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Zimmerman Homeowners' Association Info (vanity)

Posted on 04/14/2012 9:43:55 PM PDT by TigerClaws

After the shooting I saw the twitter feed for Zimmerman's HOA. On it was posted a thanks to "neighborhood watch" who solved four burglaries that week. Retreat at Twin Lakes townhomes.

Seems to have disappeared.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: crime; george; sanford; vanity; zimmerman

1 posted on 04/14/2012 9:44:01 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

It would be interesting to know the dates of those burglaries and the dates of Trayvon’s visits.......


2 posted on 04/14/2012 9:46:18 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: TigerClaws

Trayvon’s parents will probably be suing the HOA.


3 posted on 04/14/2012 9:48:41 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Red Badger

We know TM was caught with stolen goods at school. Were they ever linked to a specific robbery?

Zimmerman states that Martin was doing something suspicious. Looking in windows? Walking erratically checking out townhomes? We don’t know.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 9:50:13 PM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: smokingfrog

Of course they will. That’s all set up now for them.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 9:51:13 PM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: smokingfrog

If it breathes, moves or exists they will sue it. Money to be made on the death of their child.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 9:52:41 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: TigerClaws

We dont ‘know’ the items were stolen, only that they were pieces of female jewelry, that he claimed belonged to his girlfriend.

But, he did have a screwdriver along with the items, it was reported, a bit unusual.......


7 posted on 04/14/2012 9:54:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Red Badger

It is safe to assume 17 yr old unemployed hs kids routinely buys bags of jewelry at a time...


8 posted on 04/14/2012 9:58:54 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: TigerClaws

There is an interesting psychological subtext to this case.

Zimmerman cried for help from his neighbors, those people for whom he had sacrificed much of his own time to protect.

He was attacked in an area closely surrounded by numerous homes, and we know there were people in a number of those homes at the time.

No one helped him.

No one stepped outside and tried to pull Trayvon off of him.

The one person who acknowledged him, the witness John, told them to “stop” and went back to call 911.

The neighbors have a psychological bias toward it being Zimmerman as the bad guy. That way, they don’t have to feel guilty about doing nothing as a man was nearly beaten into a vegetable or to death outside their doors.

There is a parallel to the Vietnam War. Students were given deferments so that they wouldn’t have to serve, while those who couldn’t get into college or didn’t want to go to college were made to go.

As a guilt-avoidance mechanism, many of these students projected the US as the “bad guy” in the war and thereby avoided having to face feelings of guilt in that they were allowed to avoid service that others were made to do.


9 posted on 04/14/2012 9:59:08 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Huh??


10 posted on 04/14/2012 10:05:26 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: TigerClaws

Remember that “Retreat View Circle” is the street where the incident occured.

Check out the crime reports:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/BurglaryReports.pdf


11 posted on 04/14/2012 10:06:08 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: goseminoles

The Kitty Genovese case was a famous seminal instance of this. Look it up.

She was murdered crying for help in a crowded neighborhood. Neighbors did nothing. “Didn’t want to get involved.” “It’s the police’s problem.”


12 posted on 04/14/2012 10:07:40 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Great observation


13 posted on 04/14/2012 10:24:05 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: toldyou
Just as Zimmerman told the dispatcher, there apparently had been a number of recent burglaries in the neighborhood. In these reports, not unsurprisingly, the victims are all white and the perps are all young black males.

If I lived in that neighborhood I'd be on the lookout all the time.

14 posted on 04/14/2012 11:01:17 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Some of that case is myth. It comes from a NY TImes article. The book Super Freaknomics looks into it.


15 posted on 04/14/2012 11:14:24 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Meet the New Boss

“The neighbors have a psychological bias toward it being Zimmerman as the bad guy”

Wrong.

Abadee Abadee you’re loony tunes.

It’s all about a common fear whites have of confronting an African American who is in the act of committing a violent act in public, whether the victim is the neighborhood watch, a kid on a bike, or an elderly person.

It’s just plain cowardice, and fear of being perceived as “racist” if they touch or confront the perp.

Fear.

Fear of being a victim themselves. Fear of being a witness.

Fear of a approaching a personality type who will KILL you if you look at them wrong or they think you have “dissed” them in some way.

Stay vigilant folks, these are dangerous times.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 11:51:41 PM PDT by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: wolficatZ

You missed the point.

It is human nature for people to rationalize circumstances in order to place their actions (or non-actions) in a better light and feel better about themselves.

Let’s consider two situations.

In scenario A, there is a nut with a gun walking around outside their homes shooting down young boys like a dog for no reason at all, or because he doesn’t like their skin color.

This is the narrative painted by the media and the race hustlers and the state attorney.

Obviously, no one should feel guilty for not going outside in response to cries of help to face down a gunman randomly or racistly gunning people down. In fact, they should move their families away from the windows to avoid possible random shots.

In scenario B, an unarmed teenager jumps on the neighborhood watch guy who asks him what he is doing in the neighborhood and starts wailing on the guy.

In this case, if someone responds to the cries for help and comes out and pulls the teen off of the neighborhood watch guy, at that point the teen probably takes off running (seeing two against one) and in any event not wanting to wait around for any cops.

And if no one helps the neighborhood watch guy even though his pathetic cries for help go on minute after minute? Maybe he suffers brain damage or even dies.

The people who cowered in their homes would feel like crap in scenario B. Just one guy willing to pull the teen off of him would have prevented brain damage or death.

In fact, what we had was scenario B EXCEPT with the neighborhood watch guy armed with a gun. So when the teen kept bashing his head and no neighbor came to help, he had to rely on self-defense.

For the neighbors, if they go along with the media’s and the state attorney’s narrative being scenario A, they don’t have to feel like cowards. No one would expect them to reasonably go out and face down a racist gunman shooting down boys in cold blood with a depraved mind.

Scenario B? They ought to feel bad for not helping.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 12:18:44 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Bookmark


18 posted on 04/15/2012 12:20:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: wolficatZ

By the way, whites are a minority in this “gated community”.


19 posted on 04/15/2012 12:24:16 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Occam’s Razor. You might outta keep yer day job!

JC


20 posted on 04/15/2012 1:47:50 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Meet the New Boss

Yep, you make an excellent point but I haven’t heard of any neighbors specifically bashing Zimmerman, although a few certainly want to get their white-guilt consciences re-Obamanized by trying to be “helpful” to the nice black family. I suspect that most of the neighbors support Zimmerman but are loathe to speak out for fear of being politically incorrect.


21 posted on 04/15/2012 1:59:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I didn’t say “bash” Zimmerman. I said that psychologically they would have an incentive to buy into the media narrative.

Have you heard these witnesses?

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/video-eyewitness-to-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-speaks-out/?iref=obinsite

This was the witness who was on the phone to 911 when the gunshot went off.

Witness: “The young boy was the one crying for help.”

There was NO YOUNG BOY involved in the incident. That was a figment of the media narrative. But the witness has absorbed the media narrative of a “young boy” being gunned down as she recollects the incident in the interview.

Q “Who was on top?”

Witness: “It was very dark but …the larger person was on top”

Q “What happened after the gun went off with the larger man?”

Witness: “…a couple of seconds later that larger man was walking closer to where I could see him… obviously the boy was dead and the other person got up and was walking away from the body”

In reality, we have Zimmerman at 5’8” wearing a red jacket and Martin at 6’2” wearing a hooded sweatshirt. We know from witness John who saw the incident with more detail and spoke to Zimmerman during the fight that the man in the red jacket was on the bottom. And that accords with the physical evidence of the grass stains and wounds to the back of the head of Zimmerman.

Another witness (Mary Cutcher) is mind-reading Zimmerman afterward as walking around thinking to himself “my God what did I do?”:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/20/neighbor-trayvon-martin-shooting-wasnt-self-defense/

Here she is in another interview. Note that the MSM news anchor in the intro and the interviewer both describe Zimmerman straight up as a “vigilante” (not alleged vigilante). This is one of the media organizations exposed to a defamation claim by Zimmerman if he turns out not to in fact be a vigilante.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/witness-sanford-police-blew-us-teen-slaying/nLSqk/

Witness: “The cry stopped when the gun went off, so I know it was the little boy.”

Witness: “I know there was no self-defense.”

Interviewer: “Cutcher believes even if Martin got the best of him, it’s no excuse to kill a teenager half his size.”

Again, there WAS NO LITTLE BOY involved in the altercation. That was created by the media. Trayvon was not half the size of Zimmerman. That was a media fiction. But the witness has absorbed the media narrative and talks about “the little boy” and “half his size.”

These are pretty egregious examples of a false media narrative influencing witness accounts in a case in which a man is on trial for murder.


22 posted on 04/15/2012 2:46:42 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: TigerClaws; maggief

Maggie, can you find this in the “way back file” or what ever you call the areas that have been scrubbed?


23 posted on 04/15/2012 4:53:34 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Meet the New Boss

Interesting...you’re right.

They watched him get beat up...why didn’t they help him?

I would have. It wasn’t like Zimmerman was a total stranger and he was clearly in a bad spot with a 6+ft guy on top of him...

If they were too afraid to help, what does that say about Trayvon and how badly he was beating up Zimmerman?

(I know we all like to think of Trayvon as a little 12 yr old darling just trying to enjoy his Skittles) /s

If Trayvon really looked like the picture I see on the news, why didn’t an adult go out there and pull the 12 yr old off of Zimmerman and tell him he was being bad and they were going to call his parents? I mean he was just a little innocent, right? /s

The Mrs


24 posted on 04/15/2012 5:17:37 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: hoosiermama; Cboldt; kristinn; TigerClaws

www.facebook.com/retreatattwinlakes?sk=wall&filter=2 · Cached page

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=facebook+%2fre%e2%80%8btreatattwinlakes&d=4552223466198274&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=65c67e23,e48b09ae

The Retreat at Twin Lakes

Our Neighborhood Watch leads to four arrests in burglaries in the RTL. Great job! This is why we need more residents calling the Sanford PD Non-emergency number to report suspicious activity.

Like · Comment · February 12 at 8:34am · Melissa Michele, George Zimmerman, Jaime Lynn Magnetico and 3 others like this

Two Neighborhood Watch Alerts have gone out this week. Are you on our resident email contact list? Email RTLReflections@gmail.com to sign up. Emails are sent out using using the BCC field, so your email will be kept private.

Like · Comment · February 7 at 5:46pm · Sonia Nascimento and George Zimmerman like this.

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See also: http://twitter.com/#!/rtl_news


25 posted on 04/15/2012 5:45:49 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Why do you suppose some of the information on those reports are blackened out?


26 posted on 04/15/2012 7:15:55 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: toldyou
Why do you suppose some of the information on those reports are blackened out?

No doubt because the suspects were minors. However, they missed the one at the end.

27 posted on 04/15/2012 8:51:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: maggief

Thanks Maggie, knew you’d find lots of information. You’re the BEST!


28 posted on 04/15/2012 9:17:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“No doubt because the suspects were minors. However, they missed the one at the end.”

Thanks!


29 posted on 04/15/2012 9:30:32 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: toldyou

Mostly electronics and jewelry taken....Things easily fenced so that the perps will have more money for recreation and snacks.


30 posted on 04/15/2012 11:47:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: wolficatZ

I wonder how much fuss they would have made if a violent kid got tasered or got mace in the eyes instead of killed. The world we live in...


31 posted on 04/15/2012 11:50:37 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: maggief

Thanks. FOUR arrests.

Non emergency line is what Zimmerman called. NOT 911 AA is constantly reported.


32 posted on 04/15/2012 12:44:41 PM PDT by TigerClaws (He)
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To: hoosiermama

“...the perps will have more money for recreation and snacks.”

Hmmm....snacks? Skittles?


33 posted on 04/15/2012 6:27:18 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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