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New York needs a microstamping law to combat gun violence
NY Daily News ^ | april 13, 2012

Posted on 04/13/2012 9:37:13 AM PDT by lowbridge

New York must require microstamping of all semiautomatic handguns —the criminals’ weapon of choice —that are made or sold in the state.

Manufacturers would etch a number on each gun’s firing pin, which would stamp that number onto the shell casing when the weapon is fired. Two years ago, California passed a similar law that has yet to take full effect.

If microstamping were in force, shell casings found at crime scenes would become calling cards —easily traced back to the gun that shot them and, therefore, to its registered owner.

The technology in no way interferes with anyone’s Second Amendment rights. Hunting rifles would not be affected at all. And why should a law-abiding handgun owner care if his or her shell casings bear an identifying mark?

Meanwhile, microstamping would give a powerful tool to police —who regularly discover shell casings that traditional ballistic fingerprinting can’t trace.

Up against these common-sense arguments, the gun nuts have gone ballistic in Albany.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; guns; liberalmedia; mediabias; microstamping; newyork; secondamendment
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To: lowbridge

I love that I left that scummy little hellhole of a state.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 9:55:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: lowbridge

The stated purpose of this law has nothing to do with why they want it. They want this because it will be a burden upon gun manufacturers and gun owners, further driving up the costs of owning a firearm.

Its a burden to require an ID to vote, but nothing is too much for the right bear arms.


22 posted on 04/13/2012 9:56:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
This should be a useful tool for microstamping liberals...
23 posted on 04/13/2012 9:56:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: headstamp 2
hand tools

Like, say, hands, as in picking up the brass.

24 posted on 04/13/2012 10:01:56 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: lowbridge

Picking up a number of casings at a gun range to throw down at a crime scene would drive the prosecutors crazy.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 10:03:36 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (People should enjoy the fruits of their labor. No labor, no fruit.)
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To: lowbridge

These people are beyond stupid.

Criminals will use revolvers and may even “seed the area” with shells from another gun.


26 posted on 04/13/2012 10:04:41 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lowbridge
And why should a law-abiding handgun owner care if his or her shell casings bear an identifying mark?

I love the old progressive foible of "if you're not breaking the law you have nothing to worry about."

27 posted on 04/13/2012 10:06:23 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1/21/2009)
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To: lowbridge
Up against these common-sense arguments, the gun nuts have gone ballistic

No bias there. No Sireee Bob!

28 posted on 04/13/2012 10:07:20 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lowbridge

Sure, the street thugs who commit all this gun violence use their legally registered, semi-automatic weapons, that were purchased in NY (despite the fact the NYC essentially bans such weapons) which would lead investigators to them if we only had microstamping. Also, a street thug would NEVER disable the microstamping on his legally registered murder weapon. /sarc

In the real world, thugs use guns that were stolen, bought from illegal gun dealers or from friends and fellow criminals or that were purchased out of state, often in straw purchases.

NYS recently repealed the CoBIS law requirng that samples of spent casings be sumbitted to the government with all gun sales, because in the over 10 years since in was implemented not a single crime was solved using this method.

Did the NYDN ever think that maybe if the thugs knew that law abiding citizens might be carrying guns, rather than being the sitting ducks that they currently are, they’d be less likely to commit gun crimes? Just think, the gun violence rate in “gun free” NYC and other such cities, could actually drop to the much lower levels found in areas that respect the 2nd Amendment.

It also might make sense to actually lock up violent criminals for an extended period of time, rather than letting them loose to rob, rape and murder.

I think the New York Daily News should change its name to the Fantasy Land Daily News.


29 posted on 04/13/2012 10:10:03 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: lowbridge
The technology in no way interferes with anyone’s Second Amendment rights. Hunting rifles would not be affected at all. And why should a law-abiding handgun owner care if his or her shell casings bear an identifying mark?

This argument is inspired.

Inspired by totalitarian Communist regimes, that is, as they registered typewriters and took samples of the typed output so that they could identify which typewriter was responsible for writing anything that the State disapproved of.

Unfortunately, it was rarely the typewriters who were the ones sent to the gulag or summarily executed.

30 posted on 04/13/2012 10:13:13 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: mylife; lowbridge
the gun nuts have gone ballistic in Albany.

Every cloud has it silver lining.

31 posted on 04/13/2012 10:14:34 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: lowbridge

lol, there are so many stupidities here. A. 5 seconds with an Arkansas stone and the microstamp is gone. B. firing pins are interchangeable-get a new one from the factory and the traceability is broken. C. I can see a HUGE market in custom microstamped firing pins. I bet the “F*** Bloomberg” model would sell like hotcakes.


32 posted on 04/13/2012 10:15:00 AM PDT by jboot
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To: lowbridge

A microstamping law would drastically raise the price of any new gun. But that is what they are after. The idea is not to do anything positive, but to create an interdiction to anyone buying a legal gun to protect themselves.

Why doesn’t Bloomburg do some positive things like nailing a guy to the wall who uses a gun during a crime? Let’s get practical and start punishing criminals instead of returning them to society to do it again. Treat criminals as criminals. Get serious about the penal system. If Bloomburg would do this, I’d back him. When he pushes baloney like ‘Microstamping’, I balk.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 10:15:36 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: lowbridge

Am I correct to assume polishing the firing pin would be illegal?


34 posted on 04/13/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: lowbridge
why not have a wrist band that detects and keeps gun power residue and make criminals wear them instead of penalizing law abiding citizens?
35 posted on 04/13/2012 10:16:07 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: jboot
I can see a HUGE market in custom microstamped firing pins. I bet the “F*** Bloomberg” model would sell like hotcakes.

LMAO!

36 posted on 04/13/2012 10:20:03 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RitchieAprile
a little emery cloth or replacement FP will nix this scheme.

They understand this. They understand that microstamping will not solve a violent crime, any more than having a registered serial number on a gun is any good at tracking down a criminal. The legislation is not aimed at putting violent criminals in jail. It's aimed at putting YOU in jail.

They simply want yet another way to put you in jail when they want to. So when your estranged wife or girlfriend tips them off that you have defaced your microstamper, they can take you away and put you in jail.

In the NY Legislation they have "amends subdivision 6 of section 265.10 of the penal law to clarify that the existing class D felony offense of defacing a firearm includes the defacement of a microstamping component or mechanism of a semiautomatic pistol".

37 posted on 04/13/2012 10:21:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: RitchieAprile

Disinterested outsiders could tell the New Yorkers that they can improve things by simply keeping the bad guys in jail longer ~ like 35 years longer!


38 posted on 04/13/2012 10:22:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge

Somewhere I remember NY OR NYC require the MFG to include a shell case with the gun for the same purpose as the micro stamp would be.


39 posted on 04/13/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by tiger-one
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To: lowbridge

a better idea would be a lower lip tattoo for gun control nuts. Though Bloomberg himself could use an ear tag. Yet if he got one, he would probably demand that everyone else must have one too.

Because, after all, he thinks that everyone else should suffer because of his own personal problems.


40 posted on 04/13/2012 10:24:36 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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