Skip to comments.Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.
|Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America||y||y||n|
|Defended Roe v Wade as settled law||y||y||n|
|Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok||y||y||n|
|Supported planned parenthood||y||y||n|
|Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion||y||y||n|
|Supports homosexual agenda||y||y||n|
|Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in Scouts||y||y||n|
|Ok with homosexuals in military||y||y||n|
|Supported and still supports global warming hoax||y||y||n|
|Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban)||y||y||n|
|Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty)||y||y||n|
|Is undeniable father of RomneyCare||n||y||n|
|Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare||n||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is great!||y||y||n|
|Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution"||n||y||n|
|Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional||y||y||n|
|Still believes individual mandate ok at state level||y||y||n|
|Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level||n||y||n|
|Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights)||?||y||n|
|Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there||y||y||n|
|Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary||y||y||n|
|Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax)||n||n||y|
|Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate)||n||n||y|
|Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year||n||n||y|
|Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated||n||n||y|
|Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits||n||n||y|
|Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment||n||n||y|
|Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people||n||n||y|
|Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry||n||n||y|
|Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights||n||n||y|
|Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges||y||y||n|
|Will challenge activist judiciary||n||n||y|
|Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up||n||n||y|
If Obama could pull a switch and become the next Hitler that easily...WHY in the world would he risk running for reelection now? Why not pull the "evil dictator" switch this year to ensure he can't be voted out? And what would stop him from doing that if Romney wins while he's a lame duck if it's that easy? Yes we all hate Obama and know his policies will cause harm to the country. But it's not that easy to become a dictator of the U.S.A. or probably even possible.
We got Samuel Alito after congressional Republicans told Bush "hell no!" on Harriet Miers.
There's always hope.
The people that should be worrying are the GOPe for doing this, Patriots have been rock solid in their opposition to voting for Romney, not only because he sucks, but he can't win.
Put the pressure on where it belongs GOPe.
Yup, I agree all our effort should go to the Congressional races and we should sit out the presidency. It’s just sadly ironic that we now agree with exactly where George Will was a month ago.
I think much of the argument can be summed up as:
One side thinks the other underestimates how bad Romney will be, and one side thinks the other underestimates how bad Obama will be.
That you, KrispyKreme?
Jim Robinson shows Newt is a pretty good fit to the Tea Party values: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2818986/posts?page=38#38
You could start your education with the above, if you were sincerely seeking information about topics you show ignorance or deception over.
I remember having that exact argument with Freepers who thought it perfectly fine to vote for Joe Lieberman in Connecticut a few years ago. "The Republican doesn't have a chance", they proclaimed. Better to get Joe than the REALLY liberal Democrat who won the primary. I said then that Joe was a socialist and part of the socialist Democrat party, and I would not suggest that conservatives vote for him because he is slightly less socialist than someone else.
Next time, our choices will be between Obama and Stalin, and there will be some Freepers saying we better vote for Obama and hold our nose.
> Another load of steaming crap from a Romney proponent.
I am *NOT* a Romney proponent!
Right now, I’m considering writing-in Sarah Palin or Ron Paul for the General Election.
> The use of extreme exaggeration and hyperbole
The way things are going with 0bama0 and his Chicago thugs, the Black Pampers, Je$$e Jack$on, Al $harptongue, CAIR, and the VAST numbers of illegals, in our midst, not to mention the RAMPANT vote fraud, I don’t think that what I said is extreme exaggeration or hyperbole.
If (when?) the dollar collapses, I’m figuring that ammunition will be more fungible as currency than gold or even silver.
The party didn't make the field weak and didn't make voters split the notRomney vote. The weak field and lack of unity in opposition got us here.
The party ain't the problem. Re-electing Obama fixed nothing before will fix nothing next time.
massive brainwash of majority of electorate?
barring that, Newt is going no where. thats the reality.
We Freepers may be “few” in the grand scheme of things, but I have every intention of copying that chart and mailing it far and wide.
If we all did so....
Who is the Constitution Party and/or (gag) Libertarian party candidates?
I’d vote for either over Romney, even the pot-smoker from New Mexico. He’s a pro-abort, but woudl leave it to the states, and people would have to pay for it themselves. Sadly, that’s a huge improvement.
He said only in the last 24 hours before the vote that he decided he would “probably vote yes,” after being against it and opposing it the entire week before, even calling it the worst kind of socialism in that Hannity interview, and proposing a much different plan. That’s all a very important qualification to put in there rather than just saying he “supported TARP.” The nuance is important.
So, you think its wrong to vote for the opponent if the opponent is Romney..........? Wouldn’t that insure an Obama victory? So.......whats a person to do? The Pope isn’t running!
Until Willard snaps up the GOP delegates he needs, count me in the Newt camp. After that, count me in the 3rd Party camp and a pox on both their houses.
I don't know, who will they vote for? A guy who believes in God or a guy who believes in Allah and has openly mocked on tape those who "bitterly cling to their god?"
Since there is no difference between Romney and BHO who are you going to vote for?
If Gingrich is still on the ballot when the primary reaches California I will vote for him.
In the general I will not vote between a democrat communist and a Republican socialist/communist pretending to be a conservative.
All other offices yes, president no.
My point was that in addition to those mentioned by Jim, there are other points worth consideration. We have to survive as a nation for any post-2012 strategy to have meaning. I, for one, still believe the world is a dangerous place. And unilateral disarmament will leave us vulnerable to foreign aggression. 'Peace through strength' is how Reagan put it.
So there are domestic concerns and there are foreign policy concerns. Each category bears on our future.
Who is the candidates for these parties that we are to all support? Or does it matter?
What about Eric Holder, Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, Anita Dunn, Carol Browner, Valerie Jarrett, Kevin Jennings, and Elizabeth Warren (to name 10)? We aren’t just voting for a President.
Believe whatever you want about Mitt. If these people are stupid enough to believe that Romney would populate his administration with avowed Communists, then God help us all.
Bump to use!
It is arresting to imagine a Romney White House, inevitably filled with as many former Bain colleagues as each of his other public ventures have been: The PowerPoints, the 80-20 jargon, the clinical separation of decision-making from ideology, the detachment of those decisions from moral consequence, a persistent blind spot for people as people. It would represent the final ascension of a perfectly American type, one that has already remade the culture of business. I once asked a Bain colleague of Romneys how Romney thought of his own core competence. I think Mitt thinks hes good at being Mitt Romney, the colleague said.
You know what they say about that third exclamation point, right? Only... challenged people use it.
Thank you! Great list!
Fortunately those with eyes can see the ‘obvious’ choice is Newt over Romney....and in the General Newt will slay the dragon!
Go Newt Go!!!!!
I beg your pardon? Would you mind rewording that, or is your intent to insult my personal relationship with Christ?
What can we do from here to get him on top? Any ideas other than throwing money at him?
Okay, I am a bigtime Newt supporter but that description is fine with me, "by far the least worst". You want to support Newt cause he's the least worst - I am grateful. We'll take all the "least-worst" votes we can get. And thank you so much for yours!!! You are a realist and a patriot.
Here is something you can do, but the clock is ticking and NEWT NEEDS YOU NOW!!!!
How you can help:
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Donate as much as you can, as often as you can, every little bit helps.
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Out of curiosity, are there excuses for all of that too? I’m just curious.
Lots and lots of foreplay though...
I know what kind of judges Romney nominated at governor of an extremely liberal state with an extremely liberal state legislature that he had to face. And I know what kind of judges Obama has nominated as President of the United States. You can shove that "Romney supporter" crap up your ass. I'm not going to join in on the pro-Obama cheerleading that is currently taking places on this forum.
Unlike it seems many here, I don't want four more years of the most destructive President this nation has ever suffered.
Says it all.
mormonism has mocked God Almighty/Christianity since its foundation, and Romney has been and most likely always be part of that corporation.
Romney is as left wing as BHO, that is how he governed, that is how he lives his life.
“Who is the candidates for these parties that we are to all support? Or does it matter?”
Of course it matters. And I don’t know who it is.
But, yes, I indeed to find out and vote for one of them or some other 3rd party that is actually conservative.
*EVEN IF* all of that constant “Romney checklist” that’s been going around were true, the last line states that 27 out of 36 judges nominated were liberals. I can guarantee you that Obama would nominate 36 out of the 36 that were as far left as can be. That’s enough for me.
Romney sucks. I have said before and I will say again that the only thing Mitt Romney ever said that I absolutely believed was that he hated the Yankees, which he said once in a debate in 2008. However, I don’t believe he hates this country and I don’t believe he’d load his administration with known Communists and Communist sympathizers.
Why would you think that Romney would appoint to his staff anyone different as president than he did as governor?
Romney and BHO are both left wing.
No prob BG :)
I agree. As someone who has sworn an oath and is currently wearing this nation's uniform, I will put my country over my principles.
You don't think that the GOPe openly supporting Romney and his Millions that were available for is campaign had anything to do with discouraging competetion. Right.
- Superior intellect.... (needed due to the complexities we face today)
- Historical grasp .....(needed badly so as to avoid repeating errors)
- Knowledge of how Washington functions...... (thus, he is not intimidated by the process)
- A repentant heart......( Walked through the needed forgiveness and restoration steps needed to deal with past marital failures and sins.)
- Articulation skills..... (needed in order to serve the presidency)
- Commitment to social, fiscal and constitutional conservatism Elder statesman demeanor in this campaign Churchillian perseverance...... (desperately needed, given the radical secularists)
- Grasp of the correct definition of American Exceptionalism .........(rights given by their Creator to We The People with power temporarily loaned to elected officials)
- Based on the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution ......(something that he articulates better than any elected or previously elected official)
- Understanding of the severity of the loss of religious liberty in present-day America....... (we are on the verge of losing this)