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Marine Faces 'Other Than Honorable' Discharge Over Anti-Obama Facebook Comment
ABC ^ | 04/15/2012 | MARISA TAYLOR

Posted on 04/16/2012 5:09:46 AM PDT by safetysign

A federal judge on Friday rejected Sgt. Gary Stein's injunction to halt a military tribunal's recommendation that he receive the discharge following anti-Obama comments he made on a private Facebook page in March, according to court documents.

Stein, 26, has maintained a webpage for the last two years about the armed forces tea party group he founded, including a disclaimer that the views were his own and didn't reflect those of his employer.

But according to his attorney, Stein never ran into any trouble until last month, when he wrote: "Screw Obama. I will not follow all orders from him."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cicobama; dissent; facebook; marine; obama; stein; teaparty; usmc
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To: safetysign

Hey Barack O’Quota Baby...just remember that that marine made the mistake of saying openly what virtually all of our military thinks of your sorry illegal *ss.


21 posted on 04/16/2012 6:18:59 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: safetysign

Obama’s not fit to shine this Marine’s shoes.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 6:20:08 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: Mister Da
He knew the rules. He clearly violated them ...

Hey, didn't I hear someone at Nuremberg say the very same thing?

23 posted on 04/16/2012 6:28:42 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: safetysign

I don’t want see a jarhead thrown to the wolves, but posting something bad about your Commander-in-Chief on Facebook is not the brightest decision one can make. It definitely qualifies a “career altering decision.”


24 posted on 04/16/2012 6:29:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I also want the next president to overturn the injustice done to LTC Lakin.

Can you imagine if - even Romeny - were to casually make the statement in a press conference, "the first week of my administration, I will reinstate all benefits to LTC Lakin and expunge the injustice done to his record." The left would go apoplectic. Mittens wouldn't have to say anything for or against the eligibility issue, but it would instantly be up in front of the public. Arpaio's findings would be front and center. Mittens could just say, I am not discussing the presidents eligibility. It is a decision that each American has to consider when voting in November. :-) I can hope and dream, right?

25 posted on 04/16/2012 6:38:31 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

Guilty, but not OTH. Discharge for sure, but general only.


26 posted on 04/16/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator (VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

“Nonsense. The rules are clear, and he knew what they were. He blew it.”

I actually applaud him for thinking it. I think it’s possible a 2nd term Obama might try to become President for Life. On the other hand Obama, legitimately or not, is CIC and you can’t publicly announce your intention to disobey your superior officers.


27 posted on 04/16/2012 6:44:08 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: safetysign
Facebook is a lot like obama...assuming a lot of power it doesn't really have; if the members looked at it carefully, they'd probably ditch facebook in droves.

Now we read stories like this, in addition to the stories about potential employers demanding applicants' facebook password and using facebook as a tipping point in the hiring process.

My wife's employer wants her to make their firm a "friend", so that all of their [advertising] posts to her will pop-up on all of her friends' pages. I don't know if that is actually illegal, but it sure sounds like it.

I have had to "hide" posts from some of my friends because they dominate my board with minutia that I could care less about. Some do 20 or 30 posts per day which drives the posts I really would like to see completely off the page.

Facebook is turning into a monster, and I don't do twitter at all. But I still see everytime someone's girlfriend makes them a cake, or sweeps the backyard, or other crap that is meaningless. I have denied "friendship" to several people that I know will totally dominate the wall.

I keep it only to be able to keep up with my grandchildren who live very far away.
28 posted on 04/16/2012 6:51:14 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: safetysign

Just imagine HOW MANY servicemen and women harbour identical sentiments. IMHO they form a majority.


29 posted on 04/16/2012 7:13:10 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Mister Da

Absolutely. Like it or not, he violated not only the rules, but showed insubordination. I may agree with this guy politically,and he is free and should morally disobey any order he feels is unlawful or immorral. However, that doesn’t mean he won’t have to face the consequences of doing so.

Screeding on facebook wsa not bright at all. I don’t see how any military tribunal could rule anything but this in this case. Unless they wanted to throw him in the brig instead.


30 posted on 04/16/2012 7:19:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: BuffaloJack

Stein is an idiot and after only making it to Sergeant in nine years deserves to be RIFd for that alone. He’s a s***bird.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 7:19:19 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: FlyingEagle

Stein is a Marine, genius.


32 posted on 04/16/2012 7:20:18 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Mister Da
Agree.
When you put on the uniform, you accept the discipline.
33 posted on 04/16/2012 7:45:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: 6SJ7

Cute, very cute, my draft-dodging friend.


34 posted on 04/16/2012 8:01:23 AM PDT by Chainmail
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35 posted on 04/16/2012 8:21:05 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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36 posted on 04/16/2012 8:22:18 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: xzins
IIRC they tried him under a section of the UCMJ that is for Officers, but he is only an NCO so I think they are just using him as a scapegoat. He stated that he would not follow orders and then clarified it to state that he would not follow illegal orders. That is a proper statement for an of our service personnel to make.

The military brass is trying to give cover to the POS in the White House and to cover their own butts also.

37 posted on 04/16/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

Article 88 definitely doesn’t apply. Maybe they can stretch Article 89 since the President is the Commander in Chief. I don’t know.

If the Sergeant used a government computer or gave any impression whatsoever that he was speaking as a Marine and not as a citizen, then he was in violation of other provisions that have nothing to do with article 88.


38 posted on 04/16/2012 9:51:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: MtBaldy

We’re free to think it all we want, and grouse about it amongst friends at the bar out in town. But that’s as far as it goes.


39 posted on 04/16/2012 10:08:09 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Never borrow batteries out of your smoke alarm!)
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To: xzins

Article 134 would apply.

I’d love to know what paragraph of the separations manual they are going to use for his discharge.


40 posted on 04/16/2012 10:14:38 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Never borrow batteries out of your smoke alarm!)
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