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Establishment GOPís Desperate Fight to Hold Power
Conservative HQ ^ | 4/11/12 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 04/13/2012 2:49:52 PM PDT by xzins

Rick Santorum’s exit from the Republican presidential campaign is a win for the Republican establishment, but it is a win that has revealed the desperate weakness of the Republican Party’s Washington insider culture.

Now completely dominated by acolytes of the Bush family, the Republican Party at the national level has no real philosophical core – it is merely about holding onto power.

But this is not power as it is understood in high school civics classes – the ability to use the levers of government by holding elective or appointive office. The power that the insiders of the national Republican Party seek to protect is the power to receive a share of the spoils from the looting of beyond-the-Beltway America.

The dirty secret of Washington’s inside culture is that the lobbyists, influence peddlers, access sellers and professional political operatives who make-up the inside elite of the national Republican Party will get paid no matter who is President.

Indeed, it may even be more lucrative for them if Obama is re-elected while the House remains in Republican hands. While there would be no ambassadorships handed out to bundlers and major donors, imagine the vast fees that can be generated through lobbying and the constant political warfare that are the hallmarks of divided government.

The Santorum candidacy, and those of the other conservative candidates in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, represented an existential threat to the insider culture that now dominates the Republican Party at the national level.

The last thing the Republican establishment wants is a newly elected conservative President arriving in Washington at the head of a vast citizen movement committed to change and to ending earmarks, midnight tax breaks, crony capitalism and other abuses.

The Republican establishment’s commitment to repeating the strategy that led to the defeat of John McCain – appealing to moderate to liberal voters, while ignoring grassroots conservative concerns – is indicative of their desperation to hold on to power and their complete indifference to actually winning the political and philosophical battle about undoing the welfare state and instituting fiscally sound constitutional government.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: establishment; gop; gope; romneytruthfile

1 posted on 04/13/2012 2:50:03 PM PDT by xzins
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To: All

The GOP-e does not really care if Obama wins. They know that their lush payoffs will take a serious blow if the Tea Party gets into power.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 2:51:41 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins
The GOP-e does not really care if Obama wins. They know that their lush payoffs will take a serious blow if the Tea Party gets into power.

This has been obvious for some time. It's a disgusting, criminal, mindset that is anti-American in values and ideals. They're all crooks.

3 posted on 04/13/2012 2:54:30 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: xzins
Establishment GOP’s Desperate Fight to Hold Power

PATENT BULLSHIT!!

4 posted on 04/13/2012 2:55:22 PM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: xzins

It really is time for a new party. Not just a Tea Party operating under the Republican banner but a stand alone Tea Party running its own candidates.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 2:55:49 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: xzins

Reading this makes me want to not vote for Romney. Fortunately for me, in Texas it won’t make a difference whether I vote for a Presidential candidate or not. The other races are important, though.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 2:56:43 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: xzins

I will vote for Newt in the primary (5/29).


7 posted on 04/13/2012 2:57:43 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: bcsco; xzins

” The GOP-e does not really care if Obama wins. They know that their lush payoffs will take a serious blow if the Tea Party gets into power.
This has been obvious for some time. It’s a disgusting, criminal, mindset that is anti-American in values and ideals. They’re all crooks.”

It is obvious the the GOPe doesn’t want to win.

List Obama’s atrocities(at least 100), and not a peep out

of these traitors!!!!


8 posted on 04/13/2012 2:59:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: xzins

I recommend Conservativehq.com for all those of you who call yourselves true Conservatives. Richard says it like it is...


9 posted on 04/13/2012 3:00:28 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: GoldenPup

Did you read the article or just the headline?


10 posted on 04/13/2012 3:04:15 PM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: saganite

” It really is time for a new party. Not just a Tea Party operating under the Republican banner but a stand alone Tea Party running its own candidates.”

It would take too much money to start a new party. The Tea Party needs to run these RINOS out of office.


11 posted on 04/13/2012 3:05:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: xzins
The GOP-e does not really care if Obama wins. They know that their lush payoffs will take a serious blow if the Tea Party gets into power

Many of us have understood this for some time. Ever since McCain threw the election it was obvious.

12 posted on 04/13/2012 3:06:17 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: xzins; All
Rick Santorum’s exit from the Republican presidential campaign is a win for the Republican establishment...

Uh... Santorum's campaign itself was a "win" for the Republican establishment.

It's insulting how he managed to sell anyone on the idea the former 3rd ranked Republican Senate leader, one with a penchant for "taking one for the team" over his supposed conservative values, was not establishment.

But, they argue, Newt was Speaker... Ah... but Newt was overthrown by the establishment and pushed out.

13 posted on 04/13/2012 3:07:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: tommix2
Indeed, it may even be more lucrative for them if Obama is re-elected while the House remains in Republican hands.

This is probably so. I hadn't understood that , before.

14 posted on 04/13/2012 3:12:22 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: bcsco
brazilian saying: Different flie$, $ame $h!t...the Establishment. :-P

15 posted on 04/13/2012 3:33:53 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Kill all the terrorists; protect all the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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To: xzins; dixiechick2000; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Carry_Okie; ..

The GOP-e have become timid and fearful of a beautiful grass roots conservative movement that if supported could have given them and all of us ownership of the government for the next forty years or longer!!!


16 posted on 04/13/2012 3:36:56 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Negativity must die because it's self-fulfilling!!!)
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To: GoldenPup

That wasn’t nice and furthermore it wasn’t true!!!


17 posted on 04/13/2012 3:38:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Negativity must die because it's self-fulfilling!!!)
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To: DallasDeb
"I will vote for Newt in the primary (5/29). "

I will too- if he's still in it.

18 posted on 04/13/2012 3:45:24 PM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
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To: xzins

The Capital needs to be moved out of DC and rotated amongst the States


19 posted on 04/13/2012 3:51:48 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Rick Santorum -Mission Accomplished)
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To: xzins

I guess the elites do have an interest in keeping the economic machine well-oiled and working so they can skim their cream off the top. The Obama radical lefties want to completely destroy the economic capability of our country and control us completely.

Given no other choice, I guess I had rather be a pack mule for the elites, hoping one day to flee the farm, than to ride the leftist ship to the bottom of the sea.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 3:54:47 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Mountain Mary

Interesting website - thanks.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 4:08:42 PM PDT by w4women (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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To: xzins
Now completely dominated by acolytes of the Bush family, the Republican Party at the national level has no real philosophical core – it is merely about holding onto power.

That was Poppy Bush to the core. His only conviction was that "People Like Us" (PLU) should always hold power and control the agenda ..... on class merit .... without any freaking idea about what to do with it, except admit the "pigs at the trough" to the Treasury vaults, to "unlock the value", as investorspeaking periodicals used to say about asset-stripping.

Except for Dubya and Laura, the Bushes are a monument to privilege and high-toned snobbery.

22 posted on 04/13/2012 4:26:58 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: xzins

Regardless of party whether GOP or democrat, the Establishment needs to go !


23 posted on 04/13/2012 4:26:58 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: skinkinthegrass
brazilian saying: Different flie$, $ame $h!t

Instant classic.

24 posted on 04/13/2012 4:32:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: SierraWasp

The GOPE fears no one, thus they put up Romney.

Who on this thread is even mentioning fighting back with Newt?

We see so-called “conservatives” not getting behind Newt at the grassroots, but serving as the GOPE tools for Romney.

So, why would they fear the Tea Party when they are proving as
easy to manipulatie as anyone else?

There is no fight, just obvious capitulation.

Capitulation is rank on FR.

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25 posted on 04/13/2012 4:33:08 PM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt IS Galt. (& Always has been.) 1144 isn't hear, yet!!!!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"brazilian saying: Different flie$, $ame $h!t"
alas; I borrowed it. :-D

26 posted on 04/13/2012 4:51:27 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (DNC/RNC...the D.C. Establishment...old brazilian saying: Different flie$, $ame $h!t. :^)
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To: tommix2
Ever since McCain threw the election it was obvious.

It's been obvious since the gutless GOP threw Newt to the wolves back in the 90s. He's the one person who truly threatens their corrupt gravy train and he had to be eliminated as a candidate "by any means necessary." Looks like they succeeded.

27 posted on 04/13/2012 5:13:15 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: RitaOK
Whata ya mean "?" ???

Why don't ya pound out on yer keyboard how ya really feel about some of your fellow FReepers, huh???

What's Newt really good at? Debatin, right? Well Obummer would nerver be dumb enough to even engage Newt in a debate and I don't even think he'll do one with Romney.

Is there no room for honest disagreement on FR? Must we all march in lock-step to Newt when he has things in his makeup that some of us can't get over like his formidable stripe of GANG-GREEN running up the middle of his back?

I've had a frustrated dislike about everybody that's run except Michelle Bachman and for a while I had to settle for Santorum. My biggest concern is repealing Obummercare and those two seemed the most committed to smashing it flat. Now you think I gotta depend on Newt to do it when he had a billionaire on his side and he still couldn't slow down the establishment guy.

If you are actually trying to convince anyone of anything then you need to stop thrashing and trashing anyone and everyone that may disagree with you to some degree. But now I'm certain that with your attitude you'll come right back on me, or anyone else that doesn't volunteer to support your favorite with "if ya don't vote fer Newt, yer votin for Obama!"

I and numerous CA FReepers went through this same episode when we had to choose between Tom McClintock and GANG-GREEN RINO Arnold Schwartzenegger who talked as conservative as Newt, yet saddled us here with a massive CONservancy and our own CA Cap and Trade fiasco!!!

So neither your criticism, nor your implied scorn for anyone who doesn't share your lust for Newt is going to make me resign my membership on FR and/or drive me away. My conservative credentials are as consistently strong as any FReeper or other human being and you'll have to settle down to that fact!!!

28 posted on 04/13/2012 5:14:30 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Negativity must die because it's self-fulfilling!!!)
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To: xzins

They want to lose. It confirms their position.


29 posted on 04/13/2012 5:20:51 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: xzins
Establishment GOP’s Desperate Fight to Hold Power

PRECISELY! Spot on! Both corrupt to their core!

30 posted on 04/13/2012 5:55:00 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: xzins

The Tea Party - conservatives - are the GOP’s only enemy. Sickos!


31 posted on 04/13/2012 9:07:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Nahh, around here, the ‘Taxed Enough Already’ party is the enemy.

After all, every third word isn’t Jesus.

Or to be more clear, the TEA party was all about reduced spending and reducing the scope of government. They actually made an effort to keep out social issues. And here (for what looks to be the majority of Freepers, nowadays), all that matters is G-d, abortion, and gay marriage.

Which makes the TEA party the enemy.

Heck, there is a blazing flamefest about Romney going on here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2871732/posts

And in it, d@#n near every other post is about how Romney is a homo-loving abortionist. And he is. He’s also a big-government, tax-n-spend, nanny-state loving statist.

But that doesn’t matter. *NOBODY*... *NOBODY*... *NOBODY*... is mentioning that.

Which means that *NONE* of the Freepers give a flying rat’s @ss about that.

And that was a major eye-opener to me. That individualism, states’ rights, and a small government mean jack-s@#t to the current Freeper ideal of conservatism.

:-(


32 posted on 04/13/2012 10:37:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Except for Dubya and Laura, the Bushes are a monument to privilege and high-toned snobbery.

Them too .George H Bush was VP during the Savings and Loan Swindle. And Knowledgible people sounded the alarm when th loss was still small but the elite making a killing off it remained silentLike Sarah Palin said they arrive in Washington of modest means and soon become wealthy.

33 posted on 04/14/2012 12:35:58 AM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: gogogodzilla

Nahh, around here, the ‘Taxed Enough Already’ party is the enemy.

After all, every third word isn’t Jesus.

Or to be more clear, the TEA party was all about reduced spending and reducing the scope of government. They actually made an effort to keep out social issues. And here (for what looks to be the majority of Freepers, nowadays), all that matters is G-d, abortion, and gay marriage.


Libertarians need to come to terms with the reality that the country can not operate constitutionally when the government via oligarchs are dictating humanistic amorality in the public square to serve themselves. It is anti-ethical, politically correct (dishonest) and anti-moral. Because of this, it can not guide itself ethically so it needs to be monitored and controlled by the police state. Humanism precludes liberty.

Western ethics and it’s social morality go with individual freedom. People are educated and expected to act morally and ethically in their business and public dealings. One must be moral to survive on your own and permit others to survive on their own. The opposite of morality and ethics is corruption.

For example, Banksters giving out loans to people who were unqualifed was fine in humanism because it made them a lot of money and it met the demand from Leftists that poor people buy property. It was unethical though, because it was dishonest and predictiably crashed the real estate market. They did not have the ethics and morality to resist the urge for quick money in a political deal of fraud. They passed their guarenteed losses onto real estate investors. Given investment is based on truth and honesty in reporting to investors and sound business practices, dishonesty precludes the free market. When people will not monitor themselves and each other, they are corrupt. You can’t have a free market that is corrupted by humanistic or amoral politicans and oligarchs.

Most recently humanism priests, or it’s “bio-ethicists” proclaimed killing already born children is ethical. They advocate China’s State dictated one child policy be imposed by all nations on their people. They demand that all children be sexually groomed in all adult sexual behaviors and that discernment is “hate.” When people resist the State imposition of elitist social demands, they shout them down as “religious.” It’s just the flip side of the Vatican dictating self serving social beleifs, behaviors and norms to the whole society in old Europe. It’s more like the Soviet Union doing the dictating. The humanist temple is the University and government. I’m not a member. Amorality is not my god.

Elitists have not been all that honest and successful at social engineering (cultural cleansing) and should not be using the government to impose their humanistic beliefs about sex, marriage and family on the whole nation. It’s none of their business and they should not have social dictating power anymore than should the Pope. We are not all one thing socially. It’s a many way street.

You have to tolerate hearing about Jesus and I have to tolerate your love of homosexuality and your ideal of amorality in a free society. As long as I don’t make you bow down to Jesus and you don’t wag your ass in my face or my children’s faces, through the power of the state that is fine. Neither of us should have the power of the state to dictate socially. When the State takes up the cause of dicting socially, for humanists or for Muslims say, we end up in conflict or a struggle to impose our social structure over that of others. That is where America is thanks to humanist social engineers.

This is the spirit of the Tea Party. Just because they decided not to be socially active in conservative social issues does not mean they want to be socially dictated to by liberatarians (humanists) instead of Christians or Muslims. They want to be free to be ethical and raise there own children and associate with the ethics (sexual and otherwise) they choose for their own families and walk in life.

So in gentle terms, scew off with your gay sex agenda, mkay? It has nothing to do with freedom or the Tea Party. You yap at me and my children about homosex and I will yap at you about Jesus. You don’t want to be bothered with Jesus and I don’t want to be bothered by gay sex problems and being free, neither of us should be even talking about it in the framework of politics cause neither of us should have the power to dictate to the other. So call off your one-size-fits-all humanist dogs and Christians won’t have to tell you where to stick it. That is freedom.:)


34 posted on 04/14/2012 7:09:22 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: gogogodzilla

That’s silly, gz. Everyone mentions romneycare and big government as part of the total list of romney’s deficiencies.

I would also submit to you that abortion, gay marriage, contraception, etc. are ALSO all about BIG GOVERNMENT.

That’s why RELIGION is the very first item the bill of rights mentions and LIFE is the very first listed right the Dec of Independence mentions.

If you look at JimRob’s list of Romney’s deficiencies it mentions all the above and his tax and spend policies.

I am a conservative. A conservative knows that cultural values are interrelated, so there’s no true frugality without a regard for life. Why be frugal?


35 posted on 04/14/2012 7:23:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

Seriously, look at the responses on that thread.

To a man, the reasons for hating Romney are that he’s a baby-killing, homo-lover.

That’s it out of our Freepers. They don’t like Romney for his social issues... and don’t give a flying rat’s @ss about anything else.

Not anymore. Freepers used to, but all of those guys have probably been zotted now.

And that was just two years ago, with the TEA parties.

I’m coming to the conclusion that the TEA parties were just ‘useful idiots’ for the social conservatives. That they need to be thrown under the bus, now... to push the only issues that matter: Jesus, Joseph, and Mary.

As understood by them, of course.


36 posted on 04/14/2012 1:00:40 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: xzins

Would someone name for me five members of the GOP Establishment? My wife wants to know.


37 posted on 04/14/2012 1:02:56 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: SaraJohnson
This is the spirit of the Tea Party. Just because they decided not to be socially active in conservative social issues does not mean they want to be socially dictated to by liberatarians (humanists) instead of Christians or Muslims. They want to be free to be ethical and raise there own children and associate with the ethics (sexual and otherwise) they choose for their own families and walk in life.

Yep.

Where I disagree with you is that if you want to be granted the ability to live your life the way you desire... and want to raise your children the want you believe; then you have to grant that to others that do not live their lives the way you do, nor raise their children the way you would.

And what I see with the majority of the vocal social conservatives here at the Free Republic... is that they most adamantly *DO NOT* believe in that point.

The postings I've seen from them simply boil down to how their social beliefs are right (fine and dandy to me, because I agree with them)... and how everyone else that doesn't have those same values most be made, through the force of law, to comply with them.

Which I don't agree with, as explained in my first paragraph.

Which dovetails nicely into the small-government, states' rights point of view.

38 posted on 04/14/2012 1:12:08 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: xzins
The GOP-e does not really care if Obama wins. They know that their lush payoffs will take a serious blow if the Tea Party gets into power.

Which is why their minions are here on FreeRepublic screaming at principled conservatives, trying to get them to stay on the Grand Old Plantation and vote for Romney. They know that if there were a true conservative revolution in this country they would be out of a job.

Some Romney supporters are motivated out of fear, some are swayed by the Romney/GOPe advertising machine, others out of unquestioning loyalty to the Rockefeller wing of the GOP. All are willing to jettison conservative principles for an ends-justifies-the-means ploy to give power to the GOP.

If principled conservatives hold fast and ignore the harpies who post here, then we can at least continue putting Tea Party candidates in as many areas of local, state and federal power as possible. Hopefully the tide will eventually turn.

39 posted on 04/14/2012 1:18:12 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: gogogodzilla

And what I see with the majority of the vocal social conservatives here at the Free Republic... is that they most adamantly *DO NOT* believe in that point.


That’s bull. Liberals have been busily cultural cleansing Christians for a long time now in the name of racial and sexual freedom and special rights.

You are brainwashed if you think liberals going into public schools and preaching homosexuality at children is not targeted at cultural cleansing the Christians. It’s Soviet. I don’t want to cuss so I will shut up now.


40 posted on 04/14/2012 1:44:46 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Of course liberals are. I fight that all the time.

What I’m seeing is more and more social conservatives here at the Free Republic talking about how right those tactics are... as long as *WE* do them.

And that bothers me a lot.


41 posted on 04/14/2012 2:21:52 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

I figured out a long time ago that one leads to the other. What are Christians supposed to do when liberals use the political system, education institutions, government and special rights to brainwash and demoralize their children and themselves? Sit back and shut up like good, dummy Soviet citizens? We have religious freedom. They are not allowed to impose their social garbage on us like it is a state ordered religion!

Instead of having a cow about the Christians kicking back, try having a cow about the liberals who are actually in power and imposing their nasty belief structure on the nation as if we do not have the religious freedom to reject sexual perversion. I don’t want to cuss. Over and out.


42 posted on 04/14/2012 2:37:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Crawdad

Folks like Rove, Whitman, Steele, Boehner, Marriott


43 posted on 04/14/2012 2:43:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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