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Romney to Woo Conservatives at NRA Event
Time ^ | April 13, 2012 | CHARLES BABINGTON

Posted on 04/13/2012 9:23:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

ST. LOUIS) — Mitt Romney's speech to the National Rifle Association is a high-profile chance for the Republican presidential candidate to woo conservatives who have viewed him warily for years.

The address on Friday in St. Louis also comes at a moment of heightened national concern about gun use because of the explosive Florida case in which a neighborhood watch volunteer fatally shot an unarmed teenager. The NRA strongly backed Florida's "stand your ground" law, which is at the heart of the unfolding legal matter.

It won't be the first time Romney has had to walk a careful line between appealing to conservatives, who form his party's base, and trying not to alarm independents, who will be crucial in the fall campaign against President Barack Obama.

Few conservative groups have a bigger name or broader network than the NRA. Thousands of members are filling St. Louis hotels and sidewalks this weekend for an annual convention that offers "over seven acres of guns, gear and outfitters."

The NRA is so vital to Republican politicians that Rick Santorum, who suspended his presidential candidacy Tuesday, is keeping his appointment to speak just after Romney on Friday. Others scheduled to speak at the "leadership forum" include presidential candidate Newt Gingrich, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

Romney has an uneasy relationship with gun owners. "I don't line up with the NRA," he said when he tried to oust Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in Massachusetts in 1994.....

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; conservatism; gopprimary; guns
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1 posted on 04/13/2012 9:23:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Woo? Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 04/13/2012 9:29:32 AM PDT by goseminoles
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......."Congressional hopeful Ann Wagner, who keeps several guns at her Ballwin home, said she is confident that Romney will be able to connect with gun owners at the convention Friday. The key? Authenticity, she said -- which rivals and even some supporters might say is not Romney's strongest attribute. "You don't have to pack a gun to support the Second Amendment," Wagner said. "You have to be who you are. The key to actually connecting to people is not trying to be something you're not." Romney will try to connect at NRA convention

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And Mitt Romney is trying to be something he isn't -- and the conservative base knows it.

3 posted on 04/13/2012 9:30:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I bet liberal David Keene, former chairman of the American Conservative Union and current president of the NRA, who let GOP Proud into CPAC, is salivating over Romney.

Palin rebuffs CPAC, Keene

4 posted on 04/13/2012 9:30:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If this guy wins we’re going to have our work cut out for us.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 9:31:07 AM PDT by marron
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Squib ...


6 posted on 04/13/2012 9:34:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Before this transformation is over Mittens will Sgt York myself.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 9:34:36 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (If Romney needs my vote to win Mississippi, he is in a heck of a lot trouble more than me.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Democrat running as a Republican is in St. Louis, today?

I’m an NRA Life Member, but sorry, I’m going to the World Champion St. Louis Cardinals’ Home Opener.

Now, if it were Sarah, Newt or one of the Ricks......


8 posted on 04/13/2012 9:35:35 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney is a big phony and I am right on the verge of supporting Gingrich as a last ditch effort to fix his wagon prior to Tampa, if at all anything can be done about it.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 9:36:27 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Oh, well. SEE YOU IN THE CAMPS. (Hope your forearm tatoo doesnt hurt too much)....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney on Guns: In His Own Words

http://youtu.be/TYWDWRmz-_o


10 posted on 04/13/2012 9:37:48 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: marron; goseminoles; All
C-SPAN Live NRA coverage begins at 2PM EST

"LIVE National Rifle Association (NRA) 2p Annual Meeting Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum Speakers: Chris Cox, NRA Institute for Legislative Action executive director, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO), John Bolton, Former US Ambassador to UN, Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI), Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La), Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va) Majority Leader, Wayne LaPierre, NRA Vice President, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), Oversight & Government Reform Cmte. Chairman, Oliver North Ken Blackwell, former Ohio Secretary of State, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Judiciary Cmte. Ranking Member, and Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)"

11 posted on 04/13/2012 9:38:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Romney on Gun Control

http://youtu.be/bj8Nk3p1wyY


12 posted on 04/13/2012 9:40:58 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wonder if this clown is going to show up in hunting gear and say he *wants him a hunting license* like John Kerry did years ago during his campaign?

Stinking northeast liberals both!

13 posted on 04/13/2012 9:42:23 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TitansAFC; onyx; LuvFreeRepublic; Sea Parrot; SweetCaroline; matthew fuller; ...

“I am right on the verge of supporting Gingrich”

We ALL have to put money where the mouth is. Against all odds, against the GOP elite, the pseudo-conservative media and pundits. Newt needs NOW all the help he can get.

Please consider a secure contribution to the campaign to help guarantee that Newt has the resources to spread his vision for America.

https://www.newt.org/donate/

Also visit his Facebook page and click on “LIKE”:

http://www.facebook.com/newtgingrich

and on Twitter

http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=newtgingrich


14 posted on 04/13/2012 9:57:27 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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Newt Gingrich to Speak at the NRA’s Celebration of American Values Conference

Friday, April 13 – 2pm – 2:15pm ET

15 posted on 04/13/2012 10:00:41 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Again?
Bah!


16 posted on 04/13/2012 10:02:52 AM PDT by HiJinx
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All should watch the last year speech Newt made at NRA - it is AWESOME

2011 NRA Annual Meetings - Newt Gingrich - Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum

http://youtu.be/_aMNzrPovu8


17 posted on 04/13/2012 10:03:42 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This thread has just added to the FreeRepublic "bang list" (firearms interest list) by adding the keyword "banglist".

Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

Let Freedom Ring,

Gun Facts v6!

Click the pic to go to the Gun Facts v6 download page!

18 posted on 04/13/2012 10:10:07 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Marguerite
NEWT speaks - Friday, April 13 – 2pm – 2:15pm ET

Thank you for the schedule!

19 posted on 04/13/2012 10:10:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Joe Brower

Thanks Joe.

“banglist!”

Got it.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 10:12:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Romney has an uneasy relationship with gun owners.”

Signing assault weapons bans into law generally has that effect.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 10:20:28 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gun grabber Mitt Romney exposed. - Romney investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHcPhOSHOy4

Mitt “Willard” Romney - The Anti-Gun Rat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apl75FDzb9o

Romney on Guns: In His Own Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYWDWRmz-_o


22 posted on 04/13/2012 10:20:44 AM PDT by Mozilla (GOP is going the way of the Whigs)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney to WFooL Conservatives at NRA Event.

Fixed.

23 posted on 04/13/2012 10:21:24 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wanted to add this to Romney's record: Romney 2004 press release signing off on an assault weapons ban in Massachusetts:


24 posted on 04/13/2012 10:31:08 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: EyeGuy

“Now, if it were Sarah, Newt or one of the Ricks......”

Both Ricks and Newt will also speak today.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 10:33:14 AM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
"After THIS, for my next act?"

I will part the Red Sea as soon as my beard grows in!"

26 posted on 04/13/2012 10:38:03 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; GenXteacher

““Romney has an uneasy relationship with gun owners.”

Signing assault weapons bans into law generally has that effect.”

The Second Amendment doesn’t say which kind of arms are allowed but only: “THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS will NOT be infringed”.

So when Romney says he supports it, while he put a ban on arms, he’s lying through his teeth!


27 posted on 04/13/2012 10:40:38 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: duffee

LIVE National Rifle Association (NRA)
2p Annual Meeting
Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum

Speakers:

Chris Cox, NRA Institute for Legislative Action executive director Mitt Romney Rick Santorum Newt Gingrich Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO) John Bolton, Former US Ambassador to UN Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La) Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va), Majority Leader Wayne LaPierre, NRA Vice President Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), Oversight & Government Reform Cmte. Chairman Oliver North Ken Blackwell, former Ohio Secretary of State Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Judiciary Cmte. Ranking Member Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/305367-1


28 posted on 04/13/2012 10:43:37 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"You don't have to pack a gun to support the Second Amendment," Wagner said. "You have to be who you are. The key to actually connecting to people is not trying to be something you're not."

"The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.. if you can fake that, you've got it made."
~ Groucho Marx


29 posted on 04/13/2012 10:47:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It’s over. And it’s over in no small part to the man you are now pondering supporting to stop Romney.

I don’t disrespect your motives, trying to stop Romney, but I’m less than enthusiastic to fall in behind a guy who knew he couldn’t win, and refused to help someone else do so at Romney’s expense.

We’re now stuck with Romney, but at least Newt’s followers can admire him for staying in, and being ‘the man’...

LOL, what passes for manhood these days.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 11:02:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: DoughtyOne; AmericanInTokyo; All

The primaries aren’t even over yet.

I’m still supporting Newt, because Romney is as bad as Obama.


31 posted on 04/13/2012 11:21:53 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Gingrich has as much chance of fixing Romney’s wagon as the Astros do of winning the World Series.


32 posted on 04/13/2012 11:40:28 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is he going to read his speech from a teleprompter or from an Etch A Sketch?


33 posted on 04/13/2012 11:41:11 AM PDT by Only Sane Man
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mutt is a phony. I will never trust him.


34 posted on 04/13/2012 11:47:00 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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ROMNEY ON C-SPAN AT NRA RIGHT NOW.


35 posted on 04/13/2012 11:53:10 AM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Marcella
Oh, would that there were one person (or more)with the courage of conservative convictions to stand during Mittens speech, say, "You sir, are no conservative" and then turn their back on him and just stand there.

Either he'd be joined by others or escorted out on his a$$, but either way, it'd make a helluva statement on the evening news.

36 posted on 04/13/2012 11:59:52 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: redinIllinois; AmericanInTokyo; All
The primaries aren’t even over yet. I’m still supporting Newt, because Romney is as bad as Obama.

I don't disagree with your desires and opinion of Romney/Obama, but the damage has already been done.

Santorum couldn't get funding at his level. Newt hasn't been able to at his.

It sticks in my craw as much as it does yours, but we're stuck with Romney.

Now lets see if the RNC, and the darlings Carl Rove and Andrew Card can get him elected.

37 posted on 04/13/2012 12:04:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Carl Rove, and Andrew Card can get him elected.)
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To: Axeslinger

Damn right!


38 posted on 04/13/2012 12:06:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Carl Rove, and Andrew Card can get him elected.)
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To: The Cajun

More like, “I’m Mitt Romney, and I’m reporting for duty!”


39 posted on 04/13/2012 12:09:05 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney signs off on permanent assault weapons ban

"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts," Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1..."These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

"A well regulated Militia, being NECESSARY to the security of a free State, the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT be infringed."

-- The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

40 posted on 04/13/2012 12:13:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Axeslinger

The Founders on The Right to Keep and Bear Arms

SAMUEL ADAMS:

“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. … it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defense of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.” – The Rights of the Colonists (November 20, 1772)

“The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them.” – Debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (February 6, 1788)

“The Militia is composed of free citizens. There is therefore no danger of their making use of their power to the destruction of their own Rights, or suffering others to invade them.”

“... whereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...” – Constitutional Debates of the Massachusetts Convention of 1788 (also attributed to A Federal Farmer, the anti-federalist)

GEORGE WASHINGTON:

“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace. A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.” – First Annual Message to Congress; Federal Hall, New York City (January 8, 1790)

THOMAS JEFFERSON:

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity...will respect the less important and arbitrary ones... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants, they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – quoted from Enlightenment philosopher Cesare Beccaria’s On Crimes and Punishment, 1764; translated by Jefferson and copied into his Commonplace Book of great quotations.

“No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms [within his own lands or tenements].” – Draft Constitution for Virginia; June 13, 1776 (brackets in Jefferson’s original)

“Every able bodied freeman, between the ages of 16 and 50, is enrolled in the militia. … The law requires every militia-man to provide himself with the arms usual in the regular service.” – Notes on the State of Virginia, written by Jefferson, published in 1781, updated in 1782

“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.” – letter to nephew Peter Carr (August 19, 1785)

“What country before, every existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that his people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. … What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” – letter to Colonel William S. Smith, Paris (November 13, 1787)

“I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.” – letter to Giovanni Fabbroni (June 8, 1788)

“…the governor [is] constitutionally the commander of the militia of the State, that is to say, of every man in it able to bear arms…”. – letter to Destutt de Tracy (January 26, 1811)

“On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – letter to William Johnson (June 12, 1823)

“The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, (as in electing their functionaries executive and legislative, and deciding by a jury of themselves, in all judiciary cases in which any fact is involved) or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.” – letter to Major John Cartwright (June 5, 1824)

THOMAS PAINE:

“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them …”. – Thoughts On Defensive War, 1775

“...in this country, every man is a militia-man...”. – The American Crisis series, # 9, dated June 9, 1780

PATRICK HENRY:

“...who are the militia, if they be not the people of this country...? I ask, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.”

“No free government was ever founded or ever preserved its liberty, without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for the defense of the state.... Such are a well regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen.”

“The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.” – from debates during the Constitutional convention (later quoted with approval by George Washington), as quoted in Elliot’s Debates, 1836

“That the people have a Right to mass and to bear arms; that a well regulated militia composed of the Body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper natural and safe defense of a free state...”

“Have we no means of resisting disciplined armies, when our only defense, the militia, is put in the hands of Congress? Of what service would the militia be to you when, most probably, you will not have a single musket in the state? For, as arms are to be provided by Congress, they may or may not provide them.”

“They tell us, Sir, that we are weak...but when shall we be stronger? Will it be when we are totally disarmed?

Three millions of People, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.” – The War Inevitable; speech to the Virginia assembly, March, 1775

“...a well regulated militia, composed of gentlemen and yeomen, is the natural strength and only security of a free government.”

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.” (in the Virginia ratifying convention)

JOHN ADAMS:

“To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense...is a dissolution of the government.” – A Defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the United States of America, 1788, questioning the utility of private arms for the defense of the State but accepting the private right of self defense.

“Arms in the hands of citizens [may] be used at individual discretion… in private self-defense …” – A Defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the United States of America (1788)

“Here, every private person is authorized to arm himself, and on the strength of this authority, I do not deny the inhabitants had a right to arm themselves at that time, for their defense, not for offense...”. – opening statement as defense counsel for British soldiers on trial for the Boston Massacre in 1770; from the Legal Papers of John Adams, Butterfield and Zobel; 1965

JAMES MADISON:

“Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it. Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors.” – Federalist # 46

“[A] government resting on a minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.”

JAMES MONROE:

“...the loyalists in the beginning of the late war, who objected to associating, arming and fighting, in defense of our liberties, because these measures were not constitutional. A free people should always be left... with every possible power to promote their own happiness.”

ALEXANDER HAMILTON:

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government.” – Federalist # 28

“Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped...” – Federalist # 29

Further in Federalist #29, Hamilton discusses militias and standing armies in detail. He argues against a formal standing army recommending “...an excellent body of well trained militia ready to take the field whenever the defense of the State shall require it. This will not only lessen the call for military establishments, but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow citizens.” If Hamilton expected the militia to be able to stand up to and oppose the regular army, if necessary, with what would they be expected to fight, if not their own arms? That entire exposition, assuming that people would always possess their own weapons with which they could defend the People’s liberties against any formal “military establishment” of the State which might turn tyrannical, clearly shows that the idea of disarming the people was so foreign to their thinking, that they didn’t even consider it as a real possibility.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN:

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”

GEORGE MASON:

(Virginia delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Delegate to the Virginia Constitutional Ratification Convention of 1788, helped Thomas Jefferson draft the Virginia Declaration of Rights which served as the basis for the U.S. Bill of Rights)

“[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia.” – from debates during the Virginia state ratifying convention (June 14, 1788), quoted in Elliot’s Debates

“I ask, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor; but they may be confined to the lower and middle classes of the people, granting exclusion to the higher classes of the people. If we should ever see that day, the most ignominious punishments and heavy fines may be expected. Under the present government, all ranks of people are subject to militia duty. Under such a full and equal representation as ours, there can be no ignominious punishment inflicted. But under this national, or rather consolidated government, the case will be different. The representation being so small

and inadequate, they will have no fellow-feeling for the people.” – from debates during the Virginia state ratifying convention (June 16, 1788), quoted in Elliot’s Debates

“That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state...” – Virginia Declaration of Rights (drafted by Thomas Jefferson and George Mason, with others)

“Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people!”

NOAH WEBSTER:

“The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them.” – An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (October 17, 1787)

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to the unjust and oppressive.” – An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (October 17, 1787)

RICHARD HENRY LEE:

(Fought under George Washington, introduced the motion leading to the Declaration of Independence, signer of the Declaration of Independence; an antifederalist, elected as Virginia delegate to the Constitutional convention and refused to serve, believing the convention was an improper body to consider the new Constitution; opposed the Constitution as not sufficiently protective of individual and State’s rights; U.S. Senator from Virginia and helped secure ratification of U.S. Bill of Rights)

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms. The Constitution ought to secure a genuine militia and guard against a select militia, by providing that the militia shall always be kept well organized, armed, and disciplined, and include...all men capable of bearing arms. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle.” – Additional Letters From The Federal Farmer (1788)

“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” – Letters From The Federal Farmer, # 18 (January 25, 1788)

“... of the liberty of conscience in matters of religious faith, of speech and of the press; of the trial by jury of the vicinage in civil and criminal cases; of the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus; of the right to keep and bear arms.... If these rights are well defined, and secured against encroachment, it is impossible that government should ever degenerate into tyranny.” – Letters from the Federal Farmer, # 53 (1788)

“That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit.” – proposed by the Virginia delegation to the Constitutional Convention (defining the phrase “well-regulated militia” which was used exactly in the final draft of the Second Amendment); and suggested in their state ratification debates, June 1788, to clarify the right.

ELBRIDGE GERRY:

(Massachusetts delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787; delegate to the Massachusetts Ratification Convention of 1788 [refused to agree to the Constitution]; Vice President during President James Madison’s second term, 1813 until his death in 1814)

“What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise a standing army upon its ruins.” – debate in the U.S. House of Representatives (August 17, 1789)

FISHER AMES:

(Delegate to the Massachusetts Constitutional Ratification Convention of 1788, and was later elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1789)

“The rights of conscience, of bearing arms, of changing the government, are declared to be inherent in the people.” – letter to F.R. Minoe (June 12, 1789)

SAMUEL BRYAN:

(Pennsylvania anti-federalist, wrote under the pseudonym “Centinel”)

“That the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals...”. – during debates on ratification of the Constitution in the Pennsylvania assembly

TENCH COXE:

(Prominent Federalist from Pennsylvania, published commentary under the pseudonym “An American Citizen”)

“The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite

unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them.” – An American Citizen (October 21,1787)

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – The Pennsylvania Gazette (February 20, 1788)

“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must occasionally be raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article (of amendment) in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” – Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution; Federal Gazette, (June 18, 1789). Coxe sent a copy of his essay to James Madison along with a letter of the same date. Madison wrote back as follows, supporting the interpretation of the Second Amendment as an individual right: “Accept my acknowledgments for your favor of the 18th. instant. The printed remarks inclosed in it are already I find in the Gazettes here [New York] ... The amendments ... will however be greatly favored by explanatory strictures of a healing tendency, and is therefore already indebted to the co-operation of your pen.”

“The power of the sword is in the hands of Congress? My friends and countrymen, it is not so; for the powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The Militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the Militia? They are not ourselves as politicians and lawmakers. They are those who have elected us into our positions and entrusted us with the power of preserving and carrying out their wishes. Congress has no power to disarm the Militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the Federal or State governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – letter to James Madison during adoption of the Bill of Rights in the United States Congress (1789)


41 posted on 04/13/2012 12:15:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Marcella

Romney sure didn’t “Woo” me or the crowd.

BUT, Newt is doing that right this minute.

GO NEWT GO.....Sure, it’s tough, but it’s worth it.


42 posted on 04/13/2012 12:25:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
ROMNEYCARE!
43 posted on 04/13/2012 12:28:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Marguerite

***Newt needs NOW all the help he can get.***

That is the dichotomy. Newt has so many strengths - it’s difficult for many to understand that he cannot become the gifted leader we need without our help.

The ‘sympathy’ vote for underdogs is underrated - witness the surge for Santorum - based on his being ‘such a good young man’.

Newt has never, is not and never will be portrayed as an underdog - more like a bull dog - chained and beaten by the MSM and Mittney.


44 posted on 04/13/2012 12:50:16 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newtrition - soul food for a starving America.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
ROMNEYCARE!
45 posted on 04/13/2012 12:57:08 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: sodpoodle

First of all, Newt needs that we all vote for him.
Second, he needs money in order to keep campaigning.
How else do you think he can get elected?

It is not about his personal or intellectual strength, that I agree are great, but he cannot win alone. He has to fight against Obama, Romney, GOP elite and the pseudo-conservative media.
That’s what I meant in my earlier post.


46 posted on 04/13/2012 1:10:20 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Mitt Romney's speech to the National Rifle Association is a high-profile chance for the Republican presidential candidate to woo conservatives who have viewed him warily for years.

What utter rubbish. NRA members who know Myth's real record will not be swayed by a mere speech. In fact, I doubt they could be swayed by anything the GOP-E sucking Myth might say.

47 posted on 04/13/2012 1:20:58 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Marguerite

Totally agree with you and adding one of those random ruminations I get after a Milky Way;)

Thank you for your stellar posts & pings{:O

s


48 posted on 04/13/2012 1:57:56 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newtrition - soul food for a starving America.)
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To: Gator113

I’ve been watching all the speakers, still am.

Years ago, I was a member of the NRA. I need to be a member now. Will find them on the web and join.

The NRA members may be the ones to save this country when it comes down to us or communists like Hussein who want everything we have and try to take it. I’d like to know how many NRA members live fairly close to me - I might need their help some day since you are too far away on your mountain.


49 posted on 04/13/2012 2:08:48 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Marcella

Dan Rooney is a pilot and vet of the Iraq War and is speaking at this minute.

If you got a chance to listen to him, you have tears running down your face. I am a hardened old man but his story..... moved me.


50 posted on 04/13/2012 4:45:13 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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