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Police handcuff Ga. kindergartner for tantrum
Yahoo News ^ | April 17, 2011 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2012 7:22:38 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy

Edited on 04/17/2012 8:23:20 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. (AP) Police in Georgia handcuffed a kindergartner after the girl threw a tantrum and the police chief defended the action.

The girl's family demanded Tuesday that this central Georgia city change policy so that other children aren't treated the same way. They say the child was shaken up by being put in a cell at the police station.


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If you venture down into Georgia be on the lookout for this very scary 6 year old.


1 posted on 04/17/2012 7:22:45 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

She should have never torn into that box of donuts.

2 posted on 04/17/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Crystal Mangum part Deux..........


3 posted on 04/17/2012 7:26:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

What does Selecia’s FATHER have to say?


4 posted on 04/17/2012 7:27:17 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Just another excuse to put a black person in jail.


5 posted on 04/17/2012 7:28:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Cops have handcuffs small enough for a six year old?


6 posted on 04/17/2012 7:29:09 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Perhaps the handcuffs were tight enough and the holding cell scary enough to give Salecia some pause.

I’m surprised the name of the six year old perp was released.


7 posted on 04/17/2012 7:29:42 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

From WIKI:

Crystal Gail Mangum (born July 18, 1978)[1] is an African-American woman who is best known for making false allegations of rape in the Duke lacrosse case. As of April 2011, she is being held on murder charges related to a fatal attack on her boyfriend.

Mangum was born and grew up in Durham, to a father who drove trucks. In 1993, at age 14, she claimed to have been kidnapped by three assailants, driven to Creedmoor, North Carolina, and raped. One of those she accused was her boyfriend, who was 21 at the time. She filed a police report making these allegations in late 1996. She subsequently backed away from the charges, a move relatives claimed was motivated by fear for her life. Mangum’s father says he does not believe any such incident occurred involving force, though her mother believes a similar incident could have occurred- but three years later rather than in 1993.[1]

After graduation from high school in 1996, she joined the U.S. Navy. She served for less than two years before being discharged from the service after becoming pregnant.[1]

By 2002 Mangum had returned to Durham and was working as a stripper. In 2003, she was arrested on ten charges after stealing the taxicab of a customer she had given a lap dance. This prompted a police pursuit at moderate speeds of up to 70 miles per hour, though occasionally in the wrong lane. After being stopped, she attempted to run over a police officer, succeeding only in hitting his patrol vehicle. She was found to have a BAC of just over twice the legal limit. Ultimately, she pled guilty on four counts, serving three weekends in jail, paying $4,200 in restitution and fees, and being given two years probation.[1]

In 2004 she gained an associate’s degree from Durham Technical Community College, and subsequently enrolled full-time at North Carolina Central University in police psychology.[1]

After arriving, intoxicated, with a fellow stripper for a strip tease at a house rented by two of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team captains, she became involved in an argument with the occupants of the house, and left. After becoming involved in an altercation with her fellow stripper that necessitated police assistance, she made a false allegation of rape. District Attorney Mike Nifong, up for reelection, pursued the case despite questions about the credibility of Mangum,[2] and exculpatory evidence that demonstrated that while Mangum had sexual intercourse with a number of partners that night, none were the Duke lacrosse players.[3] It took nearly a year for the attorney-general’s office to dismiss the charges and declare that the players were innocent of the charges laid against them by Nifong.[4]

Just before midnight on February 17, 2010, Durham police were called to Mangum’s residence by her nine-year old daughter. When they arrived, they said they found Mangum and her live-in boyfriend fighting. They said she set fire to some of his clothing in a bathtub in their presence. The building suffered heavy smoke damage. They arrested Mangum on charges of attempted murder, first-degree arson, assault and battery, identity theft, communicating threats, damage to property, resisting an officer, and misdemeanor child abuse.[5]

Mangum was ordered to remain in jail on $1 million bond. Her bond was lowered to $100,000 in May, and she was released from jail to live in a friend’s house. She was required to wear an electronic monitoring device. On July 12, 2010, she was released from house arrest and required to move in with her mother. She was allowed to visit her three children but only under supervision of social services. Mangum was arrested again on August 25, 2010, and held on $150,000 bond for failure to comply with the restrictions on her child visitation order.[6]

On December 17, 2010, Mangum was convicted of five misdemeanor charges involving child abuse. She was also convicted of injury to personal property and resisting a public officer. The jury deadlocked 9-3 for conviction on the felony arson charge but was unable to reach a decision on it.[7] After the verdict, Judge Abe Jones sentenced Mangum to 88 days in jail, which she had already served, and granted custody of her children.[8] Durham Assistant District Attorney Mark McCullough announced on January 21, 2011, that he would not retry Mangum on arson charges.[9]

Mangum was arrested on April 2, 2011, following accusations that she stabbed and seriously injured her boyfriend. She was charged with assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill inflicting serious bodily injury, a class C felony in North Carolina.[10][11] Her boyfriend later died in the hospital, and Mangum was indicted on a murder charge.[12] As of April 19, Mangum was being held in jail under a $300,000 secured bail bond, which was set prior to her boyfriend’s death.[13][14] In November, Mangum was deemed competent to stand trial for murder.[15]


8 posted on 04/17/2012 7:30:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: SumProVita

That’s too funny.


9 posted on 04/17/2012 7:32:01 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Age actually has nothing to do with this. It’s all about behavior.

Uncontrollable destructive or dangerous behavior = handcuffs


10 posted on 04/17/2012 7:32:58 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: iowamark

Surprising, isn’t it? Her arms look pretty small.


11 posted on 04/17/2012 7:33:26 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

BREAKING NEWS: POTHOLE IN FRONT OF HOUSE MAKES ROAD BUMPY


12 posted on 04/17/2012 7:34:21 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: upchuck

Yes because tight handcuffs and a holding cell were something really needed for a human being on the planet for only 6 years.

I did the exact same things this article describes she did when I was her age, and funny how I was never cuffed and imprisoned for it.

I am white though. So, you know, I probably could have punched the teacher in the face and nothing would have happened to me.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 7:35:39 AM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Upstate NY Guy

What, they didn’t taze her?

Gettin’ soft in Georgia!


14 posted on 04/17/2012 7:36:02 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Leaning Right

I kind of doubt highly you’d think it was okay if you’re 6 year old was arrested and punt into a holding cell.


15 posted on 04/17/2012 7:36:52 AM PDT by hitchwolf
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This is breaking news?


16 posted on 04/17/2012 7:36:52 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Red Badger

What does this have to do with a 6 year old being arrested in Georgia?


17 posted on 04/17/2012 7:38:05 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy

I think being handcuffed and hauled away was a bit extreme. However, I taught second grade in Atlanta for a few years about a decade ago. I was pregnant with my first child and one of my students kicked me in the stomach. The kid had issues. I sent him to the principal’s office and he was back in my room five minutes later. I hated that year and still have nightmares from that kid. I had zero control over him as a teacher. I would have loved to have that child taken away just not to a cell. Some kids need more help than a public school can adequately provide.

I homeschool my kids because I know what goes on in those schools. I’ll never send my kids into that mad house.


18 posted on 04/17/2012 7:38:40 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

OMG. This really is racism. Here is how you handle a wee bairn in tantrum: Put them someplace where they can’t break anything or hurt themselves, such as a corner, and totally ignore them until they calm down. But noooooo. This was a little black girl, so they had to arrest her. Or am I misjudging? Were the cops merely inbred, bucktoothed cretins? Or is saying that racial profiling, too? This is appalling, whoever the racist is.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 7:38:40 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

I read all the comments and cannot believe that not one person thought it was idiotic for the school to call the cops. Don’t we have police in the first place to enforce the laws? What law was broken by an unruly child?

It’s not just this latest incident; the first resort all over the country seems to be to call the police when a child misbehaves in school. The school ought to be able to handle discipline without becoming physical. I wouldn’t have a problem with physical discipline myself but we all know that’s been taken out of the hands of school administrators.

People posting were complaining about parents not doing their job -how about the school taking the easy way out? Not allowed to handle it any other way? Work to change it. How about parents giving written permission to the schools to discipline their child/children as the case merits?

For goodness sake - STOP CALLING THE COPS on children. It’s a no brainer IMO..


20 posted on 04/17/2012 7:40:08 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Upstate NY Guy

This is great. Only a couple of steps from sparking rebellion. If there’s one thing you shouldn’t do in GA, it’s mess with our kids. Flood the chief’s inbox with outrage.


21 posted on 04/17/2012 7:40:45 AM PDT by arderkrag ("WAAHH WAAAHHH SCOTUS" is no excuse to vote for Romney. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Maybe they should REQUIRE holding cells in ALL the schools.

It would prepare them for the real cells they will face once they get to adulthood.


22 posted on 04/17/2012 7:41:32 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Red Badger

I’m confused - is this the mother of the kid? Because Crystal is in jail and this article says the aunt went with the mother to the jail.


23 posted on 04/17/2012 7:42:27 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: LucianOfSamasota

LOL!


24 posted on 04/17/2012 7:42:40 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Spanking will cause irreparable harm, both physically and emotionally.

But handcuffs and a holding cell are harmless.

Yep.

25 posted on 04/17/2012 7:43:03 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Upstate NY Guy

The underlying problem is that lately anybody in any position of authority who actually wants to do something is themselves handcuffed by the threat and practice of inevitable civil lawsuits for the slightest instance of touching a child for purposes of restraining him, the restraining itself, subsequent isolation, etc. Thus the solution is to just throw up your hands and call the cops.


26 posted on 04/17/2012 7:43:09 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
What caused the tantrum? Was she forced to eat gov chicken nuggets?

She was in the principal's office when this happened. Why was she there? What was the principal threatening her with?

27 posted on 04/17/2012 7:43:29 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Thank You Rush

“”I read all the comments””

Neglected to say “at the link”


28 posted on 04/17/2012 7:43:50 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Restraining a very aggressive hysterical small child takes practical technique to prevent him from hurting you, himself, or others. The way I handled this --- when I was dealing with a 5-year-old with Reactive Attachment Disorder--- was to hold him in a "basket hold", as described by Martha Welch in her book "Holding Time".

You sit down in a sturdy chair or sofa (something stable that won't tip over), grab the kid between your knees facing outwards, cross his arms in front of him and wrap tightly with your arms. The idea is to immobilize his legs, arms, and hands, in a position where he can neither flail or bite. You have to hold your own head off to one side as far as possible to prevent the kid from bucking backwards and smashing the back of his head against your chin and teeth.

Then you just hold him tight and let him struggle until he's exhausted. Sometime at that point his energy is totally spent and he's ready to sleep. Then you can turn him around, get him to a rocking chair, hold him and rock him.

It takes some skill and practice, but it worked well for me once I got the hang of it. Nobody gets injured or brutalized, and after the kid is past his crisis he calms down and feels peaceful and protected.

You've got to realize that th kid is terrified by his own hysteria. He needs to feel you're in control, and you're protecting him. After a few rounds of this --- in my expoerience anyhow --- the tantrums go away, and the kid trusts you.

29 posted on 04/17/2012 7:45:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Jessie and Al enroute?


30 posted on 04/17/2012 7:45:28 AM PDT by Jumpmaster (Defund the Left!)
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To: hitchwolf
I kind of doubt highly you’d think it was okay if you’re 6 year old was arrested...

Well, if my 6 year old was tearing things off walls and attempting to hurt other people, yes I would want my child restrained.

According to the article, the police officer attempted to reason with the child. If the child continued to be wildly destructive and throw things, what else could the cop do? Put her into a bear hug? Is that so much more humane than cuffs?

Oh, and one more thing. If it were my child, I would not be angry at the cop. I would be embarrassed at my failure as a parent.

31 posted on 04/17/2012 7:46:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Back in the day, kids in my public elementary school were picked up by the hair if they got too crazy. That was stopped, but it was a lot more effective with fewer long term consequences than handcuffs and a holding cell. (Even as late as eigth grade, noogies were given out at the private school I was attending.)


32 posted on 04/17/2012 7:46:55 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy
Hmmmmmm.

I'm thinking that there's more to it than what's here.

When an adult can't restrain a 6 year old, there's an issue, either with the adult, or with the 6 year old. I'm wondering if she was handcuffed to avoid hurting herself.

And the bit about her complaining that "They were tight", well, that's what handcuffs do.

33 posted on 04/17/2012 7:47:34 AM PDT by wbill
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To: hitchwolf
I did the exact same things this article describes she did when I was her age, and funny how I was never cuffed and imprisoned for it.

Of course. I think we all did. I am sure the actions of this kid occur every day in thousands of elementary schools all across the country.

It seems like the absurdity of the handcuffs and a jail cell are being lost to some.

34 posted on 04/17/2012 7:48:50 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: Leaning Right
If it were my child, I would not be angry at the cop. I would be embarrassed at my failure as a parent.

Bingo.

35 posted on 04/17/2012 7:50:23 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Upstate NY Guy

As a principal of a christian school, I once had a kindergarten student stab another student in the head with a pencil. She missed the boy’s eye by about 2 inches. I never really believed much about demon possession until this student came along. If you were to say the word “Christ” near her, she would hiss like a cat.


36 posted on 04/17/2012 7:50:33 AM PDT by rightsmart
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To: Thank You Rush

I think it’s ridiculous. These cops are just bullies with fancy titles. Of course, that’s true of any authority exercising powers the people haven’t personally assented to.


37 posted on 04/17/2012 7:51:13 AM PDT by arderkrag ("WAAHH WAAAHHH SCOTUS" is no excuse to vote for Romney. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: wbill

Obviously the adults could have restrained her without handcuffs. That would have involved holding her physically for an extended period. Parents would then claim sexual assault.


38 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:57 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: LucianOfSamasota

What, they didn’t taze her?

Gettin’ soft in Georgia!


The day’s not over yet!


39 posted on 04/17/2012 7:53:08 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: SumProVita

I’ll bet Selecia’s father would be highly agitated if he knew he was the sperm donor.

There’s no doubt that Selecia is a terror. She’s probably angry about a lot of things, especially what goes on in the place she calls home. Unfortunately, these disturbed, fatherless kids get dumped on the school and the teacher has to cope with teaching a class while a six-year-old is going nuts.

Instead of race pimping those two weasels Jackson and Sharp-as-a-tack-ton need to convince these millions of fathers to marry the mother of their children. The only problem here is that the mothers would end up with 5 or six husbands, the complete reverse of old Mormonism.


40 posted on 04/17/2012 7:53:16 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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To: unixfox

Should a big bald guy named Bubba be in the cell to make them his b@#$? Or, if there are more than one kid in the holding cell, do they get to choose a Bubba and he picks the kid he wants to bend over? This is getting weird.


41 posted on 04/17/2012 7:54:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

Obviously this shows what happens to children that are not handcuffed at the age of 6.


42 posted on 04/17/2012 7:56:05 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: samiam1972

I dunno what is going on... back in my day if a kid hit a teacher, they were permanently expelled...


43 posted on 04/17/2012 7:56:22 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: IbJensen

It works in the Himalayas. But how would Jesse Jackson marry the mothers of his own love kids? Would he convert to Mormonism and secretly make them honest women in illegal bigamous marriage ceremonies?


44 posted on 04/17/2012 7:57:01 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Kevin in California

I think it was breaking news about a year ago.


45 posted on 04/17/2012 7:57:41 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Upstate NY Guy

“She said they were really tight. She said they really hurt her wrists,”

That seems unlikely.


46 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:24 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Thank You Rush
What law was broken by an unruly child?

From the Article:

Salecia Johnson, 6, was accused of tearing items off the walls and throwing furniture in an outburst Friday at Creekside Elementary School, Macon television station WMAZ-TV (http://on.wmaz.com/HPb7nr ) reported.

Police said the girl knocked over a shelf that injured the principal.

The police report says when an officer tried to calm the child in the principal's office, she resisted and was handcuffed. The girl was charged with simple assault and damage to property.

Or, do you believe such behavior should be excused simply on the basis of age?

47 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:27 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Thank You Rush
“What law was broken by an unruly child?

From the article, she was charged with destruction of public property and assault (on the principal). I agree completely that we have criminalized behavior by children (including teenagers) that a couple of generations ago would have been handled privately by teachers, parents or neighbors. The problem is that teachers are forbidden to use physical means to enforce discipline, many parents are AWOL, and neighbors don't get involved for fear of criminal charges or civil lawsuits. What would you have done if faced with this situation?

“The school ought to be able to handle discipline without becoming physical. I wouldn’t have a problem with physical discipline myself but we all know that’s been taken out of the hands of school administrators.”

According to my father-in-law, who designs schools for most of the metro Atlanta school boards, the padded “quiet rooms” where unruly children were once placed have been phased out. So, the teachers can't discipline them and the administrators can't separate them from the other students until they calm down. Again, what would you have done?

48 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:38 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: hitchwolf

Not in the school I went to. If you had behaved that way, you may not have been handcuffed, but you would have been forcibly restrained and had some serious punishment.

Hitting a teacher in the face? Doesn’t matter to me what color you are, you’re gone from any school trying to educate decent kids.

The behavior described is evidence of incompetent parents and a child out of control - calling the police is probably a more appropriate response in this day and age than how my principal would have responded back in the day.

The police and the cuffs were not prompted by her color, but by her actions, and her actions have no color.


49 posted on 04/17/2012 8:00:04 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Eleutheria5

Jesse walks around in a cloud. He probably thinks he was the only one that scored.


50 posted on 04/17/2012 8:00:14 AM PDT by IbJensen (We now have a government requiring citizens prove they are insured but not that they are citizens.)
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