new findings with the mystery of methane being constantly replenished on Mars, we now have two strong indicators that there is life on that planet.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091208132349.htm

1 posted on 04/13/2012 7:55:46 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Gotta go deeper than a few inches.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 7:58:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: chessplayer

Almost 40 years and now they tell us the stick turned pink.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 7:59:43 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: chessplayer

Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?


4 posted on 04/13/2012 7:59:47 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: chessplayer

Thanks for a good laugh: “an international team of mathematicians and scientists”, and as reported by MSNBC.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 8:01:33 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: chessplayer
I don't think the headline is quite correct.

Viking didn't find life on Mars.

But it is true that the experiments showed positive results.

They didn't see any little green (or orange, ...) things skipping by the cameras. They didn't find any living things.

But the experiments were positive ...

6 posted on 04/13/2012 8:01:47 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: Lady Lucky
Almost 40 years and now they tell us the stick turned pink.

LOL

7 posted on 04/13/2012 8:02:06 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: cripplecreek
Gotta go deeper than a few inches


8 posted on 04/13/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: chessplayer
New analysis of 36-year-old data, resuscitated from printouts, shows that NASA found life on Mars

Nonsense. I looked at those findings in Science at the time, and the reaction kinetics were indicative of a chemical reaction. The data don't rule out the possibility of some sort of bacterial life in the areas that have occasional brine seepage, but the Viking data don't support living reactions.

9 posted on 04/13/2012 8:04:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: chessplayer
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10 posted on 04/13/2012 8:05:15 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Yeah and it gave birth...

11 posted on 04/13/2012 8:05:15 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: chessplayer

Darwin should be beatified.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 8:07:19 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: JRios1968

LMAO!


13 posted on 04/13/2012 8:08:36 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: onedoug
Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?

There *was* life 40 years ago but global warming wiped it out.
It existed for billions of years but could not survive the Bush administration.

14 posted on 04/13/2012 8:09:08 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Lady Lucky
Manufactured way of saying "We need more money".....The impact of not knowing this revelation hasn't changed anything. You simply cannot believe anything anyone who works for government says anymore, pure and simple.
15 posted on 04/13/2012 8:09:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: chessplayer
Martian Elephant
16 posted on 04/13/2012 8:11:27 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: cripplecreek
Gotta go deeper than a few inches.

Curiously, that's what women tell me.

17 posted on 04/13/2012 8:12:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: chessplayer
The fellows crunched some numbers...they didn't fnd life.
18 posted on 04/13/2012 8:12:35 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: chessplayer
Obligatory:


19 posted on 04/13/2012 8:13:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s what my wife always says ;)


20 posted on 04/13/2012 8:13:29 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: SC DOC
Martian monolith.

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21 posted on 04/13/2012 8:13:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
You're upsetting her.


22 posted on 04/13/2012 8:15:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: chessplayer
Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976
Subhead - "NASA says they MUST re-investigate. Asks for another $9999999 billion."
23 posted on 04/13/2012 8:15:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: chessplayer

Of course there is life on Mars... OURS! Sheila Jackson Lee told me so!!


24 posted on 04/13/2012 8:21:35 AM PDT by C210N (Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" mcRominate-me)
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To: chessplayer

Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976............................... After 976 years? It proves that Viking technology was ahead of its time. And you still do not believe my ancestors arrived in the great Ice Ship?


25 posted on 04/13/2012 8:24:05 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: oh8eleven
"Viking robots found life on Mars in 1976 Subhead - "NASA says they MUST re-investigate. Asks for another $9999999 billion.""

Actually, with this Administration, the request for more $$$ would be for global warming and Muslim outreach. Can't have any real new frontier symbolism. Call the Russians.

26 posted on 04/13/2012 8:26:31 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: cripplecreek
Japanese censured version.


27 posted on 04/13/2012 8:31:48 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: chessplayer

28 posted on 04/13/2012 8:32:30 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: BitWielder1
It existed for billions of years but could not survive the Bush administration

Nope it was SUV's that did it.

29 posted on 04/13/2012 8:33:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Gaffer

Manufactured way of saying “We need more money”.....The impact of not knowing this revelation hasn’t changed anything. You simply cannot believe anything anyone who works for government says anymore, pure and simple.


Yeah, yeah, yeah,,,hippy, running dog, commie-pinko scientists, eh?


30 posted on 04/13/2012 8:37:35 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: oh8eleven

Subhead - “NASA says they MUST re-investigate. Asks for another $9999999 billion.”


They know they don’t have a chance in hell of getting more money from libs or conservatives for ANY reason whatsoever, so why would they lie?


31 posted on 04/13/2012 8:42:24 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Lady Lucky

I just sprayed tea across my keyboard....


32 posted on 04/13/2012 8:51:17 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: eCSMaster

My understanding of the Scientific Method:

__Construct hypothesis.
__Design experiment to absolutely prove/disprove hypothesis:
____If results = x, hypothesis = true,
____If results = y, hypothesis = false.
__Run experiment.
__Publish results.
__Peer review of methodology.
__Peer replication of experiment validates/invalidates hypothesis or methodology.
__Hypothesis validation/invalidation accepted by scientific community.

The experiment on the Viking lander was designed to prove/disprove the existence of life on Mars. When the results met the criteria that would prove the existence of life, the peer review of the methodology decided that the results COULD be showing something else.

Conspiracy time:
1) So, after the experiment was conducted NASA decides to have best “experts” examine the methodology? Bad management or cover story?
2) In the next 36 years, they couldn’t have found the time/money/platform availability to send up the revised experiment? 36 consecutive years of bad management?

My theory: What is the upside/downside breakdown of being the President that breaks it to the world populace that life does exist on other planets? For a politician’s perspective: I see lots of potential downside, not a lot of upside.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 8:51:33 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: chessplayer

Lets see,,,scientists are nothing but lying pigs trying to get more money with their latest statements about Mars but the NASA folk are as trustworthy as all get out about global warming.

“Hansen and Schmidt of NASA GISS under fire for climate stance (Letter to Bolden from NASA leaders)”


34 posted on 04/13/2012 8:56:28 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Rich21IE

Ditto, the only thing that would have made this better would have been a reference to a “seasoned producer.”


35 posted on 04/13/2012 9:03:54 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: chessplayer

Have you heard about the monolith photographed on Mars?
http://news.yahoo.com/monolith-object-mars-could-call-214004772.html


36 posted on 04/13/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: chessplayer
Couple these new findings with the mystery of methane being constantly replenished on Mars, we now have two strong indicators that there is life on that planet.

and apparently it eats burritos...
37 posted on 04/13/2012 9:08:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: chessplayer
Looks like lakes and bushes or trees to me!







38 posted on 04/13/2012 9:14:10 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Darteaus94025

When the results met the criteria that would prove the existence of life, the peer review of the methodology decided that the results COULD be showing something else.


And the results COULD have actually been life. If whatever NASA says are lies just to get more money, it seems they would have lied in 1976 and said they DID find life. Much easier for them to get funding in the 1970’s.


39 posted on 04/13/2012 9:15:11 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: from occupied ga
Nope it was SUV's that did it.

Yea, those big gas guzzling Mars Rovers.
What? They use solar panels? No gas? Really?
Well solar panels must be bad for the environment then.

40 posted on 04/13/2012 9:16:45 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: chessplayer

All your base belong to us.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 9:18:48 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Anybody who only hates a single subgroup of humanity isn’t paying attention. - Slings and Arrows)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There is a lot of BS on the subject, but there are a lot of pictures that make you think again.
Sometimes I think (tin foil hat on) NASA purposely never lands or plans to land at very interesting photographed anomalies on the surface.
42 posted on 04/13/2012 9:33:47 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: chessplayer

Oldest trick in government agency, academic and defense contractor funding book....no thanks.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cripplecreek

Paging Arthur C. Clark. (I’d never seen that monolith picture before. Interesting.)


44 posted on 04/13/2012 9:48:36 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: The Cajun

But they photograph those anomalies anyway and just ignore any hubbub created about them. NASA knows there is life there but they aren’t going to admit it.


45 posted on 04/13/2012 9:49:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: chessplayer

I can remember, in the 1930’s, astronomers viewed ‘canals’
on Mars.


46 posted on 04/13/2012 9:54:10 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: chessplayer

I can remember, in the 1930’s, astronomers viewed ‘canals’
on Mars.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 9:54:22 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: The Cajun

“There is a lot of BS on the subject, but there are a lot of pictures that make you think again”

I cannot agree more. NASA does seem to studiously avoid these areas for closer examination. There might be nothing there but it is worth taking a much closer look.

It’s interesting how the photographs from probes of the solar system planets have revealed some very intriguing structures that truly makes one wonder.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 9:59:54 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: onedoug
Numerous other probes have ranged out on Mars. What do scientists says of their findings?

Well... there was this picture.


49 posted on 04/13/2012 10:00:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: chessplayer

When I hear the term ‘Scientist’ I immediately go to my global warming fltering mechanism. Taht is to say I do not bleieve anything that ‘scientist’ say until it has been verified by people that do not have a stake in the game and are reliable.


50 posted on 04/13/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country., Really! NOW!!!)
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