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Trayvon Martin's killer showed signs of injury: neighbors
Reuters ^ | April 16, 2012 | Chris Francescani

Posted on 04/16/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - Neighbors of George Zimmerman say he had bandages on his nose and head the day after he shot dead Trayvon Martin, supporting statements by the neighborhood watch volunteer that he was beaten in a confrontation with the black Florida teenager.

The extent of Zimmerman's injuries could be crucial to his legal defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law, which allows the use of deadly force when someone has the reasonable belief he could face death or great bodily harm.

Police said Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder in the racially charged case, was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head and was treated by medics before being taken to Sanford police station after the February 26 shooting.

But public doubts were later raised by the release of a grainy surveillance video from the police station in which no injuries were readily visible.

Zimmerman later sought medical treatment for injuries including a broken nose, his former lawyers have said.

Jorge Rodriguez, Zimmerman's next-door neighbor, told Reuters that when he saw Zimmerman the day after the incident, "he had two big, butterfly bandages on the back of his head, and another big bandage...on the bridge of his nose." He was talking to a police detective in his driveway.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman

1 posted on 04/16/2012 4:39:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Another article stated:

“The neighbors said they spoke to Sanford police and the FBI in their investigations but did not recall speaking to the office of special prosecutor Angela Corey”

Huh?? How in the world can Corey NOT have spoken with the neighbors who eyeballed Zimmerman the next day?


2 posted on 04/16/2012 4:48:17 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder in the racially charged case”.................................. Racially charged for a political reason! That’s all that it is about. The next election will be more about race and gender than the economy. They gotta keep the economy in the background if the Dems. expect to win.


3 posted on 04/16/2012 4:49:15 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Would a person carrying a gun initiate a physical altercation with an unknown,larger opponent?

I didn’t think so.

Self-defense.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 4:50:59 PM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: mtrott

Because they would refute her distortions?


5 posted on 04/16/2012 4:53:14 PM PDT by ~Pandora
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To: mtrott

No need to talk to neighbors - the cops and medics already have records of the injuries.


6 posted on 04/16/2012 4:53:39 PM PDT by donna (3rd largest workforce in the world=UK National Health Service (Chinese Army #1))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Anyone notice the absence of the phrase “alleged killer” in the headline? Zimmerman is described simply as a killer. So much for a presumption of innocence.


7 posted on 04/16/2012 4:56:56 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
“Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder in the racially charged case”

If I'm on my back getting my face modified and my skull being smashed into concrete.......... race is really not on my mind, but shooting is.

8 posted on 04/16/2012 5:00:31 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: donna

Yes, but one would think Corey would want to find out what account of the shooting Zimmerman gave them on the next day. Does it match what he told the police?


9 posted on 04/16/2012 5:05:04 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: umgud

I agree, and I would be screaming with rage until I could find my gun!


10 posted on 04/16/2012 5:10:32 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worse Rinos ever!)
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To: Army Air Corps
Anyone notice the absence of the phrase “alleged killer” in the headline? Zimmerman is described simply as a killer. So much for a presumption of innocence.

Zimmerman's admitted to the killing; there's no need for 'alleged killer." The brouhaha is over the Zimmerman's potential legal defenses to the killing - common law self-defense and the Florida Stand Your Ground Act of 2005.

11 posted on 04/16/2012 5:11:46 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
IF, as has been reported, Z had the injuries he claimed and IF as also been reported the EMS treated said injuries, AND if the autopsy shows no visible signs of injuries to Martin, then all the defense has to do is call the EMS personel to testify and it should be a slam dunk.

NOT GUILTY!!!

12 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:10 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
IF, as has been reported, Z had the injuries he claimed and IF as also been reported the EMS treated said injuries, AND if the autopsy shows no visible signs of injuries to Martin, then all the defense has to do is call the EMS personel to testify and it should be a slam dunk.

NOT GUILTY!!!

13 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:19 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Army Air Corps

bump


14 posted on 04/16/2012 5:16:17 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Neighbors of George Zimmerman say he had bandages on his nose and head the day after he shot dead Trayvon Martin..."

So he shot a dead Trayvon Martin? Grammar school kids have better sentence structure than this whiz kid at Reuters.

15 posted on 04/16/2012 5:22:15 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Scoutmaster

My point is still valid because how many times have we read news reports where the accused is cuaght on video or has confessed to their actions and the media refers to them as “alleged (insert name of offense here)”? Zimmerman receives no such treatment in this piece.


16 posted on 04/16/2012 5:23:45 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is no way an HONEST jury will find Zimmerman guilty.

I don’t expect an honest jury will be found , and even if it is the results will be expensive in many cities, as Jesse and Al stir the pot.


17 posted on 04/16/2012 5:24:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Army Air Corps
What I noticed more is that they didn't use Zimmerman's name at all in the headline, they used Martin's.

How come last week we didn't see a similar headline:

Sharon Tate's Killer Denied Parole.

-PJ

18 posted on 04/16/2012 5:25:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Good point.


19 posted on 04/16/2012 5:25:59 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It ain't "stand your ground" when somebody has punched you to the ground and is smashing your head onto the sidewalk.

The only thing Zimmerman is guilty of is "self-defense while white-Hispanic."

20 posted on 04/16/2012 5:36:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: Army Air Corps
"killer" implies evil....Z protected himself....we could go on all day about if it was wise for him to be out there with a loaded gun following an unknown hooded man....

whatever happened, Z wasn't a killer...he was a shooter...protecting himself, period...

21 posted on 04/16/2012 5:44:25 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Agreed.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 5:47:51 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Venturer

There is no way an HONEST jury will find Zimmerman guilty.............................. I agree, and I wonder how the OJ jury would decide this case?? Duuuuh!


23 posted on 04/16/2012 5:49:51 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Army Air Corps
My point is still valid because how many times have we read news reports where the accused is cuaght on video or has confessed to their actions and the media refers to them as “alleged (insert name of offense here)”?

The "(name of offense here)" is Second Degree Murder. Zimmeman's an alleged murderer, and that's what you'll read in the news report. But he's not an alleged killer. He's admitted killing Martin.

Alleged murderer. Killer, no 'alleged' needed in the media.

24 posted on 04/16/2012 6:12:21 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: donna
No need to talk to neighbors - the cops and medics already have records of the injuries.

That's what I'm thinking. Plenty of hospital folks can testify. This is a useless story.

25 posted on 04/16/2012 6:13:13 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This case is not about “Stand Your Ground.” It is about self-defense, kill or be killed, pure and simple. If George Zimmerman had not been armed, he would have died from the brain injury caused by having his head bashed on the ground.

If you want to see how easy you can be taken out by a sucker punch, watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMc99kal974&feature=endscreen&NR=1

The kid arrested looks about the same age as Trayvon Martin too.


26 posted on 04/16/2012 6:16:30 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Political Junkie Too
What I noticed more is that they didn't use Zimmerman's name at all in the headline, they used Martin's.

Me too. The title's biased and I'm not surprised.

27 posted on 04/16/2012 6:22:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Scoutmaster

The article does not make any use of the word “alleged” wit respect to Zimmerman and the charge that he faces. Over the years, I have read news stories in which a confessed trangressor is still referred to as “alleged” with respect to their action.

I am not trying to split hairs, but rather note the bias in the headline, let alone any bias in the content of the article.


28 posted on 04/16/2012 6:37:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: mtrott

I don’t think there’s a law against lying to the neighbors.


29 posted on 04/16/2012 7:01:27 PM PDT by donna (3rd largest workforce in the world=UK National Health Service (Chinese Army #1))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

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Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

30 posted on 04/16/2012 7:02:46 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Army Air Corps
"So much for a presumption of innocence."

Presumption of innocence is a legal term and applies in criminal court proceedings ... the judge, jury and court officers. The media and general public have no obligation to recognize someone as innocent until proven guilty. You've got to know the media isn't going to be fair to the story.

31 posted on 04/16/2012 7:12:03 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Especially when race baiting is at stake.


32 posted on 04/16/2012 7:22:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: patriot08

Tragic story but Oklahoma is a comfortably red state. Florida is where the action is.


33 posted on 04/16/2012 7:26:33 PM PDT by 38special (Only fools believe the liberal media)
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To: jonrick46

Now that prosecutors have brought charges against George Zimmerman, you probably think that a jury is going to hear the facts and decide the case. Think again. Under Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, if George Zimmerman can convince a judge that he acted justifiably, he is entitled to immunity from prosecution. That means no jury; no conviction; no jail. Think of it as a big “Get Out of Jail Free” card. It is worth repeating: Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law does not just provide an affirmative defense; it provides immunity. The distinction is extremely significant

http://www.southfloridacriminallawyersblog.com/2012/04/why-trayvon-martins-case-may-not-go-to-a-jury.html


34 posted on 04/16/2012 7:34:36 PM PDT by ironman
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To: mtrott

I wonder if Angela Corey is on the rolls as an Obama supporter??


35 posted on 04/16/2012 7:35:59 PM PDT by citizen (Romey doubters: Better check your Obama yard sign. The neighbor's dog just took a leak on it..again.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"self-defense while white-Hispanic."

Then that makes Obama a white-Black.

36 posted on 04/16/2012 7:39:54 PM PDT by citizen (Romney doubters: Better check your Obama yard sign. The neighbor dog just took a leak on it...again.)
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To: ironman

I have read that if Zimmerman fulfills the requirements of “Stand Your Ground,” the trial will be thrown out and over. I wonder about civil action. There was a civil trial for OJ after the criminal trial found him not guilty.


37 posted on 04/16/2012 7:42:51 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: citizen

She’s supposedly a Republican, and the jails are overflowing with the people she has prosecuted.


38 posted on 04/16/2012 9:38:32 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: jonrick46

>>I have read that if Zimmerman fulfills the requirements of “Stand Your Ground,” the trial will be thrown out and over. I wonder about civil action. There was a civil trial for OJ after the criminal trial found him not guilty.<<

Florida’s self-defense law would give him complete protection from civil damages.


39 posted on 04/17/2012 5:47:59 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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