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Holmes finds EBT has elementary problems
Boston Herald ^ | 4/15/12 | Chris Cassidy

Posted on 04/15/2012 8:25:42 AM PDT by raccoonradio

Several days after state Rep. Russell E. Holmes (D-Boston) pleaded for EBT card reform at a State House press conference last week, he was hit with another reminder of the deep flaws in the system.

Holmes was at the Roxbury Stop & Shop by Grove Hall last Sunday when someone approached him asking if he wanted to buy the man’s EBT card.

“His price was 50 cents on the dollar,” Holmes said. “It’s not a surprise to me.”

Holmes has spent the last few months on an EBT card commission trying to reform the system.

“It’s something that’s prevalent,” Holmes said. “It was ironic that in a week where I had gotten a significant amount of pushback from advocates, saying not much of this is happening, I’m at a store less than 15 minutes and see someone asking many people if they want to buy food stamps and use their EBT card.”

Holmes said he was encouraged to see so many others turn the man down.

“I think that’s exactly what I’ve heard from the community,” Holmes said. “Many of us are frustrated by the amount of abuse happening with the card.”

Holmes is taking a strong stand against EBT card abuse, calling for efforts to add photos to the cards and tighter restrictions on where the cards can be used.

“What we’re most concerned about is folks being able to use the cash to do the worst things in our community — to buy more drugs, more alcohol, to gamble,” he said. “These are the things that hurt our community the most.”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ebt; ebtcard; foodstamps; howiecarr; russellholmes; welfare
MA State rep. Russell Holmes

>>Holmes is taking a strong stand against EBT card abuse, calling for efforts to add photos to the cards and tighter restrictions on where the cards can be used.

Amazingly the guy's a Dem.

1 posted on 04/15/2012 8:25:55 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio; Andonius_99; Andy'smom; Antique Gal; Big Guy and Rusty 99; bitt; Barset; ...

Howie Carr list ping


2 posted on 04/15/2012 8:26:37 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, as it slips beneath the waves...


3 posted on 04/15/2012 8:28:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Throw all the bums out.' It's not a slogan. It's the survival of the republic.)
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To: raccoonradio

Rep. Russell E. Holmes must be a racist / S

All kidding aside.... It’s nice to see a “D” actually understands the problem with abuse in the EBT system and how it affects the people enslaved by it....


4 posted on 04/15/2012 8:31:23 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: raccoonradio
Holmes is taking a strong stand against EBT card abuse, calling for efforts to add photos to the cards

He is (GASP!) asking for IDs?

Buy a membership at COSTCO and they ask you to sit for less than a minute and voila! you have a card with your pic on it. Same can be done with EBTs, but watch the "disenfranchisement" Hue and Cry erupt when that is proposed.

5 posted on 04/15/2012 8:35:03 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hey, you gotta start somewhere. A couple of years from now, EBT reform as the first step of an implementation of an economic version of Rudy Giulani’s Broken Windows Theory might be seen as a turning point.


6 posted on 04/15/2012 8:35:51 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Popman

Mass., prime example of EBT card abuse, where a woman using a stolen or “bought” EBT card buys a bunch of soda at a store.
She then takes the cans STILL FULL OF SODA and attempts to redeem them at a machine in the store (heavily damaging the machine). Gives fake names and social security numbers. And
EBT cards are being used to buy a lot more than just soda.

And...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heroin-dealer-allegedly-posts-bail-with-his-ebt-card/

(MA Dem gov Deval Patrick, aka Barack Jr., was re-elected
in 2010. He is not running for a third term however.)


7 posted on 04/15/2012 8:36:17 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

He sees the end of their gravy train that is busting the wheels on the taxpayer rails. He knows their free ride is almost over and he is trying to prolong it.


8 posted on 04/15/2012 8:36:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: raccoonradio
"calling for efforts to add photos to the cards."

Hey now, this crap is starting to get out of hand. The next thing you know, they'll require ID cards to vote!

9 posted on 04/15/2012 8:39:30 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Oatka
Exactly...note in another post I did about a woman buying cans of soda with a stolen or bought EBT card (then breaking a redemption machine with cans still full of soda). Gave fake names and social security numbers. Does her pic have to be on the card? Of course not, this is MA. You also don't need to show ID to vote.

10 posted on 04/15/2012 8:39:50 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Enterprise

Wouldn’t happen in MA of course. Anyone can get to my polling place and give my address and name (taken from phone book or whatever) and be given a ballot. When I show up to cast my
vote I would be told “sorry sir, it says here you already voted”. Requiring ID, or photo ID, would be RAAAAACIST!


11 posted on 04/15/2012 8:41:17 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Lol
12 posted on 04/15/2012 8:43:57 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: raccoonradio
It's not only “abuse” of the EBT card that is a problem.

The truly lavish balances bestowed upon many is a problem as well.

I'm acquainted with a woman, with four minor children at home, whose monthly balance is $1,500.00.

No Mooshellian food desert there. You want to know the source of such startling obesity statistics among the poor, start looking at EBT before launching into some weirdly yuppified statist program forcing arugula and pilates upon an unwilling lumpen proletariat.

They're fat because they're awash in food, with apparently no oversight. They're fraudulently selling excess EBT balances because they can't eat it all. That is the distinct impression I've gotten.

13 posted on 04/15/2012 8:47:04 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: struggle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk


14 posted on 04/15/2012 8:47:54 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: raccoonradio

Yes, it is nice to see some semblance of awakening. But how long will it last, and what is to become of it? And why are the Rats so thick-headed as to refuse to see the obvious? Yes, most are in it for themselves, but there are those few who really are naive, bordering on stupid.


15 posted on 04/15/2012 8:48:46 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: EternalVigilance
But it creates jobs,sarc.
16 posted on 04/15/2012 8:49:39 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: raccoonradio

I’ve had “people” ask me for my shopping list here in the Cleveland/Akron area. They’ll get your stuff, then take 50% in cash,


17 posted on 04/15/2012 8:50:28 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: raccoonradio

Holmes was at the Roxbury Stop & Shop by Grove Hall last Sunday when someone approached him asking if he wanted to buy the man’s EBT card.

Sell the card on Sat, report it lost or stolen get a replacement.


18 posted on 04/15/2012 9:00:13 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
If you've ever witnessed a swarm of EBT-armed women descend upon the sale items in a discount grocery store, wiping them out on the day of the sale, you'd be acquainted with another means of gaming the system.

I've seen it. Meats on sale in particular seem to be the target of this sort of behavior. Whether they're reselling immediately, freezing it or what, I don't know. But they do descend upon it.

19 posted on 04/15/2012 9:07:57 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: raccoonradio

“Holmes is taking a strong stand against EBT card abuse, calling for efforts to add photos to the cards and tighter restrictions on where the cards can be used.”

Wonder what he thinks of voter ID laws?


20 posted on 04/15/2012 9:08:52 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

“Wonder what he thinks of voter ID laws?”

Doesn’t really matter. If he stays on this line of questioning EBT card abuse, he’s toast with what passes for a political base. Next election comes around he’ll be leaving the fraternal snakepit under the golden dome on Beacon Hill, some other viper will replace him.


21 posted on 04/15/2012 9:38:50 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: raccoonradio

They’ve reformed EBT cards here in NC.

Changed the name to ‘SNAP’ card.
Flooding the air waves with ads to ‘Come get your SNAP card’.


22 posted on 04/15/2012 9:40:17 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: raccoonradio

The only reform that would make a dent is a multi-pronged approach ;

1) Special stores that accept only EBT and cash. Have the grocery chains in each area bid to run these on a store by store basis. They’d only be allowed to stock produce, meat, dairy, generic/low-priced canned goods and staples. No premium meats, seafood, or other food items. No wine, beer, liquor or cigarettes.

2) Photo ID required with EBT card.

3) Clawback unused EBT funds each month. Use it or lose it.


23 posted on 04/15/2012 9:40:48 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: RegulatorCountry

Stealing meat and reselling is amazingly common in Cincinnati,as is stealing to order and EBT fraud.

The black community chooses to tolerates this behavior and then complains of store closings.

In the suburbs white drug users continue to drive downtown to their sidewalk salesmen for their fix.

And further out the meth-heads are busy cooking batches and stealing anything they can pick up or pry loose.

This nation needs leaders in all places who will condemn,rather than enable and enoble, bad behavior.


24 posted on 04/15/2012 9:42:48 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Photo ID

Daily purchase limits

Reduced funding overall

Required to attend job training

Length of time on assistance limited

Card user must attend basic nutrition and home economic class

By the way,I once saw a girl using a EBT buying canned salmon for her pet cats because pet food is not approved;the other thing to note is that the salmon was actually CHEAPER for ounce than the canned cat food!And likely healthier for the cats ,as well.

The entire welfare/EBT/Section 8 program is wrong-headed;the programs SHOULD be designed to help and encourage people to qualify ,find, and keep a useful,productive job, either self-employed or for hire.

The programs are actually set up to keep people dependent so the bureaucrats have high-paid jobs.Nevermind that those programs actually destroy the family and self-respect.


25 posted on 04/15/2012 9:55:23 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: raccoonradio

HEROIN DEALER ALLEGEDLY POSTS BAIL WITH HIS EBT CARD

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heroin-dealer-allegedly-posts-bail-with-his-ebt-card/


26 posted on 04/15/2012 9:59:23 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Photo ID

Daily purchase limits

Reduced funding overall

Required to attend job training

Length of time on assistance limited

Card user must attend basic nutrition and home economic class

By the way,I once saw a girl using a EBT buying canned salmon for her pet cats because pet food is not approved;the other thing to note is that the salmon was actually CHEAPER for ounce than the canned cat food!And likely healthier for the cats ,as well.

The entire welfare/EBT/Section 8 program is wrong-headed;the programs SHOULD be designed to help and encourage people to qualify ,find, and keep a useful,productive job, either self-employed or for hire.

The programs are actually set up to keep people dependent so the bureaucrats have high-paid jobs.Nevermind that those programs actually destroy the family and self-respect.


27 posted on 04/15/2012 10:23:57 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

I’m sort of in exurbia verging upon rural and the behavior started turning up here over a year ago. Copper thieves stripping vacant houses continues to be a problem along and near through routes connecting to any of the three cities in this midsized metro area.

Buses from those cities show up at church food banks, very brazen well dressed people. What are you going to do, turn them away and be featured on the evening news branded racist?

The local Dollar General was robbed at gunpoint this week, an unheard of thing. Masked urban youths, reportedly. The poor lady behind the register was still visibly shaken by it days later, said she never expected that out on a little podunk road in a town with one stoplight.

I’m starting to think I don’t live far enough out.


28 posted on 04/15/2012 10:31:19 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jiggyboy
James Q. Wilson, Coauthor Of The Broken Window Theory
29 posted on 04/15/2012 10:51:43 AM PDT by blam
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Click

30 posted on 04/15/2012 10:52:52 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
3) Clawback unused EBT funds each month. Use it or lose it.

Use it or lose it only results in people spending more than they need. I've seen the behavior in the Army.

The item I find missing here is where the guy gets arrested for fraud.

31 posted on 04/15/2012 11:36:34 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: hoosierham
Stealing meat and reselling is amazingly common in Cincinnati,as is stealing to order and EBT fraud.

There was recent article about how Tide laundry detergent is among the most commonly stolen items from retail outlets because it's used by so many the thieves can always find buyers for it. I'd bet it might be a common item for purchase with an EBT card for quick resale, also.

32 posted on 04/15/2012 12:55:30 PM PDT by Will88
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