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Marine Faces 'Other Than Honorable' Discharge Over Anti-Obama Facebook Comment
ABC ^ | 04/15/2012 | MARISA TAYLOR

Posted on 04/16/2012 5:09:46 AM PDT by safetysign

A federal judge on Friday rejected Sgt. Gary Stein's injunction to halt a military tribunal's recommendation that he receive the discharge following anti-Obama comments he made on a private Facebook page in March, according to court documents.

Stein, 26, has maintained a webpage for the last two years about the armed forces tea party group he founded, including a disclaimer that the views were his own and didn't reflect those of his employer.

But according to his attorney, Stein never ran into any trouble until last month, when he wrote: "Screw Obama. I will not follow all orders from him."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cicobama; dissent; facebook; marine; obama; stein; teaparty; usmc
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1 posted on 04/16/2012 5:09:54 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: safetysign

We can only hope that the next real president will be able to overturn this injustice and restore this patriot’s honor.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:39 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: safetysign

Soldier nailed by Obama Nazis. The Progressive Communist pan Leninists mean business. The soldier is lucky to be alive, unlike Breitbart who died after vowing to tell the truth about Obama.


3 posted on 04/16/2012 5:17:17 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: BuffaloJack

The military joins the coverup on behalf of the usurper.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:23 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: safetysign

He knew the rules. He clearly violated them, & dishonored himself in the process. Very stupid & very sad.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 5:20:35 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: safetysign

NOT GUILTY!!!


6 posted on 04/16/2012 5:22:26 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: safetysign

Reason #20,849 not to have FB.


7 posted on 04/16/2012 5:26:12 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Mister Da

I agree that the Marine was mistaken about what he was allowed to say and what he wasn’t allowed to say. I don’t think he dishonored himself.

1. He can’t conduct his personal opinions on a government computer.

2. He can’t speak contemptuously of his commander-in-chief (or any commander, actually). Let him say, “Screw Captain Jones!”, his company commander, and see what that gets him.

3. He can’t give the impression he is speaking as a Marine or on behalf of the Marines, any disclaimers notwithstanding. (I think his website was something about Marine tea party, or Marine protest.)

None of the above is dishonorable, in my opinion. In fact, it doesn’t rise to the level of court martial, if you ask me. I think it was non-judicial, letter of reprimand to the official file kind of stuff. And that would have ended his career in that he would have failed promotion, and it would have been far more quiet and dignified of the Marine Corps to have handled it in this manner.


8 posted on 04/16/2012 5:27:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: safetysign
he needed to respect the office (Lord knows there is none among us who respect the man)...

if the commander in chief had ordered him via his commanders to commit war crimes, he would have had a legal precedent to disobey.

other than that, he signed an oath and was duty bound to obey his superiors.

I find this fascination with putting ones life out there for all to see on facebook disquieting at best.

9 posted on 04/16/2012 5:29:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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"it would have been far more quiet and dignified of the Marine Corps to have handled it in this manner."

Completely agree: the Marine Corps has been overwhelmed with political correctness and moral cowardice for many years. Remember the unseemly and disgraceful race to promote the "first female three-star"? General Mutter was an incompetent, yet the Corps raced the other services to be first for whatever political capital that bought us. This action against a Sergeant is the latest example of swatting a fly with a sledgehammer, just to make their masters happy and guarantee their security in promotion and plump retirements. The latest Commandant is a smarmy politico and an embarrassment.

We have been caught up in the whole "promote the tall, good-looking guys who never get in trouble" syndrome while ridding ourselves of the characters and troublemakers who built the couragous reputation of the Corps. Chesty wouldn't have lasted through Second Lieutenant in today's Marine Corps.

10 posted on 04/16/2012 5:39:42 AM PDT by Chainmail
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"Soldier nailed by Obama Nazis.."

That's Marine, not soldier. Spend any time in uniform, Buddy?

11 posted on 04/16/2012 5:44:13 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: BuffaloJack

I can only hope that Americans choose a next Congress carefully - that my fellow Americans do not send “useful idiots” to Congress but Patriots who will insist on the IMPEACHMENT of any Pagan Communist like Obama-or any of his Administration.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 5:52:19 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: safetysign
So when does John Hanoi Kerry get booted out for his anti Soldier comments on Iraq, Afghanistan and Viet Nam. I am not a war criminal or a baby killer.
13 posted on 04/16/2012 5:52:37 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Chainmail
"Lighten up, Francis'
14 posted on 04/16/2012 5:53:00 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: mountainlion

Bingo.. We have a winner!


15 posted on 04/16/2012 5:56:04 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: mountainlion

Hanoi Kerry had already been booted. That’s what the discharge upgrade program under Carter was about.


16 posted on 04/16/2012 6:06:52 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: safetysign

Nonsense. The rules are clear, and he knew what they were. He blew it. This has nothing to do with an injustice by this administration.


17 posted on 04/16/2012 6:15:15 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Never borrow batteries out of your smoke alarm!)
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To: Chainmail
swatting a fly with a sledgehammer

Absolutely. In fact, over-reaction on minor admin matters during wartime is debiliting to morale in that it lessens respect for the wisdom of higher command.

ridding ourselves of the characters and troublemakers who built the couragous reputation of the Corps

Excellent point. There's a time and a place for the odd, the unexpected, the unique. If all you've got are company men, then all you're going to get is company ideas and answers.

18 posted on 04/16/2012 6:18:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: safetysign

Hey Barack O’Quota Baby...just remember that that marine made the mistake of saying openly what virtually all of our military thinks of your sorry illegal *ss.


19 posted on 04/16/2012 6:18:54 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: onedoug

He made his comments on Afghanistan and Iran during the Bush Administration which was after his supposed DD before Carter. He is still in the Senate so he has not been booted yet.


20 posted on 04/16/2012 6:18:59 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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