Skip to comments.New York needs a microstamping law to combat gun violence
Posted on 04/13/2012 9:37:13 AM PDT by lowbridge
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In order to make this law work, they'd have to force manufacturers to build guns that make access to the firing pin difficult or impossible. That would require a redesign of almost all existing semiauto guns, and may actually be impossible in many designs. They would also have to have some sort of tamper indicator system. Obviously, this law would be rough on gunsmiths, but I don't think they care.
Remington Arms has a factory at Ilion, NY. And, Bushmaster has moved much of it’s production there.
Imagine your a New York City liberal with your nose permanently high in the air and you discover whats left of manufacturing in upstate New York is notably guns. They intend to drive this unsubsidized industry out of the state. It will be replaced with some giant subsidy for some folly that will be gone in a decade, like nano chips and Global Foundries (1.4 billion in subsidies and climbing).
And of course, ALL criminals who use a semi-automatic are licensed gun owners and acquired their piece from a licensed dealer and registered it appropriately via Form 4473.
And of course the firing pin has never been replaced.
Many manufacturer's include a spent cartridge case with a new firearm. It is simply to show the weapon has been test fired at the factory before delivery. There is no identifying marking on the firing pin.
Yes, that would leave a big zero on the forehead. Very appropriate!
I can buy extra firing pins for ANY rifle or pistol I own.
New York can kiss my unstamped firing pin.
And I just know the thugs will line up to have their EXISTING guns “microstamped”. /s
Current production Bushmaster AR-15 lowers are stamped as produced in “Ilion, NY”.
You know, these are the scary black guns rarely if ever used in crime, but these might be used in a crime. New York City leberals sustain themselves on the narrative that all gun problems are caused by car trunk sales from buck toothed locals in South Carolina or southward. They can’t have guns stamped “Ilion, NY”...it screws up the narrative.
New York would be better off if they allowed citizens to own guns. Now the only folks armed are criminals...
I'd be far happier if he was wearing a toe tag.
In these idiots' minds?
It would be "Ya know...one of those big brown ones that has that scopey thingy on top and makes a really loud bang noise."
Moron! First of all, the arguments for such a registry are far from common-sense, as they can be defeated and/or gamed easily, to wit:
1) Use a revolver and leave no brass.
2) Use a sawed-off shotgun and leave no brass (and also have a far more lethal weapon).
3) Grind down the firing pin.
4) Replace the firing pin.
5) Pick up brass from somewhere else and drop it at the crime scene - this would at a minimum make for much more work for the police, even if they "got their man." Worse yet would be to implicate others. The crown jewel would be to use the same model of handgun used by police in the local jurisdiction, and get your throw-down brass from a range that the police practice at. Oh, would there be fun and games then!
As anyone with any sense knows, criminals will simply not obey this law. It is a simple attack on law-abiding gun owners, in this case by making it more expensive to buy guns (you don't think that the manufacturers will do the machining and keep a database for free, do you?). Plus, it further ingrains the concept of the government dictating what we can and can't buy.
6) Aren’t there small accessories that resemble a mesh bag that attaches to a semi-auto pistol’s slide to catch the brass as it ejects?
Yes. Back in the early 1980's I bought one for my Colt 1911s. You replace the right side grip with a plastic one that has a connector for the catcher.
It worked quite well but played hell with my sight line until I got used to seeing it in my field of view.
What happens when My gun gets stolen?
What happens if my ammo gets stolen?
What happens next gun owners get tattooed ?
7} With $600 invested in a very simple mechinists lathe, vertually anyone could crank out firing pins in a garage for a few dollars a piece in material.
IIRC, NY just repealed the ~10-year-old law which required documenting (by active firing) the ballistic fingerprint of every handgun sold in the state. This is, for all practical purposes, indistinguishable from microstamping ... and it didn't work, wasting the state & its citizens tens of millions of dollars, resulting in ZERO cases solved/facilitated by such documentation.
NY: been there, done that, didn't work, don't go there again.
My only minor quibbles are that the article should have had a barf alert and that this masthead editorial had been more correctly identified as a meathead editorial.
Meanwhile, microstamping would give a powerful tool to police who regularly discover shell casings that traditional ballistic fingerprinting cant trace.
Has traditional ballistic fingerprinting solved any crimes anywhere? IIRC, only NY and Maryland tried this boondoggle, and maybe a couple of crimes were solved for God knows how many millons.
New York needs an enema.
But for someone using the piece to commit murder or armed robbery, if not too bulky or 'kludgey', the catcher would serve better than hunting around for brass.
I thought the governor just nixed this last week as too expensive to in bookkeeping and administration costs.
It was actually quite bulky. It consisted of a fist-sized egg shaped hollow plastic piece with a hole toward the ejection port. It clipped to the grip and sat about one inch from the slide. The mesh bag was attached to the bottom and caught the brass after it was ejected into the plastic "egg."
If I could find it in the basement with my other firearms relic pieces I would get a photo for you but it would takes me an hour or so. I work tonight so I could do it and post the thing tomorrow if you would like.
I have have lots of firearms that come with a spent shell.
It is to demonstrate that the gun was test fired.
Sometimes the target is provided as well and each are signed by Quality Control.
imagine how valuble police expended shells will be.
drop a few at a crime scene or eve a generic call and scream “police brutality” here are the cases. Paging attorney Ambu Lance Chaser, Esq.
You mean their super tough gun regulations haven’t worked!
I think it’s time The City of New York complied with the second amendment.
This is just another attempt by the leftist aka progressive gun haters to ban guns.
Nah...not necessary. I have a good idea of what it looks like. I’ve seen others and wouldn’t use one myself. Unless I had some reason to...like avoiding detection or eventual capture. Hypothetically speaking of course.