(But I guess CNN uses "Polling By Two Kids With a Cell Phone and a PC, Inc." now.)
Posted on 04/16/2012 4:41:23 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
(CNN) - President Barack Obama holds a nine-point lead over Republican challenger Mitt Romney thanks in part to the perception that the president is more likeable and more in touch with the problems facing women and middle class Americans, according to a new national poll.
A CNN/ORC International poll released Monday also indicates a large gender gap that benefits Obama, but the public is divided on which candidate can best jump-start the economy.
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...
And look, they're polling "internationally". Guess Americans who can vote didn't quite give them the numbers they wanted. CNN/ORC? Obama Reelection Committee?
Barack Obama is a douchebag like Kanye West.
He is not a likeable fellow.
The MSM will create all the perceptions that Obama needs.
Mitt Romney is probably the easiest target ever.
(But I guess CNN uses "Polling By Two Kids With a Cell Phone and a PC, Inc." now.)
Maybe they polled Free Republic...
OK, J/K, but it is funny!
Who finds Hussein “likable”?
yep, Obama is a nasty piece of work. Everyone is hoping that Romney will be an improvement. They are hoping he is just your everyday garden variety sleezoid egotistical politician who won’t run the stake through the heart of America.
Obama is anywhere from 9-13 points ahead depending on the poll. We can make all the usual fun we want, and the claim that all the polls are rigged, but the fact remains Romney is a disaster. An unmitigated disaster. And the GOP is going to get slaughtered in Nov because of it.
Santorum 2012
As a woman....I just don’t believe this gander gap thing. I believe it is a contrived, non-true tactic used by the Dumb Democrats.
Heck, some people even like lizards, rats, spiders and snakes?
Not that I would ever suggest our FASCIST, Narcissistic, Neo-Commie, Islamofascist-appeasing, Community-Agitator-in-Chief, who is working diligently to destroy this Great Republics, is like any of the above?
Nope, what it goes to prove that (P.T. Barnum?) was spot on when he was supposed to have said you "Can fool most of the people some of the time."
.. more likeable and more in touch with the problems facing women and middle class Americans ..
I believe you have captured the essence of this election. If Obama is repudiated, then "tomorrow is another day." If Obama is re-elected, there will not be a tomorrow, recognizable to the averge American.
LOL. Last I looked at one of their polls, they had Democrats outnumbering Republicans something like 53 to 42 percent or some such outrageous number.
Screw CNN.
Wonderful news!!! Outstanding!!!
I was starting to get nervous. A couple of polls had Romney pulling ahead. How can we teach the GOP Establishment a lesson if Romney manages to beat the most destructive, America-hating, Marxist president this nation has ever suffered? That certainly wouldn't work!
CNN poll = CNN Obama campaign ad
The people living in this country these days sure aren't very bright.
This poll is so far away from the just released Gallup {which leans forward and left} that it is not even credible enough to be called a poll.
This should be referred to as a cnn fabrication.
It is whistling past the graveyard and I hope they do it all the way until the election.
Poor CNN. They can’t afford to do a real poll anymore, so they’re polling the newsroom instead.
There is NO CNN poll that will EVER show anything but Liberal/Marxist/Progressive/Democrat/Faggot-based vote results in their favor. Look at their audience, like any news organization, and the polls will show their colors.
If America reelects thid DAN, then we are all in deep doo doo
If America reelects this DAN, then we are all in deep doo doo
The Founders did not give the women the right to vote, the 19th. Amendment did in Aug 18th, 1920.
The founders were seldom wrong.
Guess I am just lucky.../s
Yep..
By the time the calls are made on the east coast and Central time zone, this will be a done deal... Obama will have gotten his 270. Romney is simply the preferred lamb led to slaughter.
This is the first candidate I can remember who literally has no discernible base of support. That`s the payback for Romney`s being all over the political map on just about every issue. Bob Dole at least had senior citizens and veterans.
It`s amazing to think just a few months ago, this was regarded as a winnable election...
He’s certainly keeping the debt regime going longer for “middle class Americans” (most of them dependent on government for incomes).
So you don't believe actual facts? This "gender gap thing" has held true to the Democrats benefit for a very long time now. From Wikipedia:
In 1996 Bill Clinton raked in 11 percentage points more women than men, 54% of all women and 43% of all men voted for Clinton. The only other president to get a higher women vote was Barack Obama with 56%.[3] This gap has serious significance. Bill Clinton won with 49.2% of the popular vote or 47 million votes. Fifty-four percent of all women voters voted for Bill Clinton. While men were split 43% Clinton, 44% Dole and 10% Perot. The Clinton – Dole divide was insignificant among men, only 1 percentage point. However among women that gap is 54% of women voting for Clinton to 38% of women voting for Dole. In terms of votes that is 11 million votes. Bill Clinton defeated Bob Dole with just over 8 million votes.
Women also favored Al Gore to Bush by 11 points and John Kerry to Bush by 3 points.
Were it not for women voters, Obama would have defeated McCain by only 1%.
So yeah, there is a very significant gender gap and it is made even worse by the fact that more women vote than men.
This poll is a laugh riot. No one believes it. Even CNN. Especially CNN.
Wrong. Willard is ahead in both the recent Rasmussen and Gallup polls. Those are both more likely to be accurate because their sample is made up of likely and registered voters rather than "adults".
And the GOP is going to get slaughtered in Nov because of it.
The election is probably going to be very close. I agree Romney is the underdog, but the economy is not in good shape and that alone gives Mitt a decent shot at winning.
Santorum 2012
Welcome to Tuesday of last week, Santorum has already dropped out. He is not going to be the nominee.
Did they publish the politcal demographics of the poll?
For the CNN one I don’t know. I believe the Rasmussen, Gallup and Fox polls that showed Willard ahead had that information.
I think the big difference is the voter sample. Likely and registered voter screens tend to benefit the Republican candidate. “Adults” tends to capture a lot of young people and minorities who default to the Democrat offering freebies, but rarely actually find their way to the polling station.
The RCP average has Hussein up 3.2% over Romney today which sounds reasonably accurate to me. The CNN poll looks like an outlier, but it is not hard for me to believe that Obama may be leading narrowly.
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I believe you have captured the essence of this election. If Obama is repudiated, then “tomorrow is another day.” If Obama is re-elected, there will not be a tomorrow, recognizable to the averge American. “
Hear, hear.
I saw a comment on another thread, where the poll favored Romney over Obama.
A FReeper actually commented that it was bad news, and added “No Romney, no how.” I kid you not. As if he thinks FR’s stated mission is now to cheer on the America-hating, whitey-hating, missile-defense-eliminating Marxist.
Sick and anti-American.
“Heck, some people even like lizards, rats, spiders and snakes?”
Those creatures are far more honest than either BHO2 or Romney.
That leaves me with some questions:
1. How can such women be soooo stupid?
2. What do they see in such a wimp?
3. WHY the heck aren’t more MEN voting?
I saw “2012” Obama stickers on 4 different cars today. All were driven by women and 3 of the 4 were non-Caucasian.
1. How can such women be soooo stupid?
2. What do they see in such a wimp?
3. WHY the heck aren’t more MEN voting?
Well you are the woman here, so you tell me ;)
I think most studies show pretty conclusively it is because women tend to vote on emotion and men tend to vote on logic. The Democrats specialize in appeals to emotion. The average voter, men and women both, don't know much about specifics. Arguing that we as a nation should spend more on education, healthcare, various social programs, etc is just a very appealing to women. Men tend to look at the numbers and ask "does the program work". Women tend, for whatever reason, to be more receptive to the argument that we should spend more on these things no matter what (or that it is simply good enough that we keep trying no matter how wasteful).
The woman's vote is absolutely critical for Democrats. They need about 55-60% to win an election. Hence the made up "war on women". Sadly though, that stuff tends to work and it is the reason why the Democrats run this same scare tactic every election cycle.
Face it SumProVita, it is your gender that is wrecking everything and giving us all these liberal Democrats! ;) Joking, joking. Republicans really do just need to find a better away to appeal to women. I would suggest a focus on family security - maybe emphasize things that conservatives believe strongly anyway such as a strong military to defend our children, law and order criminal justice policies to keep criminals off the streets, etc.
We need your input on this stuff :)
Logic needs to be applied to the situation. Like it or not, Romney is going to be the GOP POTUS nominee. That’s a fact, not debatable or open to interpretation. Is he Ronald Reagan? God, NO! Personally, do I like him? NO! But, it’s either him or Obama. Writing in “Harvey the Rabbit” or voting “Constitution Party” isn’t going to do anything more than allowing Obama to win again.
And if folks hate him now, just think of what he’ll be like in a lame-duck term.
But remember folks, Newt Gingrich is right out because women don’t like him!
/sarc
But remember folks, Newt Gingrich is right out because women don’t like him!
/sarc
I am in Northern Virginia which was once reasonably conservative and is now pretty much the deep blue area of the state. Sadly as government and government contractors are here, it is a highly transient area with LOTS of jobs. I find most of the escapees from failed Democrat areas tend to migrate here and go right on voting for all the leftists that destroyed their own localities and states. These people simply haven't learned a thing. To them it is just a big mystery why their "progressive" utopias crumbled to the point they had to leave to find work in Virginia.
Anyway, the Obama/Biden stickers are on cars all over the place here. I'd say around 75% of the ones I see are on vehicles women are driving - with all races accounted for. The average Caucasian women here is definitely a likely Obama supporter. No question about it. I hate that this is true, but it is what it is.
Unfortunately, he did not make up the difference with men.
Newt is right out because his campaign is flat broke, he's 4.5 million in the whole, his SuperPac sponsor has abandoned him, he is selling his donor list to raise money (usually a sign of campaign winding down), and is basically just asking for cash to help pay off his campaign debt.
Sadly what I've found, as someone who supported Newt after Perry dropped, is that the very speeches I think are the best, the combative ones where he dissects the media and establishment, are just not received well by most of the conservative minded folks I show them too. People seem to think he is too angry and smug. And yes, none of the women I know (and talked politics with) liked Newt for all a manner of reasons.
Sickening, isn't it? They're like locusts, minus the primal survival skills.
“The average Caucasian women here is definitely a likely Obama supporter.”
Sounds like Northern Virginia is morphing into MA. That's a horrible thing, but again, see your quote above. You explain it perfectly.
I agree this poll is probably garbage. But the whole dynamic about Obama being likable, is I’m afraid, a problem for the GOP and Romney.
The MSM isn’t as powerful as it used to be, it still probably reaches more people than any other source. It still has the power to shape debate and influence perceptions. That Obama is arrogant, that he is hypocritical, that he is a bully, that he is a demagogue, that this ‘post-racial’ figure has a disgraceful race-obsessed Attorney General doing his bidding...none of this will be the narrative put forth by the MSM. It’s all true, but that doesn’t matter. If a Republican had made comments about the Sup Court as Obama did, he would have been savaged by the media.
Romney, on the other hand, is like any Republican facing a Democrat in a general election. To the MSM he is the enemy and must be destroyed.
Despite media bias, Obama is a very vulnerable and beatable incumbent President. So it’s a shame that the GOP’s best didn’t step forward to rid the nation of Obama. Aside from fear or dread of the massive amount of hatred that would be directed at them for beating Obama, I just don’t understand why so many didn’t want to run. (And I’m not talking about Christie, who is awful on the Second Amendment.) But Romney it is. He’s got my vote, and I hope Romney has fight in him and is ready for what’s coming.
Romney has no shot.
***...thanks in part to the perception...***
In part - a small, very small part - like 0.001%
The perception - i.e., not reality.
One thing that ideologically committed voters, right and left, often forget is that a fair number of voters don’t have much of a political philosophy and are greatly swayed by charisma: they could vote for a true-blue conservative or a socialist, as long as he has rock-star charisma, especially if his opponent is a square. Mittens has negative charisma—yet another reason the GOP-E are fools to back him (assuming they actually want to win the presidential election—perhaps they don’t). 0bama has as much of a charisma advantage over Mittens as Clinton did over Popppy Bush and Bob Dole, and we all know how those elections turned out. Many people have remarked upon 0bama’s luck in repeatedly facing weak Republican opponents: from Alan Keyes in his 2004 Senate race to McCain in 2008 and now to Mittens. It’s uncanny.
Romney just has to get to 270. I wish we had a Reagan or even a Gingrich as the likely nominee, but it looks like it’s Romney (barring a convention rebellion). He can lose the overall women’s vote to Obama and still win the election if he can make deep enough inroads in that support so that Obama loses in close states. I think that’s a very obtainable goal.
Santorum 2012
Or 2016, RIghtwardHo!
Who actually "likes" him, personally?
Leftists like his politics, but I've never met anyone who likes HIM.
Even die-hard liberals liked Reagan personally. Look at his friends. All over the political spectrum. Does Obama have any friends? You never hear from them. Heck Clinton had plenty of actual friends.
Well I dont know about unintelligent, but they are certainly not very well informed.
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