Posted on 04/16/2012 12:03:42 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Mitt Romney leads President Obama in the first Gallup national daily tracking poll.
Romney took 47 percent support from surveyed registered voters, while Obama took 45 in a poll conducted between April 11 and April 15. Romney's edge though is within the poll's three point margin of error.
Independents tipped the scale in favor of Romney, going for the former Massachusetts governor 45 percent to 39.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Well it’s good for Obama to get the boot. As far as Romney goes I won’t have to vote for him. I suspect my state will give him the delegates without needing my help. I will vote for the congresscritters and local stuff.
First its romney so that is bad...It appears he doesnt need my vote to win..so that is good.
You are a brilliant FREEPER. That is true. Romney is winning so I can seriously write in Sarah Palin without guilt. This is great news afterall. I am from Pennsylvania which is a toss up but has gone Dem since 1988 so it is not a factor for me to feel guilty there either. I will vote Newt on the 24th though...
If you are rooting for Obama, you are demented as well.
You are the one who got threatened with being banned for your lies about Mark Levin, as I recall.
this is good news, now we can overturn openly serving homosexuals, and cross dressers, oh wait, ah well we can stop planned parenthood, oh wait he wrote a personal check to them , er well we can stop Govt health care, oh wait will he as he was the blueprint for obamacare.
Well we know for sure he understands the military, oh wait,
ARF, the only difference between them both is different people will get kick backs and our money for their companies, hell Romney will not have the guts to get back the bust of Churchill and put to back where it was.
I’m in the ABROO group.
CNN earlier today had it Obama 61%, Romney 39%. Either way we are doomed.
I'm not voting for that liberal azz-clown Romney, or cheering an Obama victory, either. I will be celebrating the RRL (Romney's record loss). The GOP will be forced to rebuild, or a third party will be born. The next 4 will focus on building a conservative House and Senate.
Same quandary for me. Come election time I want Romney to either be so far ahead or so far behind in my state that he won't need my vote and I can skip that position with a good conscience. Alas, it being New Mexico, presidential races have been close the past few years (except with Obama winning last time) so I may have to decide NOT to leave that lever un-pulled.
And it is probably worth remembering that most of the undecided vote typically breaks against the incumbent...
CNN has Obama 9 ahead, so this is better.
Well, FUMR...
A double no: not a supporter of communists, and never been threatened with banishment for any reason.
Good point. If that's the case, they might as well be shouting...'Four More Years!"
I know what Romney’s organization did.
Romneys Bain Capital Made Billions While Bankrupting Nearly One-Quarter Of The Companies It Invested In
By Pat Garofalo on Jan 9, 2012 at 9:25 am
2012 GOP presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney, who has a large lead in the polls heading into the New Hampshire primary tomorrow, has been taking heat from both Democrats and his Republican challengers for his time at Bain Capital, the private equity firm that he headed. Bains modus operandi was to invest in companies, leverage them up with debt, and then sell them off for scrap, allowing Bains investors to walk away with huge profits while the companies in which Bain invested wound up in bankruptcy, laying off workers and reneging on benefits.
Last week, Reuters profiled one company, Worldwide Grinding Systems, that went belly up after Bain invested in it. The company not only lost 750 jobs, but the federal government had to come in to bail out its pension fund, while Bain walked away with millions in profits.
And according to an analysis by the Wall Street Journal, this was far from an isolated incident. In fact, 22 percent of the companies in which Bain invested wound up either in bankruptcy or shutting their doors entirely, while Bain itself has made billions of dollars for its investors:
The Wall Street Journal, aiming for a comprehensive assessment, examined 77 businesses Bain invested in while Mr. Romney led the firm from its 1984 start until early 1999, to see how they fared during Bains involvement and shortly afterward.
Among the findings: 22% either filed for bankruptcy reorganization or closed their doors by the end of the eighth year after Bain first invested, sometimes with substantial job losses. An additional 8% ran into so much trouble that all of the money Bain invested was lost. [...]
The Journal analysis shows that in total, Bain produced about $2.5 billion in gains for its investors in the 77 deals, on about $1.1 billion invested. Overall, Bain recorded roughly 50% to 80% annual gains in this period, which experts said was among the best track records for buyout firms in that era.
Adding insult to injury, Bain would hide its profits in tax havens, not even paying the rate it was supposed to on the profits it made laying off workers.
Federal Aid
The US Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp, which insures company retirement plans, determined in 2002 that GS (Steel) had underfunded its pension by $US44 million. The federal agency, funded by corporate levies, stepped in to cover the basic pension payments, but not the supplement the union had negotiated as a hedge against the plant’s closure.
For Joe Soptic, who worked at the plant for 28 years, that meant a loss of $US283 per month, about 22 per cent of his pension. Others lost up to $US400 per month, according to documents supplied by the union.
Comparatively, the GS bailout was one of the pension guarantor’s smaller hits. The federal fund swung from a $US7.7 billion surplus to a $US3.6 billion deficit that year as it struggled to cover bankruptcies in the steel and transportation industries. The failure of LTV Steel, for example, cost the agency $US1.9 billion.
The agency’s woes prompted Congress in 2006 to require companies to contribute more toward their pensions. Press accounts said this change accelerated the shift away from pension plans toward 401(k)s and other defined-contribution retirement plans that offer less security for workers.
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The description “Robber Baron” comes to mind. To make matters worse, the man is a fascist who believes in national socialism.
Do you honestly think this is better than the following record of Newt Gingrich?
Newt Gingrich allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy.
Under a Republican president, they [the Republican Congress, including Rick Santorum] added over $3 trillion to the federal deficit, shunned conservative policy in favor of Beltway influence-peddling, and so damaged the GOP brand that we lost the majority Gingrich had worked years to forge.
How much should I really care that Newts fabulous colleagues think his reemergence would be a disaster for Republicans? Lest these characters forget - 2010 was not a merit promotion. They, the Republicans, were the only alternative in town.
Excellent! Gotta have the Indies.
“Only improvement over Obama would possibly be Romneys US Supreme Court justice appointments.”
You’re joking.
Romney as Massachusett’s Governor did not pick conservatives for that state’s Supreme Court. And he won’t choose wisely as President, either.
Romney is a self-professed progressive, a national socialist like Hillary Clinton et al.
” The next 4 will focus on building a conservative House and Senate. “
How optimistic of you. You presume America will survive four more years of Obama. See tagline.
He lost to hoodie wearer, Bobby Rush.
Get over it... I will take Romney over Obama every day, all day.. Do I think Romney was the best pick? no but come on.. Lets get real here..
Obama's Friday the 13th power grab:
Power Grab for Natural Gas New Executive Order
And who will chair this powerful new group?
The former senior VP of La Raza, Cecilia Muñoz. Her particular area of expertise (of course) is immigration policy, which she covered at NCLR for twenty years. Expertise in natural resource development and use?? None, nada. But this is just another attempt by the libs and enviros to shut down fossil fuel use. UP WITH ALGAE!!!
oh no, another Romney bot crybaby!
The good news is that 95% Republicans and Conservatives are going to vote for Romney over Obama and so does a majority of independents which means Obama will be defeated...
I don’t know how anyone can support Obama now. It amazes me that he’s a viable candidate.
I know what you mean and they also look like clueless turkeys.
bye bye what? Are you calling for banning people from this forum because they want vote for Romney over Obama? If that is the case then 90% of the members would be banned...good luck...
That is the key for winning the elections. Like all elections in history he who wins the independents would win the elections...it is that simple...
Please catch a clue. I have never said I was a Romney supporter but go on labeling people. You’re good at that.
Go back to DU.
“I dont know how anyone can support Obama now. It amazes me that hes a viable candidate.”
I’m surprised that Obama’s approval rating is over 20%.
Fear is a great motivator along with high gasoline prices, rising food prices and falling wages.
The economy is sinking Obama right now along with RINO media inspiring fear of his leftist beliefs.
Romney could win this thing if he wins the nomination.
In fact, Newt could win if he wins the nomination.
But a bottom line scenario is the debt bubble bursting at some point with Washington politicians of both parties imposing higher taxes on us along with entitlement program cuts.
“I dont know how anyone can support Obama now. It amazes me that hes a viable candidate.”
The answer is simple: Too many creatures vote for a living.
Yep. And I’ll speculate that either the “baby daddy” or the “U.S. ATM Card” a.k.a. “we the taxpayers” are paying for them.
Time to unleash the Death Star.
Would you rather have Obama?
Do you know how stupid you look by copying the owner of the forum in your replies as an action by you to intimidate other members?...Well I do not get initimiated by anyone and if I am going to be banned for saying that the right thing is to vote for Romney over Obama then be it...and you can go ahead and enjoy my banning...
“Too many creatures vote for a living.”
Good point. I recall one Freeper referring to them as “Entitlement Zombies.”
What's sad is I think the much better candidates (Palin the non-candidate, Cain, Perry, and Gingrich should also have beaten Obama and we'd have a much better POTUS.
Look at all the “Blue” states: The union (public and private) employees and the “gimme” crowd are either parallel with or outnumber the producing taxpayers.
It’s THE commonality of all “Blue” states.
Another good point. It’s the purple states where it will be decided. Virginia and North Carolina are turning purple. On the bright side is that a backlash against Obama’s economic record is building in Pennsylvania and Michigan. The geographic red/blue map we’re used to may have a different pattern this time.
| Issue | Obama | Romney | Newt |
| Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America | y | y | n |
| Defended Roe v Wade as settled law | y | y | n |
| Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok | y | y | n |
| Supported planned parenthood | y | y | n |
| Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion | y | y | n |
| Supports homosexual agenda | y | y | n |
| Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy | y | y | n |
| Ok with homosexuals in Scouts | y | y | n |
| Ok with homosexuals in military | y | y | n |
| Supported and still supports global warming hoax | y | y | n |
| Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) | y | y | n |
| Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) | y | y | n |
| Is undeniable father of RomneyCare | n | y | n |
| Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare | n | y | n |
| Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! | y | y | n |
| Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" | n | y | n |
| Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional | y | y | n |
| Still believes individual mandate ok at state level | y | y | n |
| Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea | n | y | n |
| Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level | n | y | n |
| Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) | ? | y | n |
| Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there | y | y | n |
| Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary | y | y | n |
| Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) | n | n | y |
| Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) | n | n | y |
| Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year | n | n | y |
| Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated | n | n | y |
| Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated | n | n | y |
| Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits | n | n | y |
| Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment | n | n | y |
| Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people | n | n | y |
| Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry | n | n | y |
| Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights | n | n | y |
| Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges | y | y | n |
| Will challenge activist judiciary | n | n | y |
| Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up | n | n | y |
That is 100% correct...
“Its the purple states where it will be decided. Virginia and North Carolina are turning purple.”
Yes - the assholes from MA, NY, CT, etc. pollute those states.
PA, MI and OH could all go GOP this election, making up for VA and NC. That’s where a VP from one of those “Rust Belt” states could loom HUGE.
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