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VOTE NOT-ROMNEY & TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION
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Posted on 04/14/2012 7:43:15 AM PDT by Mechanicos

We are not yet defeated. Per Alinsky play book, they want us to feel defeated. But, if you look at the facts although it looks difficult, it is not impossible to still prevent Romney from winning the Nomination.

Romney only has 535 committed delegates now. There are not many winner take all States left to win. And the pattern for Romney in proportional states is he wins urban but not rural areas. So, if conservatives come out to vote and in enough numbers while contining to vote the Not-Romney ticket he will be denied the 1444 he needs. The GOPe and Dems want us to feel defeated when we are not yet defeated.

And a push to "Vote Not-Romney & Take It To The Convention" is not subject to Rove's Negative attack machine. It is possible we can still stop him if we spread the word far enough. Continue voting not-Romney and help get not-Romney delegates for the convention.

So spread the word, make it something positive to do. Vote Not Romney in the remaining states and take it to the Convention for a do over.


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1 posted on 04/14/2012 7:43:24 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

Voting for Newt, May 8, in NC, and voting against gay marriage too. Striking a blow against Communism (Obama) and socialism (Romney)!


2 posted on 04/14/2012 7:45:51 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Mechanicos

Newt is still on the ballot so there is still one option.


3 posted on 04/14/2012 7:46:31 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mechanicos

I like it. A long shot to be sure, but I like it. I also like your “never say die” attitude!

Santorum 2012


4 posted on 04/14/2012 7:55:54 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

Several former Presidents were elected by a brokered convention, so it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Newt knows this, I think. The fact that his coffers are pretty much empty indicates to me that he’s just biding his time to the convention to whip up support for his candidacy.

I’m praying for divinity in this as well.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 7:58:11 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Mechanicos

I am voting for Santorum in the Indiana primary.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 8:02:37 AM PDT by dforest
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To: rarestia

I suspect Newt is mostly just trying to get out of debt at this point.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 8:02:53 AM PDT by Taiowa
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To: Mechanicos
Read Why Reagan Won: The Conservative Movement 1964-1981 (Chicago: Regnery, 1981) by F. Clifton White and William J. Gill. This includes a fascinating account of the 1968 Republican National Convention.

Going into the convention, Richard Nixon had the organization, the money, the backing of most of the party bosses, the momentum, and, most of all, the lion's share of the delegates. However, he didn't have enough to win on the first ballot, and Ronald Reagan, who was running as a "favorite son" and only announced his candidacy on the eve of the convention nearly won the nod.

Nixon won a first ballot nomination, but with only 25 votes to spare. Had the nomination been blocked, Reagan might have stampeded the delegates, many of whom sentimentally favored Reagan but were pledged to Nixon on the first ballot.

8 posted on 04/14/2012 8:05:47 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Mechanicos; All

AMEN. KEEP SPREADING THE WORD. Everone e-mail your contacts and “share” Newt stories on your Facebook...

Everyone has friends or family who are conservative but really do not follow politics as we do.

It is our DUTY to get off our assets and make sure they know. It really is that simple. It is simply a question of whether we really care enough about the fate of our nation - or whether we would prefer to play a role as habitual victims.

Fox has set the tone and much of the “conservative” media follow. They are acting as though the election is OVER. We need to rally bring them the humiliation and shame they deserve by defeating this ignoble deceiver by a massive freaking LANDSLIDE in the upcoming elections that the SOB Fox lap dogs are pretending doesn’t exist.

These useless scam artists need to be a footnote4 in history.

LET’S DO IT PEOPLE!!!!


9 posted on 04/14/2012 8:09:46 AM PDT by publius321
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To: Taiowa
I suspect Newt is mostly just trying to get out of debt at this point.

We are now down to ONE non-Romney option, and I think remarks against Gingrich are now just demoralizing and counterproductive, but maybe that's the intention.

10 posted on 04/14/2012 8:13:22 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: Mechanicos

Even though he is no longer actively running, Santorum is way ahead of Newt, and is presumably still on the ballots.

No use telling anyone who to vote for, but I think he is the likelier of the two. In any case, DO NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY. And I think Ron Paul is a distraction, too.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 8:14:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lady Lucky

Gingrich is renting out his donor list. That’s the last act.


12 posted on 04/14/2012 8:15:15 AM PDT by magritte (Don't blame me. I voted for a real conservative, Rick Perry.)
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To: GenXteacher

Me too. Voting for Newt and if he drops out, I’ll vote non_Romney somehow.


13 posted on 04/14/2012 8:17:08 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: RIghtwardHo

Vote for the man who fought it not for the man who helped bring us this
OBMACARE is a 1.76 Trillion $ Hydra
A 9 headed Serpent whose heads must be decapitated all at once with a Firebrand otherwise they grow back and devour everything in sight
by L.J .Keslin / http://www.theusmat.com

While the ex governor of the only state with mandatory state run health insurance (which is in trouble ) was busy buying up state primary elections Of the three GOP candidates remaining opposing him only one man, Sen Rick Santorum, had the courage to take on a what they call a third rail issue...Eugenics...one of the heads on that 9 headed snake called obamacare.. and Santorum had his character asassinated for it... Rick has been pummeled from both sides Called , a women hater ,, a religious nut, and ..a one trick pony. Santorum spends an hour discussing oil and the economy then 10 seconds comenting about pornography but guess what MSM and Santorum detractors will talk about... certainly not ,what’s really in the 1.76 trillion dolllar wonder called Obamacare ,,...!; Population control,.Death panels., Private presidential armys.. and all that goes in those 2400 pages of rules, laws,and regulations and with it. cost, 1.76 trillion and rising ..

To pay off a 16 trillion dollar national debt at $16.00 a second would take 31,668 years*. .. Not including interest.There is no way to “fix” Obamacare..Part of that debt is a 1.7 trillion dollar secret Xmas eve gift that was delivered in March 09 that must be returned by someone determined to do so not just exchanged .I’ts doubtfull the man in the Etch a Sketch suit will do it. Mitt has yet to explain how his “Romneycare “is working”
A trillion seconds of time =31668 years
Two groups late in the last century led in Eugenic development. The Nazis and the Communists. Few know or remember how the Nazis began. First citing “health risk” “nicht rauchen” baning cigarette smoking, Then terminating Down Syndrome children, and then on to mentally defective children and adults,. then on to besides murdering opponents, races. All done to make the German Reich healthy and last a thousand years.

So you go to the MSM (Main Stream Media) the so called “gate keepers” for information about these things and you find closed gates .. The sorcerers in the media magically reduce a 2000 page Hydra , a Greek legendary nine headed venomous serpent that must be slain by a firebrand ,and morph it into the mourning after pill and a “womans health care issue.”
The “gatekeepers” never tell you that Obamacare bill creators and the Amish are exempt from being in Obamacare. The drafters are on record actually calling it population control and demanding Catholic bishops support it.* Their statements are out there .But not mentioned by the so called gate-keepers but by the AM the alternate media, meaning radio talk shows like Limbaugh’s and websites like Britebart’s Government . Places Obama wants to shut down and will once re-elected *Joel Pollak Britebart Government .

When Santorum talks about freedom he warns women surrender their rights when they buy into this monstrosity . That is what’s in Obamacare which is deceptively titled “The Affordable Health Care Act” .Yet Obamacom tzars who hail from that foreign land, the deep swamp of Acadamica are all preaching the utopian wonders of Eugenics. Why it’s the final solution (remember him ?) population control. Which is part of the Obamacare package.
Santorum has not shyed away from this issue miss characterized as his war on women when it’s a war on freedom for young and old.

PS Don’t forget to vote for his delegates too


14 posted on 04/14/2012 8:20:23 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: Cicero

I’ll vote Newt.

Santorum will probably endorse Romney as soon as he agrees to pay off Santorum’s campaign debts.


15 posted on 04/14/2012 8:20:29 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Lady Lucky

Agree. Santorum is not in anymore. Newt is.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 8:23:50 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
I’ll vote Newt.

Yes!

17 posted on 04/14/2012 8:27:29 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Lady Lucky

Newt is 4.5 million is debt, and is renting out his diner lists to raise money.

He’s not going to win, that door has closed. With Santorum out, Newt’s support fell almost as much. The RCP chart says all you need to know. Those hoping for a brokered convention aren’t facing reality, I hate to break it to you. That ship has sailed and Santorum and Newt were both fighting over the rudder so that it slowed down beyond catching the Romney boat. Sad but true.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html


18 posted on 04/14/2012 8:27:45 AM PDT by Taiowa
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To: Taiowa

Were you on the Nixon Campaign too? Same thing was said then....


19 posted on 04/14/2012 8:31:34 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: Mechanicos
The numbers are NOT with Mitt Posted by noprisoners49 (Diary) Friday, April 13th at 5:30PM EDT 62 Comments Recommenders: garfieldjl (Diary), dialove Mitt Romney must win over 60% of all remaining hard delegates to secure the GOP nomination. Surprised? 19 states still need to be heard from, and of those states 869 hard delegates are available at the state and district level (discounting the 37 total delegates available between Indiana and Arkansas, which have proportionality rules only a democrat could love). State and committee GOP delegates number about 69, which I’m throwing into my calculations as a given for Romney. Nevertheless, Romney still needs 663 delegates to reach that magic 1144 number. Can he do it? Of the 11,280,792 votes cast so far, Romney has accumulated 4,595,908 or only about 41%. Typically, Romney does not garner more than an average of 44% of the vote. Santorum averaged about 25% of the vote. Even if half of Santorum’s supporters vote for Mitt, this still does not give him the necessary 60+ % to secure the GOP nomination. [All data from http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_vote_count.html]. DO NOT WAVE THE WHITE FLAG OF SURRENDER..NEWT IS STILL IN THIS..ARE YOU? NO GUTS, NO GLORY!
20 posted on 04/14/2012 8:34:11 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: FR_addict

I am hoping that Santorum does not endorse Romney, but I seldom get what I hope for out of politics.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 8:34:39 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Mechanicos

Nixon was a VP before he was POTUS.

Apples and oranges.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 8:35:21 AM PDT by Taiowa
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To: mosesdapoet

YES! A 60-day campaign by a newly-selected candidate is just the thing to win this election against Obama!

All potential candidates will have their national campaign set up, staffed, ads prepared, bumper stickers and signs printed, dates planned for debates, schedules completely filled out prior to attending the convention. They won’t want to waste any of that 60-day window.

What a great idea! I’m behind it 110%!


23 posted on 04/14/2012 8:35:59 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Mechanicos
I WILL NOT vote for the Mittwit in my state's primary.

The only vote he could EVER get from me is a strategic, last resort, "Anyone But Obama" vote.

24 posted on 04/14/2012 8:38:43 AM PDT by Kolb (Compone Accomoda Supera)
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To: Mechanicos

I’m Barak Hussein Obama and I approve this post.


25 posted on 04/14/2012 8:41:19 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Mechanicos

I hope anybody but Romney gets the nomination.

Failing that, anybody who sits home insures another 4 years of Obama. And that is probably unsurvivable.

See tagline.


26 posted on 04/14/2012 8:45:21 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Anyone who thinks we can sit home, then survive four more years of Obama, is a damned fool.)
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To: Mechanicos

It’s good news for the Obama team.


27 posted on 04/14/2012 8:47:51 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Mechanicos

In all seriousness, the primaries have been fought and it is over. Only one person would benefit from this been dragged out to the convention, Barak Obama. Like it or not, that is reality.


28 posted on 04/14/2012 8:49:10 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Mechanicos

I’m supporting Newt, but if the nominee is Romney I’m finished with the GOP. He will install his liberal socialist ilk in all the positions of power in the RNC. If you thought the GOP-e was bad now, wait until he is finished installing his people.

If Romney is nominee, I will probably vote for Virgil Goode. I don’t know much about him yet, but so far he looks good. Here is his website.

http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/


29 posted on 04/14/2012 8:49:24 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Mechanicos
Been saying since San dropped out. "They" want you to THINK its over when Texas and other states have not voted primary yet. My fav. radio station KSEV in Houston is all ready to get behind Romney now to defeat O.

well...... we're not there yet- posted as such yesterday. Glad to see this new posting Mech. !

30 posted on 04/14/2012 8:51:26 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: mosesdapoet

YES! A 60-day campaign by a newly-selected candidate is just the thing to win this election against Obama!

All potential candidates will have their national campaign set up, staffed, ads prepared, bumper stickers and signs printed, dates planned for debates, schedules completely filled out prior to attending the convention. They won’t want to waste any of that 60-day window.

What a great idea! I’m behind it 110%!


31 posted on 04/14/2012 8:51:59 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Kolb

At this point, all you will accomplish is lending a helping hand to the Left. I live in a state that has a late primary. So I will vote for the guy who has won it all ready. I feel I’m helping by keeping up morale. If I voted in an early primary, I vote a combination of heart and mind, but I don’t live in one. The enemy is the Left, not ourselves. If it becomes ourselves, I fear I will never see any sort of conservative leaning government in my lifetime, and I’m not that old. Remember the old saying, perfect can be the enemy of the good.


32 posted on 04/14/2012 9:01:23 AM PDT by gusty
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To: SusaninOhio

I DID NOT mean to post this twice, my system is slow and I didn’t realize it had already been posted the first time.

Apologies.

I did however mean to make the point that a brokered convention, as late as this one is schedule in the election cycle, can only, as has been said by others, give us four more tragic years of The Won.

I will do everything in my power to keep that from happening.


33 posted on 04/14/2012 9:05:21 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: gusty; Vaduz

Obots are not wanted on FR. You two should leave.


34 posted on 04/14/2012 9:07:15 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: gusty
I fear I will never see any sort of conservative leaning government in my lifetime, and I’m not that old.

I haven't seen one yet in my voting lifetime and I'm starting to feel old.

35 posted on 04/14/2012 9:08:41 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: SusaninOhio

Your statement is so...let me put it to you this way: Ronald Reagan in October, 1980, polled around 30% but he went on to win the Presidency in November, 1980. Your statement is wrong.

Never, never, never give up.

Since you talk like a quitter, I’m sure the rest of the rebels here on Free Republic wouldn’t mind if you quit and go to another online site, say the Democratic Underground.


36 posted on 04/14/2012 9:11:14 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: gusty

Romney is a self-professed socialist, a fascist. Did you know that?

We have an opportunity to knock that fascist pig right out of the party and you’re going to vote for him?

If you’re not a Conservative, why are you on Free Republic?


37 posted on 04/14/2012 9:13:59 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

I was getting ready to ask you if you were going to invite me to leave also.

Thanks so much for meeting my expectations!

Are you actually someone who can MAKE me leave, or are you just blithering?


38 posted on 04/14/2012 9:19:05 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: SusaninOhio

“Brokred conventions” What brokered convention ?
Lady I aib’t buying your b/s about a “brokered convention” your talking point is designed to detract from the issue and that is the complete rejection of Obabacare and all that goes with it which a good showing by Santorum would bring....

Peddle that b/s elsewhere


39 posted on 04/14/2012 9:21:40 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: dforest

EXCELLENT!!! Yes we need this guerilla warfare now against the GOP-e. This works just fine. We can change the narrative. This is what the Vigurie Santorum conservative strategy group must now come forward and urge! Spread the word. I am sure Jim would be able to encourage this too...


40 posted on 04/14/2012 9:24:51 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Study closely socialist Hugo Chavez' usage of 'popular masses' in the streets to thwart 1992 coup)
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To: Mechanicos
We don't want an Etch-a-sketch candidate!
41 posted on 04/14/2012 9:29:53 AM PDT by Track9 ("Strength through peace.. oh wait, I mean.." Mit Romney)
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To: Vaduz; Mechanicos
It’s good news for the Obama team.

Why are you here Karl Rove?
42 posted on 04/14/2012 9:31:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

To smarten you up.


43 posted on 04/14/2012 9:34:13 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Taiowa

You signed up on April 8 of this year to post this?

Your posts seem to indicate you understand Free Republic, which means you’ve been reading a while. Maybe you’re a longtime lurker. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt since that could be true.

If not, then either:

1) You have another account here and want to say this stuff without having your primary account banned, or

2) You’re an already-zotted retread, or

3) You’re a Mitt Romney supporter, coming on here to discourage us either because you’ve been paid to do so or because you really want Romney to win.

Other than being a longtime lurker who finally decided to sign up to post, which would be legitimate, I can’t think of any other reasons you’d come on here now just to say this.

I’m not the smartest guy in the room, and I could be wrong. It’s happened before and it will happen again. Please show me I’m wrong about you.


44 posted on 04/14/2012 9:37:43 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Taiowa

You must have a very low opinion of the typical freeper mentality, if you think anyone here is unacquainted with your perspective on “reality.”
Some of us think it is worth trying, to change reality. You seem to want to accept the status quo, which is a Romney coronation.
What have you done to avert it? All you are doing now, that is apparent to us here, is trying to get us all on board the Romney train wreck.
American history is full of people who faced more hopeless odds than we do now. If people like you who say GIVE UP, had prevailed, there would be no U.S. history.
Yet you tell us not only to give up, you imply we’re stupid because we don’t face facts.
We see the facts just fine, Taiowa.
You can always go to the animal shelter if you want to talk down to blind kittens.


45 posted on 04/14/2012 9:50:30 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: SatinDoll
No, I'm trying to defeat Obama, not help him like your lot. If you want to be like a Japanese soldier wandering the jungle till 1979, be my guest. I will retain some sort of sanity and work to throw Obama out of the White House. Your way is just a road to defeat for defeats sake, a loser I might say. Right now the Democrats are tripping all over themselves and setting themselves up for defeat, but people like you would rather prop them up with your unrealistic fantasies. Your lot will not be happy until the GOP polls in numbers equal to the Libertarians. Me, I want 50%+. If Romney wins in November and we get only a pro-business federal government, then count me in. My suspicion about your lot is that down deep you like the Left’s handouts, you might be feeding at the trough right now. Honestly, I really don't care that much for the social issues, but the free market stuff I'm passionate about. So if that is all I get from Romney, great. But you I suspect are the opposite. Your all worked up about the social issues, but you do not want to lose your entitlements. I used to laugh at some Tea Party people calling for a cut government spending, but still wanted their own entitlements left alone. Are you this type also. See, I don't care what you do in your privacy, but keep your hand out of my pocket. That's the Left’s hand and the Right’s hand.
46 posted on 04/14/2012 9:50:52 AM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty
Remember the old saying, perfect can be the enemy of the good

Personally, I've never advocated the perfect. I've supported Newt Gingrich.

And still do.

By the way, cowards and quitters are some other enemies of the good.

47 posted on 04/14/2012 9:54:10 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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To: SusaninOhio

Jim Robinson has made it clear that FR is in rebellion, we are Conservatives, and will not tolerate posts saying we should all give up and vote for the fascist Gov.Romney.

I am calling him a fascist because that is what he is; an old fashioned progressive-type fascist, a supporter of national socialism who believes government is God.

This election is all about money and power, who wields it and will control the United States for the next four years.

Do we want to cede the United States to BHO2, a Marxist-Leninist who is Christian or Muslim only when politcally expedient; or shall it be Gov.Romney, a fascist and Globalist who doesn’t give a damn about our Constitutional rights anymore than BHO2.

Our only choice to save this nation is Gingrich.


48 posted on 04/14/2012 9:57:14 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: Taiowa

Taiowa
Since Apr 8, 2012

Troll much?


49 posted on 04/14/2012 10:01:54 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Nominating John McCain insured the first four years of Obama. Nominating Mitt Romney would insure the next four years of Obama.
But you want us to accept that and vote for him with the following results:

1 Romney loses but gets enough votes to return in 2016 as a credible candidate.
2 Romney depresses the vote down ticket and we lose the House too.
3 Obama wins and that is “probably unsurvivable.”


50 posted on 04/14/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Retro Sark...because you just never know when you'll have needed a sark tag.)
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