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Kessler to Newsmax: Secret Service Prostitutes May be Underage Girls
NewsMax ^ | April 16, 2012 | Martin Gould and John Bachman

Posted on 04/16/2012 2:49:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Investigators probing the Secret Service prostitute scandal are looking into whether any of the girls involved were underage, Ronald Kessler, the journalist who broke the story, tells Newsmax.TV exclusively.

Kessler warned that more scandalous details of the Colombian cavorting are still to come, including the age of the prostitutes.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

Kessler, Newsmax’s chief Washington correspondent, broke the story of the scandal over the weekend. The details have since been confirmed by the Secret Service, and President Barack Obama has called for an investigation.

Up to a dozen agents were sent home from Cartagena, Colombia, where the president was attending the Summit of the Americas.

Kessler, whose reporting partly led to the dismissal of FBI Director William Sessions in 1993, said Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan also needs to be fired, especially as this is the second major scandal he has presided over. He was also in charge when three intruders wormed their way past security to attend a 2009 White House dinner in honor of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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KEYWORDS: colombia; obama; scandal; secretservice
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1 posted on 04/16/2012 2:49:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This just gets better and better.

Don’t any of these guys have daughters?


2 posted on 04/16/2012 2:50:48 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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It gets better and better...

At least they had their security clearances pulled and are banned from any US-SS office on the planet per a story linked on Drudge.


3 posted on 04/16/2012 2:51:45 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Secret Service sexual tourism eh?

Nice one, Barry. You should give your men a medal though, right? Man ought to be able to love who he wants right? Who are we to judge, right?

Wonder if any of those girls were the same age as his offspring...


4 posted on 04/16/2012 2:53:04 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama did not want it publicized, I don’t think the papers would not have printed the story. This leads me to think that it was a setup.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 2:53:04 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Jonty30

> Don’t any of these guys have daughters?

Doesn’t matter to a pervert.


6 posted on 04/16/2012 2:53:12 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well now, isn’t that special?


7 posted on 04/16/2012 2:53:58 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Jonty30

These are the young single men with no chemical vices who are ready to leap in front of a bullet to save the President or other high officials.Or are they? Whatever if they ever looked up wise “Latina” they’d get this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=latina&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=993&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=UZSMT9-3C6XY2QXd1N3tCQ and some of them might even be underage.


8 posted on 04/16/2012 2:56:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jonty30

These are the young single men with no chemical vices who are ready to leap in front of a bullet to save the President or other high officials.Or are they? Whatever if they ever looked up wise “Latina” they’d get this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=latina&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=993&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=UZSMT9-3C6XY2QXd1N3tCQ and some of them might even be underage.


9 posted on 04/16/2012 2:56:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Keith in Iowa
At least they had their security clearances pulled and are banned from any US-SS office on the planet per a story linked on Drudge.

They had better be. With so many it is not just an idle random occurrence. Some foreign intel service was probing the security around POTUS. Not with innocuous intent either, I'm sure.
10 posted on 04/16/2012 2:56:54 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Underage? The age of consent in Colombia is eight.


11 posted on 04/16/2012 2:57:41 PM PDT by Publius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

May?

Prove it.

NAME. What is her name and background?


12 posted on 04/16/2012 2:58:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Some foreign intel service was probing the security around POTUS.”

Must have been the legendarily secretive Elbonian Secret Service. How else would have considerd using girls to get to Baraka Hussein?

Baraka likes boys.

Silly Elbonians!


13 posted on 04/16/2012 3:00:49 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That was my first thought too - being caught with girls (now we learn, underage girls) is a good start on blackmail against someone close to POTUS.

And who thinks this is the FIRST time this has happened?


14 posted on 04/16/2012 3:00:49 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: PapaBear3625
This leads me to think that it was a setup.

I think he is purging the SS of 'true believers'. Replacing them with his affirmative action compadres.

15 posted on 04/16/2012 3:01:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks more and more like an Obama setup.


16 posted on 04/16/2012 3:08:05 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: UCANSEE2

“I think he is purging the SS of ‘true believers’. Replacing them with his affirmative action compadres.”

For his national civilian army?


17 posted on 04/16/2012 3:10:16 PM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: Publius

Age of consent for Columbia is irrelevent.

You cannot just go to other countries as an American and diddle little girls because they say it’s ok.

That is sexual tourism, and that is illegal.


18 posted on 04/16/2012 3:11:31 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh no.

This is worse than I thought. The idea of children being used by our officials is so bad that it will resonate with the rest of the world as “America the Hypocrite” along with our drunken and stupid Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton.

If we don’t get these fools in this admin off the stage, I have no idea how low this country will go.


19 posted on 04/16/2012 3:11:43 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: chris37; Publius

I think Chris (Hansen) 37 just asked you if you would like to take a seat. Right over there.

LOL!!!


20 posted on 04/16/2012 3:16:48 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Damn straight!

Don’t get to do little girls.

As far as I’m concerned, anyone who does this ought to be made to remove and eat their own...

Nevermind.


21 posted on 04/16/2012 3:24:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: UCANSEE2
AT this point of the Info Trail I with you.

Hope they have good lawyers if so, timing of disclosures/allegations is a little early for the election season.

22 posted on 04/16/2012 3:25:55 PM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

How many will be pardoned next January on Obamas exit?


23 posted on 04/16/2012 3:40:10 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (More voices, more power.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if any of them will wind up looking like his daughters?


24 posted on 04/16/2012 3:41:44 PM PDT by BigLittle
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To: muawiyah

If you don’t have safe search enabled that link is most definitely NSFW.


25 posted on 04/16/2012 3:48:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: UCANSEE2

The new guys will be chicago goons...old buddies who are like sons to Obama.


26 posted on 04/16/2012 3:53:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: OpusatFR
“If we don’t get these fools in this admin off the stage, I have no idea how low this country will go.”

Some see a cover up or a conspiracy in this. I am not sure exactly what to think. I think it most likely just reflects very poor morale within the SS unit. A sign of a breakdown in what should be a highly disciplined unit.

Whatever it is, I think the Obamination is enjoying this. Just another blow to our stature. Anything that takes the US down a notch is a good day in his agenda...

27 posted on 04/16/2012 3:55:37 PM PDT by Max_850
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To: bigbob

Some of you need to learn how to read the news. When a journalist writes that something “may be” true and that potentially scandalous details are “still to come,” it means he’s making things up to get you excited.


28 posted on 04/16/2012 4:07:52 PM PDT by Syllojism
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To: chris37
Age of consent for Columbia is irrelevent. You cannot just go to other countries as an American and diddle little girls because they say it’s ok. That is sexual tourism, and that is illegal.

Please explain. I understand that morally no adult should be having sex with kids and that no person in a position of power should be having sex with their underlings. I also know that no person should be having sex against their free will. That's easy.

Where I break from your thought is this: You are bound by the rules of whatever country you are in. If boinking camels is legal in East Crapistan, you can certainly go find yourself a date the next time you're in town. You might be ridiculed and ostracized for it, and in fact you SHOULD be, but you should not be able to be arrested. If it's legal where you do it, it's legal. Period. To have it any other way leads to disaster. We don't know the ages of these girls, it could be 6 it could be 16, or even 20. Underage is a legal term and by definition, local. Ridicule, scorn, disgust, shame, but not jail.

Sexual tourism generally refers to people travelling to foreign countries to have sex with minors that are not legally able to give consent. That would be illegal and subjuct to arrest. There could even be a law with intent factored in where it is illegal to travel to a country specifically to have sex for hire (or boink camels). In that case they should be arrested if guilty. But if a guy travelled to see the sights of some foreign land and while on vacation happened to find himself doing a drug, shooting a wild animal, boinking a camel or hiring a prostitute where it was perfectly legal to do so, there should be no legal recourse.

Gotta be careful not to fall for the "sounds good" laws. Politicians everywhere use them to stifle freedom. I think there was a case recently in California where a game warden killed an animal on an out-of-state hunt that would have been illegal if killed in California. Should CA be able to arrest and charge him? Some liberals seem to think so.

29 posted on 04/16/2012 4:08:32 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This story makes little sense.

This supposedly occurred at the same hotel the president was to stay at. It is hard for me to imagine that SS agents would go to Columbia, a country not exactly known for it’s premier government security, and pull a stunt this stupid. TWELVE AGENTS?


30 posted on 04/16/2012 4:12:36 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: bigbob

I am waiting for the Main Smut Merchants to report that a bunch of birthers hired these girls and sicked them on the SS in order to get to Obozo’s real identity.

You just can’t trust those birthers.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 4:13:36 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So this means they’ll be able to get jobs as UN Weapons Inspectors?


32 posted on 04/16/2012 4:17:17 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: UCANSEE2; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ...
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Article, then # 15 , # 17 , # 27.

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33 posted on 04/16/2012 4:25:50 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Publius

Actually, it is 14 years old.

Still awfully young by American standards.


34 posted on 04/16/2012 4:34:23 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

You don’t need an explanation of sexual tourism, you know what it is.

If you can’t boink little girls in America, then you can’t fly to Thailand and do it there either, nor can you fly to columbia and do it there either.

Secret Service agents should know this.

If they were doing underage prostitutes in Columbia, then they should be imprisoned for a very long time as the sex offenders they are.


35 posted on 04/16/2012 4:35:31 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Publius
Underage? The age of consent in Colombia is eight.

Just askin, but don't we have laws here that prevent American Citizens from going abroad and exploiting underage children?

I mean us average Joes of course, not politicians and the protected class.

36 posted on 04/16/2012 4:41:09 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper; chris37

Nope. As I understand it, as a US Citizen, you are bound by the laws here as they pertain to prostitution and pedophilia.

U.S. Federal Law Regarding Child Sex Tourism
18 USC 2423 Modified: April 30, 2003 with the passage of the PROTECT Act
http://www.worldvision.org/resources.nsf/main/child_protection.pdf/$file/stp_law.pdf


37 posted on 04/16/2012 4:45:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Bryan24
TWELVE AGENTS?

I heard earlier tday it is up to 50 involved (between Military and SS) I'm going to reserve an opinion for now, something stinks here.

38 posted on 04/16/2012 4:47:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: chris37

“That is sexual tourism, and that is illegal.”

What makes you think it is illegal ? Legality is defined by the laws of the country being visited, so if prostitution is legal for persons of that age, then there is no illegality. Visiting locales where prostitution is legal is immoral but not illegal.

In Columbia, the age of consent is 14, and it doesn’t matter what the age of consent is in the visitor’s home country, it is just the 14 that matters legally in Columbia. Otherwise visitors from Camaroon couldn’t have sex with anyone under 21, and Iranians or Kuwaitis couldn’t engage is sex at any age unless married.

It’s immoral, but it isn’t illegal.


39 posted on 04/16/2012 4:47:14 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Westbrook

Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies...
But I don’t care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shrink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ’cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18poems.html


40 posted on 04/16/2012 4:47:24 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Max_850; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; blackie; ExSoldier; azishot; Nachum; SJackson
I think the Obamination is enjoying this. Just another blow to our stature. Anything that takes the US down a notch is a good day in his agenda...

It's not the first time.....

Secret document found in a gutter

Snip November 18, 2011: A SECRET booklet describing Barack Obama's Australian schedule down to the minute, as well as the breakdown of his security convoy and the mobile numbers of dozens of senior US and Australian officials, was found by the Herald lying on a Canberra street yesterday morning.

41 posted on 04/16/2012 4:49:38 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; chris37

OK, I sztand corrected. This section seems pretty clear:

``(f) Definition.—As used in this section, the term `illicit sexual
conduct’ means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a
person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A
if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial
jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as
defined in section 1591) with a person under 18 years of age.”

How the US expects to police activity among its citizens visiting a foreign country absent any complaint or notification from local police or victim escapes me. Sounds like another bad law on the books, as any unenforceable or victimless crime is a bad law.


42 posted on 04/16/2012 5:00:52 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. So the U.S. Federal Law Regarding Child Sex Tourism in effect sets an age of consent (18) for prostitutes used by Americans abroad. The penalty for a repeat offense can be life in prison.


43 posted on 04/16/2012 5:07:32 PM PDT by TChad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Underage, where? Here, or in Columbia?

This isn't really a matter of law. It's a matter of character. It's been a while since I have been interviewed by the FBI for my security clearances and my friends' security clearances, but my recollection is that back in the 70s and 80s they were most interested in in who one hung around with. Maybe Gary Aldrich would chime in about this?

ML/NJ

44 posted on 04/16/2012 5:31:55 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Kellis91789

Oh yes, it’s real. There are groups of people as well as law enforcement in countries frequented by sexual tourists, such as Thailand, who specifically watch for Americans engaged in this activity.


45 posted on 04/16/2012 5:43:43 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dayum - what do they think they are? The UN?


46 posted on 04/16/2012 5:46:01 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ml/nj

See my post #37.


47 posted on 04/16/2012 5:52:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: PapaBear3625
If Obama did not want it publicized, I don’t think the papers would not have printed the story. This leads me to think that it was a setup.

If it were just one or two, I'd believe it but they've gone too far with their little story. First it was a couple of SS, then it was eleven and then there were an unknown number of military officials. At first it was one prositute and $47 but now there multiple girls and their underage. Then we get some dude in the tub who looks very limp wristed. What's next? Yep, the more that's piled on, the more it stinks like set up.

48 posted on 04/16/2012 7:54:33 PM PDT by bgill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are probably former UN Employees.


49 posted on 04/16/2012 7:55:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: chris37

“That is sexual tourism, and that is illegal.”

Right on!

America does have the right to impose its laws on all, everywhere they go, whatever they do.

Other national laws are meaningless.

Conclusion: When an AgencyPerson makes work for lawyers and assorted govt. trough feeders, beware of their “We’re protectin’ those chilrun”. justification

I suspect them more of wanting control, and an ongoing place at the feeding trough, more than an honest desire to protect children who will be sex workers whether an American or someone else hires their services.


50 posted on 04/16/2012 8:02:36 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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