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Op-Ed: Did the "Palestinians" Kill Jesus?
Arutz Sheva ^ | 16/4/12 | Elena Berezovskaya

Posted on 04/16/2012 3:09:21 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

A writer tells the members of the Christ at the Checkpoint organization that they really must be more consistent - and also accept the resulting conclusions.

Dear Committee of “Christ at the Checkpoint” Conference,

I recently read the written materials of your latest conference in March and was thunderstruck by the assumption (...it is not an assumption any more, but a dogma, in which everyone in your community has to believe) that Jewish people never lived here, and that the whole history of this land is Palestinian history.

Mitri Raheb, in his article, plays with the idea of DNA matching: .....

So here we have Palestinians around for 3000 years in Israel and no Jew until the last century

......

Jokes aside, I have several serious questions to ask you:

1. The name of your conference “Christ at the Checkpoint” means that Jesus was a Palestinian, for whom, you claim, it would be difficult (but not impossible) today to come and see his birthplace Bethlehem because of an Israeli Checkpoint.

But this problem is solved very easily: since he was, for all that, a Jew, it would be really impossible for him to come to and live in Bethlehem (his birthplace) anyway, since Jews are not allowed to live there. They would be murdered on the spot. .....

....if Jews didn’t live here, and the history of this land is Palestinian history only, then Temple was Palestinian, the high priest, who may have wanted to crucify Jesus, was, naturally, a Palestinian, and people in the yard of Pontius Pilate'’s palace, whom you believe cried “Crucify him, crucify him!”, were really Palestinians.

As I wrote before, no Jews around!

.....

Ed. Note: The writer wrote Arutz Sheva that she sent her questions to the conference organizers but has received no response.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bethlehem; christatcheckpoint; dna; mitriraheb
Consistency? This is Zionist gimick, consistency.
1 posted on 04/16/2012 3:09:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

My sin put him on the cross.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 3:12:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

The author makes a good point but its moot.

Didn’t the Hamas people admit that Palestinians were really Egyptians and Syrians?


3 posted on 04/16/2012 3:19:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Eleutheria5

The Romans killed Yashua. A Roman judge (Pontius Pilate) turned Him over to the Roman soldiers who crucified Him.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: GeronL

Only in Arabic, so it doesn’t count.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 3:27:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SkyDancer

Pilate and those involved were a means to an already predicted end.


6 posted on 04/16/2012 3:40:51 PM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: SkyDancer
"The Romans killed Yashua. A Roman judge (Pontius Pilate) turned Him over to the Roman soldiers who crucified Him."

What was it Jesus said to Pilate? - "...Threfore, he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin." Jn 19:11

7 posted on 04/16/2012 3:42:23 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: SkyDancer

At whose request???


8 posted on 04/16/2012 3:43:04 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

You have to ask? Pilate asked who do you want me to free? The Jews didn’t request that Pilate execute Yashua. He gave the Jews a choice. If Pilate, by turning Yashua to be crucified was fulfilling prophecy. Any literate Christian would know that and not condemn Jews for “killing Christ”.


9 posted on 04/16/2012 3:51:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Bruinator

Bingo! Prophecy was being fulfilled. And who actually turned Yashua over to be crucified? Pilate. We Jews have been vilified down through the ages because “we killed Christ” not that “we Jews helped to fulfill prophecy”


10 posted on 04/16/2012 3:53:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: DNA.2012

Palestinians of course


11 posted on 04/16/2012 3:54:32 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: SkyDancer

And who did they choose to condemn to death by crucifixion?


12 posted on 04/16/2012 4:02:02 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

You simply don’t get it do you? The Jews were fulfilling prophecy. Okay??? But yet we were and have been condemned by Christians since then. Christianity is a Jewish sect believe it or not. It’s not a separate religion. Without Christ you wouldn’t have anything. And Yashua is what? Jewish, so what does that make you?


13 posted on 04/16/2012 4:09:34 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Eleutheria5

There were no so called Palestinians at that time ...


14 posted on 04/16/2012 4:22:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Eleutheria5

There were no so called Palestinians at that time ...


15 posted on 04/16/2012 4:22:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Eleutheria5; Revolting cat!

According to President Obama’s minister Jeremiah Wright, it was white Europeans known as “Eyetalians” what killed Jesus.


16 posted on 04/16/2012 4:42:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: Vendome

Precisely the point of the article.


17 posted on 04/16/2012 4:43:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
My sin put him on the cross.

Now you admit to it after 2,000 years? Sheesh! Get a rope, folks!

18 posted on 04/16/2012 4:47:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

That must have been some sin.


19 posted on 04/16/2012 4:49:32 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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20 posted on 04/16/2012 4:53:08 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: SkyDancer

Oh, no. I started a religious debate.

I hadn’t wanted to discuss theology, and I refuse to get sucked into a discussion of theology, just post a novel argument against the Palestinian nonsense that they have been in Israel since before the flood, and we just came yesterday.

I now exit this thread and will not read replies.


21 posted on 04/16/2012 4:55:37 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SkyDancer
Christianity is a Jewish sect believe it or not.

No it isn't.

It’s not a separate religion.

Yes it is.

Without Christ you wouldn’t have anything. And Yashua is what? Jewish, so what does that make you?

Christ is Christian.

22 posted on 04/16/2012 5:11:25 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012
I think you'd better dust off your Bible or whatever it is you use for reference. Christ is Christian?????

Yashua Is Jewish! Being a follower of Yashua makes you a Christian, i.e a follower of Christ!

That's what Christian means.

Wow, now I've heard it all.

23 posted on 04/16/2012 5:22:45 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Eleutheria5
It's all irrelevant.

They say "if we were to do a DNA test between David, who was a Bethlehemite, and Jesus, born in Bethlehem, and Mitri, born just across the street from where Jesus was born, I’m sure the DNA will show that there is a trace. OK, that makes Jesus a Palestinian, doesn't it? And if He was a Palestinian what difference does it make who killed him, or whether he was killed at all? A Palestinian would never be the Messiah!

24 posted on 04/16/2012 6:01:33 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: SkyDancer

Judaism can’t claim Christ, because Judaism rejects Christ.

Very simple.


25 posted on 04/16/2012 6:13:59 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

Really? Well perhaps you’d better again dust off your Bible or whatever you use for reference and check up on the Book of Acts. Then too, read about Peter and Paul. Maybe you’d like to look into Dorcas, find out who she was. Not all Jews rejected Messiah. Here’s a bit of information for you. We Jews were looking for a Conquering Messiah because of the Romans. Yashua came as the Suffering Messiah first. Next time He shows up He’ll be the Conquering Messiah. So no, we didn’t reject Him. Just the priests of the Temple. You have to be Jewish to understand. So I understand your ignorance.


26 posted on 04/16/2012 6:39:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: DNA.2012
Christ is Christian.

Who was born Jewish and taught us all to pray using an exclusively Hebrew formula: "Our Father...."

Moreover, when Jesus commented on hand washing before eating, the Jews of that time couldn't have known anything of microbial theory. But it has always seemed to me that Jesus, were he God incarnate, would, without necessarily revealing anything before it's time, have chosen to wash his hands by the purification custom anyway.

Not that I don't admire Christianity. America could not have been founded without it. But I've long been more interested in the One God of Torah and the Old Testament. Maybe it's more the mystic in me.

27 posted on 04/16/2012 8:52:19 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Eleutheria5

I’m a Freeper. I didn’t read the article before spouting off.

New rules? /S LOL


28 posted on 04/16/2012 9:09:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’m a Freeper. I didn’t read the article before spouting off.

New rules? /S LOL


29 posted on 04/16/2012 9:10:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Eleutheria5
Will you take a personal question, Eleutheria 5?

What happened to Eleutheria 1 thru 4?

30 posted on 04/16/2012 11:40:47 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SkyDancer

The Roman legions in ancient Israel/Palestine were made up of local Auxiliaries led by Roman officers. So the “Roman soldiers” at the crucifixion were very likely ethnic Palestinians.


31 posted on 04/17/2012 12:02:53 AM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: SkyDancer
A Roman judge (Pontius Pilate) turned Him over to the Roman soldiers who crucified Him.

Pilate was in fact a Spaniard by birth, and the post he held was that of praeses (gen. praesidis, whence our "president": literally, "sits before"), the lowest rank of procuratorial officials whose generic designation was praefectus, an invention of Caesar Augustus.

Augustus created the prefectures as a counterweight to, and a control mechanism over, the old Roman republican system of governance by praetors, propraetors, and proconsuls, all of whom were senators, persons in the cursus honorum of the old curule offices of the Republic.

The idea of the prefectures was to create a cadre of civil servants who worked on straight pay, did not strip provinces to enrich themselves as the senatorial officials had typically done, and who received their offices directly from Caesar. The most senior was the prefect of Egypt, and next to him the prefect of the Praetorian Guards in Rome, and after him the fleet prefect at Misenum, on the Bay of Naples facing Pompeii.

32 posted on 04/17/2012 2:17:11 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: zeestephen

Eleutheria is Greek (ancient) for free man. I skipped over the four freedoms of FDR (freedom of worship, freedom from want, etc.), and went straight to the fifth freedom of Lin Yutang: i.e., simple freedom. See Between Tears and Laughter, Doubleday, 1940. The whole book is worth reading.


33 posted on 04/17/2012 7:31:28 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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