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Remington responds to NBC hit piece
Daily Caller ^ | 12 April 2012 | unattributed

Posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:38 AM PDT by smokingfrog

From Remington Arms to The Daily Caller

NBC continues to attack Remington and the firearms industry through sensational and factually inaccurate reporting. On April 11, 2012, Brian Williams again demonstrated NBC’s anti-gun agenda with the claim that the Model 870, Model 1100 and other Remington firearms have a design flaw. That claim is demonstrably false and Remington stands fully behind the safety and reliability of the most popular shotguns in the world.

It wasn’t enough for NBC to attack over 20 million Remington firearms; they also called the Second Amendment into question by suggesting that there is a need for increased government regulation of firearms.

Model 870 and 1100 owners know the truth – these shotguns are used extensively under the most demanding conditions. Tens of billions of rounds have been fired through these firearms, which are valued for their performance and durability by millions of hunters, shooters, law enforcement and military personnel who have relied on Remington.

As the basis for its attacks, NBC continues to rely upon paid “experts” who have been repeatedly hired by plaintiff’s attorneys to testify against Remington and at least 16 other firearms manufacturers. The facts show that the Model 870 and 1100 are two of the most reliable shotguns ever produced – only one lawsuit has been filed in the last seven years and no litigation is pending against the trigger mechanisms of these firearms.

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Don’t Rely on Your Gun’s Safety.

Treat every gun as if it can fire at any time, whether or not there’s pressure on the trigger. Your firearm has been carefully designed to maximize performance and safety. However, because a gun’s safety is a mechanical device, it could fail.

Human error is a more likely reason for a gun safety to fail. By mistake, you may think the safety is on when it really isn’t. Or the safety may have been disengaged without your knowledge. Or you could think your gun is unloaded when there’s actually a cartridge or shell in it. A mechanical safety is not a substitute for common sense. It’s merely a supplement to your proper handling of a firearm.

Never touch the trigger on a firearm until you are ready to shoot. Keep your fingers away from the trigger when you’re loading or unloading. And don’t pull the trigger when the safety is engaged or positioned between safe and fire.

Before using your gun, read this instruction book to understand the exact location and operation of your firearm’s safety. Even when the safety is on, maintain control of your loaded firearm and control the direction of the muzzle. In other words, don’t rely on your safety to justify careless handling. If your firearm’s internal mechanisms are broken or have been altered, your firearm may fire even when the safety is on. Remember, you and your safe gun handling practices are your gun’s best safety.

1 posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:47 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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www.RespectRemington.tv

Any FReepers ever have a problem with their Remington shotgun safety?

2 posted on 04/13/2012 8:42:06 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Don’t forget - NBC is the outfit that edited the George Zimmerman 911 tape to make him sound bad, and also sabotaged the pickup truck to make it “spontaneously” explode on command.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: smokingfrog
I'm surprised they didn't load one up with dynamite and blow it up.
4 posted on 04/13/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: smokingfrog

All guns are always loaded.
Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

—Jeff Cooper[1]


5 posted on 04/13/2012 8:44:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: smokingfrog

The best fix for a Remington 870 is a Mossberg 590A1.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 8:47:10 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: smokingfrog

> Any FReepers ever have a problem with their Remington shotgun safety?

Personally, I dislike the trigger guard safety on my 870. I’ve missed more than a few good shots at foxes and other predators, because I just grab the gun chamber a round aim and pull the trigger, which doesn’t fire, because I forgot to push the bloody safety button.

I like the tang safety on my Mossberg MUCH better. It’s right where I can see it, and I can always tell when it’s on or off.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 8:47:14 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: smokingfrog

No problems with a Remington because we only have a couple Mossbergs and a Benelli.


8 posted on 04/13/2012 8:47:22 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: smokingfrog

How long has the Remington 870 been used? 100 years?

By the Marines, FBI, etc?


9 posted on 04/13/2012 8:47:43 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: smokingfrog
Any FReepers ever have a problem with their Remington shotgun safety?

Nope. Never. My Remington 870 Wingmaster is the best shotgun I've ever owned.

10 posted on 04/13/2012 8:49:47 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: smokingfrog
Any FReepers ever have a problem with their Remington shotgun safety?

Yeah, I have a problem! I have to pay a friggin $200.00 NFA TAX STAMP to make it a short barrel shotgun!

11 posted on 04/13/2012 8:49:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Tagline removed at the request of someone who doesn't "get" Monty Python or Shakespeare.)
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To: Jewbacca

I never use the safety on my 870 or any other firearm because I NEVER have a round in the chamber until I am ready to shoot.

And remarkably, in 45 years of shooting, I have never had a gun go off accidentally.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 8:53:02 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: smokingfrog

NBC, long ago, ceased to be a serious and honest reporter of news. Who watches Brian “Makes Ted Baxter look like a MENSA member” Williams? They are the worst of a pathetic few.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 8:54:06 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Westbrook

I like the tang safety too but overall the Remington 870 is probably the best pump shotgun ever made.

BTW, the Mossberg safety used to break so often, our local dealer always kept a large supply of replacements on hand.

I am sure Mossberg has corrected the problem by now but it never should have happened in the first place.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 8:54:27 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: shelterguy

This is exactly how I operate my guns and no problem. If I need to shoot something the last thing I want to worry about is fumbling around with the safety.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 8:59:11 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Goldsborough
L☺L
16 posted on 04/13/2012 8:59:57 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Nope, my Remington 870 has never failed me, never misfed, never had a trigger issue. In addition to hunting, it’s my home defense weapon. You don’t make firearms like the 870 for as long as Remington has if there was a design flaw. The flaw is the human operators who don’t respect the firearm or don’t practice safe handling rules.


17 posted on 04/13/2012 9:01:21 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: smokingfrog

I have 1187, 1100 and 3 870’s. Never a problem. Use the 1187 for sporting clays, trap and hunting, over 60,000 rounds..not a problem. Had to replace the o-rings a couple of times but not a problem.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 9:01:37 AM PDT by Pafreedom
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To: Jeff Chandler

fact: more people are killed by empty guns than loaded ones ( I didn’t know it was loaded )... the firearm is ALWAYS loded until you verify it for yourself..


19 posted on 04/13/2012 9:02:54 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: LeonardFMason

I actually try to watch Brian Williams a couple times a week, just to keep up on his bias, how he turns things around, turns every event into some historic tragedy. I would not watch if my children were young and lived at home, because I am known to yell at the TV when he’s on, and the language is not something for children to hear. But since MANY people are likely to watch NBC news, I like to keep track of the twists and turns in their “journalism”.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 9:04:23 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: smokingfrog

I do not like the location of it on my 870 but it has always worked.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 9:04:52 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: LoneStarGI

bttt


22 posted on 04/13/2012 9:05:44 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: smokingfrog

No issues with my 870 Folder. . .


23 posted on 04/13/2012 9:07:15 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: smokingfrog
Full Buckeye Firearms Association article on the BS NBC "report" on Remington shotguns.

"In Wednesday's report, NBC began their lengthy report on Remington's allegedly faulty trigger system with a question: 'Is there a design defect....?' Starting a report with a question can be used to introduce something innocuous or to help "shape" a conclusion."

Is Brian Williams a pedophile?

24 posted on 04/13/2012 9:07:33 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: smokingfrog
Brian Williams and NBC, ROTFLMAO!

Nuff said about their views on anything, especially firearms.

25 posted on 04/13/2012 9:11:29 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: MeganC

No problems with a Remington because we only have a couple Mossbergs and a Benelli.

Boy talk about both ends of the spectrum


26 posted on 04/13/2012 9:12:54 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: smokingfrog

I’ve never had one issue. I use the 20 gauge 870 Wingmaster pump for clay pigeons and dove hunting, and after 25 years of use it still shoots like it just came out of the box. I have another that I will simply say is “modified to my specs” for home defense, and while not used as often as my other guns, it also performs perfectly.


27 posted on 04/13/2012 9:14:01 AM PDT by roostercashews
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To: DuncanWaring
Don’t forget - NBC is the outfit that edited the George Zimmerman 911 tape to make him sound bad, and also sabotaged the pickup truck to make it “spontaneously” explode on command.


28 posted on 04/13/2012 9:14:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: smokingfrog

I’d guess I’ve fired 1000 shells through my 870. Never once had any kind of a problem with it.


29 posted on 04/13/2012 9:15:05 AM PDT by Lucas McCain (Santorum sucks)
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To: smokingfrog

Thanks for the post. It led me to the Daily Caller website and then to their “Guns and Gear” section - which is loaded with pistol and rifle reviews as well as other gun-related articles. Worth a look for those of you, like I was, who were unaware of this feature.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 9:15:24 AM PDT by Donkey Odious (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Pafreedom

I’ve used a remington 870 Wingmaster for over 40 years and never, never had any problems...In fact, the action of pumping a shell into the chamber instead of an autoloader has probably saved me many boxes of shells in all my years of dove shooting...That little action has prevented me from wasting another shot on a missed bird....


31 posted on 04/13/2012 9:17:36 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: smokingfrog

I thought it was the model 700 rifle with the reliability issues that the media talked about in the past. The 870 is probably one of the best for the money made. Law enforcement and hunters have relied on it in various formats for decades.


32 posted on 04/13/2012 9:18:09 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: smokingfrog

There is only one ‘problem’ with Remington shotguns like the 1100 eries, they have steel receivers so they’re heavier than the aluminium ones. Some see that as a plus because we have so many interesting higher pressure shotgun rounds now available for ‘social work’. [BTW, I could use a few reccommendations on a semi auot 20 gague since I’m in the market for one unless I can find a recoil reduced 12 gauge semi.]


33 posted on 04/13/2012 9:20:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Is Brian Williams a pedophile?

Assuredly! Brian Williams cannot proved that he has never looked at a child before. Without being able to read his mind as he looked, we must conclude he is a pedophile. Ergo, he has a 'design' defect.

34 posted on 04/13/2012 9:20:38 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: smokingfrog

There is only one ‘problem’ with Remington shotguns like the 1100 eries, they have steel receivers so they’re heavier than the aluminium ones. Some see that as a plus because we have so many interesting higher pressure shotgun rounds now available for ‘social work’. [BTW, I could use a few reccommendations on a semi auot 20 gauge since I’m in the market for one unless I can find a recoil reduced 12 gauge semi.]


35 posted on 04/13/2012 9:20:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: smokingfrog

I have a Remington 870 and an 1100, both 12ga. and have never had a problem with either. I also have a Remington 552 .22cal. semi-auto rifle and a model 700 30/06 bolt action rifle and I’ve never had a problem with them either.

I do have a Remington 1858 New Army .44cal. revolver that one of my relatives brought hom from the “War Against Northern Agression” that has a few problems but they only make it more “safe.”


36 posted on 04/13/2012 9:21:36 AM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: DuncanWaring

Brian Williams and the whole NBC “news” team has been parroting the Obama line since Obama first ran in 2008. I watch the NBC news only because old Dianne on ABC is worse. I see the lies as like a lot of we who are aware, I get real news on the world and politics from other sources and the Internet. Pity the fools in America that don’t know the truth and lap up the mess the main stream media shovel out.


37 posted on 04/13/2012 9:23:44 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: smokingfrog

I have an 870 and a 30-06 model 700, both left-handed. I like Remington because they are accurate, reliable and produced in left-handed versions. I’ve had the 870 for 30 years and even though the safety is built opposite it’s right hand counterpart, it has never been a problem.


38 posted on 04/13/2012 9:32:43 AM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: MachIV
It was the 700 trigger. And it is a real issue, but most often when someone messes with the trigger.

I have seen two rifles that would fire when the safety was switched off. Both were 700’s, and both had the issue NBC and others described.

39 posted on 04/13/2012 9:32:52 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: smokingfrog

I have a Remington, Mossberg and Winchester shotgun and to be honest the best damn one of them is my 1940 something old Model 97 Winchester.

I’m a hammer man, have been since I was a kid and probably always will be. Use it almost exclusively for hunting and I’ve never, ever had a problem with it after thousands of rounds I’ve put through it almost my whole adult life.

Plus there’s the added bonus of using it as the first line in my home defense strategy - that being the incredible sound it makes chambering a round at night when you think someone might be hanging about you want to run.

No other gun quite makes the same series of clicks and clanks with that final loud “chink” at the end. I swear it would make a great doorbell ringer too, get rid of pesky salesman in a hurry I bet...


40 posted on 04/13/2012 9:37:33 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: duffee

No safety or other problems with my left-hand model 700 30-06 either. It’s a beautiful weapon and delivers nice tight groups.


41 posted on 04/13/2012 9:39:38 AM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: smokingfrog

NBC has been lying to the American public and “doctoring” its so-called “news” for years. They have absolutely no credebility whatsoever. No one with any more brains that a snail believes their “pinko” slant on events. Eventually, they will go the way of the dinasours.


42 posted on 04/13/2012 9:41:58 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: smokingfrog

I’ve relied on the 870 for close to 40 years. It has never failed me. NBC failed a long time ago.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 9:47:34 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: smokingfrog

So, the lefties want to destroy Remington or at least ruin their value. One reason may be that George Sorryass would love to buy it (along with all the other firearm companies he’s purchased).


44 posted on 04/13/2012 9:48:04 AM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: MHGinTN

I believe Browning and Remington both have new low-recoil 12ga. semi-auto shotguns, of course now all firearms are pricey. I paid full retail for my Browning light 12, vented rib, $187.50 and my Remington 870, $119.00.


45 posted on 04/13/2012 10:00:44 AM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: smokingfrog
Model 870, Model 1100 and other Remington firearms have a design flaw.

Yes I've seen the NBC video.. when you attach a cherry bomb to this model and light the cherry bomb it explodes! Yes a dangerous flaw and this model should be banned.

46 posted on 04/13/2012 10:11:53 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: smokingfrog

My old Remington pump has been through more than anyone could reasonably expect a firearm to go through, and it still works perfect. It was my constant companion for years of trekking through the wilderness. It’s been beaten up by brush, rocks, falls, pack saddles, backpacks, rain, sleet, snow, dirt, rivers and countless rounds of heavy loads. I would trust my life to it in a heartbeat.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 10:12:21 AM PDT by pallis
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To: smokingfrog

My brother had a Remington pump 20g that blew a hole in the floorboard of a cousins truck.

He wouldn’t touch a gun for years afterwards!

The people who think this isn’t real just haven’t experienced it yet and I hope you never do!

It brings the maxim about pointing guns in a safe direction to a whole new level.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 10:15:06 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wasn’t NBC the “news organization” that rigged a pickup truck test some years ago to show how easily the vehicle caught on fire? Or was that their co-conspirator, CBS?


49 posted on 04/13/2012 10:30:18 AM PDT by Pecos (In God we trust. All others - bring data.)
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To: Westbrook
Personally, I dislike the trigger guard safety on my 870.

That makes two of us. Too hard to reach when you need the safety off RIGHT NOW. The Mossberg's tang safety is much better, at least with a non-pistol grip stock.

50 posted on 04/13/2012 10:33:34 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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