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Posted on 04/16/2012 7:16:23 AM PDT by edge919
Edited on 04/16/2012 8:51:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Obama has just made a Freudian slip in Colombia; maybe it's because of hanging out with Shakira. He was participating in "a cultural event to recognize the historically marginalized Afro-Colombian communities and to grant the descendents of slaves the formal title to their land." In part the story says:
Standing alongside President Santos of Colombia and singer Shakira in the Plaza de San Pedro, Obama reflected on his own ancestry.
"Early in my presidency, my family and I visited Ghana in West Africa and we visited the historic Cape Coast Castle and I'll never forget my two young daughters, the descendents of Africans and African-Americans, looking out through the door of no return where so many Africans began their forced journey to this hemisphere," he said.
First this says Obama was reflecting on HIS OWN ancestry. What exactly does Obama's ancestry have to do with his comment?? He was not born to African-Americans in the United States. His father's family weren't slaves, plus they were from East Africa, not West Africa. His mother's family weren't slaves either.
And second, see how he describes his daughters. What's missing??
-———What’s missing??
Decedents of white slave owners.
His daughters have a mother, you may recall, most daughters do. Their mother's ancestry IS African-American and most likely the descendant of slaves.
Does that clear things up for you?
Umm, I think he was reflecting on his daughters' ancestry.
My brain started going fuzzy somewhere around the mention of Shakira. Not sure why.
I see what you’re getting at, however, if I were visiting Germany, I might say I was a descendent of Germans and not mention other european ancestry.
A single shred of truth.
“Reparations” goes global.
The chant of the Occupiers," All pigs must die" can be universally applied.
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where so many Africans began their forced journey to this hemisphere.
Africans traped and sold africans as slaves yet it’s the white who must take all the blame.
It appears that blacks can never blame a black for anything.
> where so many Africans began their forced journey to this hemisphere
He forgot to mention that the forced journey really began when Moslem tribesmen invaded villages and took the survivors to be sold as slaves, to the East, as well as to the West and North.
The Moslem-run African slave trade continues to this day.
Because 0bama0 is not a descendent of African-American slaves, and because his father was a Kenyan Moslem, it is very likely that 0bama0 is a descendent of African SLAVE TRADERS!
ROFL and lol.
I believe Shakira’s from... Columbia.
Just sayin’
And when a colony for freed American slaves was established in the independent Republic of Liberia, they choose to have a Constitution just like the US does, not Communism or Socialism or other Wealth Redistribution;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia
In 1820, the American Colonization Society (ACS) began sending black volunteers to the Pepper Coast to establish a colony for freed American slaves.[5] The ACS, a private organization supported by prominent American politicians such as Henry Clay and James Monroe, believed repatriation was preferable to emancipation of slaves.[6] Similar organizations established colonies in Mississippi-in-Africa and the Republic of Maryland, which were later annexed by Liberia. On July 26, 1847, the settlers issued a Declaration of Independence and promulgated a constitution, which created the independent Republic of Liberia.[7][8]
“It appears that blacks can never blame a black for anything.”
Very much like the Muslims!
There’s probably a very enlightening study that could be done on that topic.
Why the distinction between Africans and African-Americans? His daughters are decendents of African-Americans who have lineal roots in Africa. Why not just say they are descendants of Africans, as are most African-Americans?
Definition: Lineal descendant--a blood relative in the direct line of descent.
Who are you to bring logic to this thread?
OK, there was a single shred of truth. His daughter’s great or great-great grandparents may have been slaves. Whoop-dee-doo! My great-great-great Scottish grandparents were just barely more than slaves to the land holders in Scotland and England. The first American-born generation in every line of my family sent boys off to fight to free the black slaves here. And I do mean boys. A 15 yr old in one case.
His daughter’s mother is an African America...so they are descendants of Africans (through Obama’s father - 25%), African Americans (through Michelle - 50%) but also of white Americans, whom Obama leaves out, through his own mother - 25%.
He has wholly rejected that part of his own ancestory as evidenced by his ideology and presidency. He wants to treat it like it does not exist.
But the truth is that his daughters are 1/4 white...and always will be.
Nothing wrong with any of this, except the part about him turning to marxism and Black “liberation” in an effort to “fundamentally change”...and destroy...America.
THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm
The question is what Obama left out.
The question is what Obama left out.
“0bama0 is a descendent of African SLAVE TRADERS!”
Imagine that. Obama’s ancestors selling Al Sharpton’s ancestors into slavery. Of course Sharpton’s ancestors were probably easy to catch and had to be sold at a discount.
The problem with this analogy is that Obama is not visiting a country in which he is a descendant ... unless you know something we don’t.
That's close, but there's another way to look at this that really tells us what Obama thinks of himself.
No, it isn’t an exact correlation, but very similar.
Always has a Hollywood star, singer or musician to prop him up.
Again, invoking the “my daughters” topic when it portrays them as victims of something. Otherwise, “...my daughters and wife are off limits!”
I’m sorry, but these questions aren’t really what this thread is about.
That’s an interesting thought, but this is about how Obama identifies himself. Remember, the reporter said Obama was talking about his own ancestry ... which obviouisly wasn’t true, but in the comment, Obama gives something away. It’s a lot like his “my Muslim faith” comment from a couple of years ago.
I don’t think this was a “Freudian slip.” Instead, I think it was something that he deliberately said because he thought it would make him look good - similar to the time Hillary Clinton told the people of New Zealand that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, a national hero in that country (even though she was born a few years before anyone ever heard of him.)
You said it perfectly my friend. Obama comes from the very Muslim Blacks that sent other non-Muslim Blacks into forced slavery across North America, South America, the Caribbean, the United Kingdom and the entire Middle East and North Africa, where Muslim slave trade goes on today, unabated. American Blacks live in forever denial, but....it’s the Obama kind that captured and chained them into forced slavery. Sad.....but true!!! Shucks, the Obama years have put millions of American Blacks in permanent economic slavery on the Obama slave plantation!!! Go figure!!!
Well gee, forgive me for reading the details...and then why didn’t you tell us what it’s all about or what you wanted to discuss about this article when you had the chance to comment at post #1? That was your chance...
You have zeroed in on the most frightening aspect of Obama’s pronouncement. What, exactly, does it mean? Does it mean that whoever owns the land now (one hundred-plus years later) is going to be forced to give it up to “the descendants of former slaves” — who likely never owned the land in the first place?
And, significantly, what does this portend for the US if Obama is reelected? He has now said he favors taking land from its current owners to “return” it to the “descendants of former slaves.” If — no, make that when — applied in the US, it will mean that the government will dictate what land it decides should belong to “the descendants of former slaves.”
And then, the tyrannical confiscation and redistribution of land will begin with ruthless ardor.
Pictures of Shakira, for one thing.
I quoted exactly what was relevant and set it up in the header. There wasn’t anything to add in Post No. 1. The reporter said Obama was talking about his own ancestry ... which has little if anything to do with slaves and the history of slave trade. That’s part of the point. The other point is that Obama makes a self-identification that is goes against the nature of one being a U.S. president.
I’m going onto explain it is also not good etiquette not to comment, or tell us about what you think of an article you have posted, at the given post #1, for the initial poster’s comment.
Unless it is a situation similar to where you wish to pass some important information and have to leave for work. Clearly not the case here. Let me compare it to what Rush terms the “drive-by-media”.
Don’t be offended, just understand where others are coming from. Some don’t have time to read entire articles because they are leaving for work, and others don’t like leaving this web site to read an article in it’s entirety at an unknown web site. And you wish to make a point, and this is where you have cheated yourself, by not using the opportunity given at post #1.
Aw shucks, maybe his hips will do what hers do now...not lie? Ha! She’s a radical socialist, and he’s one too.
We so desperately need him outta office in November...
The greater probability is his muslim side was probably involved in trading of slaves....
True. And East Africans, especially Muslim East Africans and Kenyans were the key perps in the slave trade. They took, sold and traded slaves. In fact, Kenya's recalcitrance in ending the trade is why the British finally had to occupy and colonize them in the last quarter of the 19th century.
And quite possibly why Zer0's father's family holds a multi-generational grudge against the Brits. The slave trade at that time was not only highly profitable but produced fringe benefits such as the right to cherry pick through the most comely women captors to add to your harem. Failure to understand this fact means failure to understand the anti-colonial Kenyan mindset.
I’m not offended at all. I already explained that everything any poster needs to know is quoted in the OP. Nobody has to read the entire article.
Your post brings to mind the actions of Mugabe...Very frightening in deed. So frightening, we must sit on the sidelines and allow him to remain in office!
...Sold into slavery predominantly by muslims, then came to the new world where one of their descendents eventually became President of the United States.
Yet a majority of these progeny are still filled with rage for what they’ve laragely let their lot become, and would return this their fortune once more to the squalor of their origins.
Shakira is from Colombia, but is not “Afro-Colombian”.
Her mother is Hispanic, and her dad I believe immigrated there from Lebanon. She supposedly developed her belly-dancing routine doing the floor show in his Lebanese restaurant.
“What’s missing??”
If George Zimmerman is white Hispanic, then Obama and his kin are white, Muslim AA.
He considers his mother's status as irrelevant to who he is. He is basically saying that he only regards his African Ancestry as defining him, and he is in no part an American.
Of course this is just an offhand comment, so I wouldn't put to much stock in it. I think he tries to tailor his message to the audience, and while he's aware of his mother's American contribution to his existence, he saw no benefit it mentioning it.
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