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House blocks EPA from banning lead in ammunition
Human Events ^ | 04/17/2012 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 04/17/2012 6:50:44 PM PDT by neverdem

The House on Tuesday passed legislation giving hunters and fishing enthusiasts access to certain public lands to pursue their sport and also blocked the Environmental Protection Agency from banning lead for use in ammunition and fishing tackle.

The Sportsmen’s Heritage Act passed on a mostly party line vote of 274 yeas and 146 nays.

Republicans argued that the ability of sportsmen and women to fish and shoot on public lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Forest Service is being threatened by the Obama administration and environmentalists through bureaucratic regulations.

Republicans also said that banning lead bullets and tackle would cause economic harm to the recreation industry and kill jobs.

“It would be a massive power grab by the EPA without a clear lack of legal authority, but has that ever stopped the EPA under this administration? Sadly, it hasn’t,” said Rep. Doc Hastings (R–Wash.) chairman of the House Resources Committee.

The bill recognizes hunting and fishing as historic and traditional recreational activities on public land and requires the federal bureaucracy to support those rights, said Rep. Rob Bishop (R–Utah), chairman of the Resources subcommittee on national parks, forests and public lands.

“It’s simple language: if agencies in the bureaucracy of Washington want some areas of land closed to the public for recreation, they have to have a darned good reason to do it,” Bishop said.

Hastings and Bishop cited an article in U.S. News and World Report stating the proposal to ban hunting on BLM land was in response to urbanites that “freak out” when they hear gunfire, and that the decision was an effort to reduce “social conflict.”

“I suggest that is not a logical reason why these rights should be prohibited,” Bishop said.

Federal managers are treating the public lands as their “personal fiefdoms” rather than managing the vast properties for public use, Hastings said.

The public outcry following the BLM threat forced Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to abandon the plan. “However, nothing prevents a future bureaucratic maneuver to limit access,” Hastings said.

Democrats opposed the bill and called it a tool of the gun lobby.

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D–Ariz.) argued that the greatest threats to hunting and fishing do not come from federal land managers, but from development, pollution and destruction of wildlife habitat.

“The problem this bill claims to solve actually does not exist,” Grijalva said. “This bill is intended to wrap (land managers) in red tape and intimidate them… and to score political points with outside groups.”

Federal law already bans the EPA from regulating lead ammunition, however, more than 100 environmental groups petitioned the agency last month to ban it claiming the lead can poison those who eat wild game shot with the ammunition, or other animals that accidentally ingest the metal in dead carcasses.

“There is no scientific evidence for their position,” Hastings said. “So this (bill) makes it crystal clear Congress has primacy on this issue and it should be respected.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; blm; bureaucrats; dochastings; epa; forestservice; gungrabbers; lead; unelected

1 posted on 04/17/2012 6:50:55 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If the House can stop the EPA, why don’t they do it more?


2 posted on 04/17/2012 6:55:15 PM PDT by Principled
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To: neverdem

Hell yeah! Resist tyranny everywhere it presents itself.


3 posted on 04/17/2012 6:56:10 PM PDT by Brownie63
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To: neverdem

Great news. Glad they passed it, but.....

““So this (bill) makes it crystal clear Congress has primacy on this issue and it should be respected.””

Congress primacy is every bit as important an issue as we the people face off against this Leftist anti Congress, Ex-Order Administration.


4 posted on 04/17/2012 6:59:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: neverdem
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 164 Sportsmen’s Heritage Act of 2012

Johnson (IL) and Dold need to be primaried.

5 posted on 04/17/2012 7:01:36 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
"Federal law already bans the EPA from regulating lead ammunition, however, more than 100 environmental groups [government-dependent, animal worshiping NIMBYs] petitioned the agency last month to ban it..."

Western NIMBYs (mostly migrants from heavily populated coastal areas) show every year that they believe themselves to be the sole arbiters of nature and above the law. They'll be swept back to their stinking cities during the next few years with the bond collapse, defaults and foreclosures. Good riddance.


6 posted on 04/17/2012 7:05:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


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8 posted on 04/17/2012 7:11:37 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Principled
EXACTLY! Plan and simply stated, why aren't they going after ALL of the over reaching that everyone of these bureaucratic monstrosities (i.e., EPA, Dept of Education, Dept of Energy, NLRB, GSA, etc...) have wrought upon the American citizens?!?

Signs of life, like this, from the GOP in Congress are what makes me hope and continue to pray that we are not too late in awakening from this nightmare!
9 posted on 04/17/2012 7:16:13 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: neverdem

They didn’t block the EPA from doing anything. This will probably not see the light of day in the Senate nor will Obama sign it.

Stupid headline.


10 posted on 04/17/2012 7:18:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: neverdem

Next up: Costly lead abatement from soil required at all outdoor ranges.


11 posted on 04/17/2012 7:36:32 PM PDT by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

Lead does not leach out in a normal environment.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 7:37:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

Thank the Lord! Now about comment 2, I agree, where ate the stones on the test of the EPA BS!?


13 posted on 04/17/2012 7:55:40 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: GeronL

You fail to realize that the house has the power to stop whatever they choose to, by simply refusing the funds to do it.

Its all a question of determination.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: GeronL
They didn’t block the EPA from doing anything. This will probably not see the light of day in the Senate nor will Obama sign it.

They got the Coburn Amendment passed. Concealed carry in national parks is a reality. A lot of rat senators up this year will want to sign it.

15 posted on 04/17/2012 8:07:55 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ExTxMarine

Because it’s just election year pandering and posturing. This bill is a safe vote and will go nowhere in the Senate.

It’s dead, Jim.


16 posted on 04/17/2012 8:12:14 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Principled
"If the House can stop the EPA, why don’t they do it more?"

The House could 'zero' their funding. Why don't they do it?

17 posted on 04/17/2012 8:19:09 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: mylife

“Lead does not leach out in a normal environment.”

Don’t you know that science, regardless of the facts, does not matter...an idiot at Tulane is after tungsten because it was used as a replacement for Pb in ammo and sinkers. She doesn’t care about science, only her politics. She protested Newt when he spoke at Tulane. She doesn’t believe in free speech either.


18 posted on 04/17/2012 8:30:20 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

What I know is that the EPA has been after us for years and they cant prove any elevated lead levels in water or food.

Shit, we’d all be brain dead if lead leached out in water under like 300°


19 posted on 04/17/2012 8:41:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

This is a very good thing. Now to imprison those sad ____ that okayed Fast and Furious/Gunwalker. Stick them in a Mexican prison; one where family members were murdered by the Sinaola cartels thanks to some of the SOB’s in our leadership like the racsist AG and others.


20 posted on 04/17/2012 9:13:16 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: neverdem
Dold's from one of the most anti-gun districts in the country. That was Mark Kirk's district, as well as John Porter's district. I don't expect much from there.

Interestingly enough, Dingell voted bad on this one.

21 posted on 04/17/2012 9:14:00 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: Darren McCarty
Interestingly enough, Dingell voted bad on this one.

Thanks for the info on Dold. Is Dingell still on the NRA's board?

22 posted on 04/17/2012 10:05:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
"Rep. Raul Grijalva (D–Ariz.) argued that the greatest threats to hunting and fishing do not come from federal land managers, but from development, pollution and destruction of wildlife habitat."

LOL... Yeah... He should know. Most of his constituents are illegal aliens that utterly destroy and pollute the wildlife habitat in the beautiful Sonoran Desert in Southern Arizona. That said his comments have nothing to do with the obomba administrations attempt to use bogus agencies like the BLM and EPA to institute yet another federal bureaucratic power grab. Using ammo poisoning wildlife and hunters allegedly trampling and polluting their hunting grounds as the excuse to attack the 2nd Amendment is beyond hypocritical.

This is an old article but it explains and shows what raul's constituents do to BLM managed property and privately owned ranches along our boarders. You ask me there isn't enough lead being used in this area of the country. Read the article here - The Amnesty Trail

It's gotten even worse since this article came out. Why isn't our government doing what's needed to put an end to these atrocities?
I know. The questions redundant isn't it? >:-(

23 posted on 04/17/2012 10:18:22 PM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: neverdem
But many freepers tell me Republicans are just exactly the same as the evil, marxist enemies of America the democrats. Guess that proves you wrong. Go Republicans in the House.
24 posted on 04/17/2012 10:19:56 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 3 years. China makes everything taking U.S. ability to manufacture)
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To: neverdem
“However, nothing prevents a future bureaucratic maneuver to limit access,” Hastings said.

That's the real problem. The EPA, just one agency among many, needs to be abolished or at least castrated. If you don't do that, they just keep pushing and pushing until they find a Congress that's more amenable to their plans. Then the public is stuck with the agency's power grab forever.

25 posted on 04/18/2012 2:32:55 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: neverdem

One hell of a way to really piss off a bundle of Americans,
some f-ing beauracrat banning ammo and fishing tackle.
Course these are activities obummer has Never done.
Too busy dating men and hiding his past.


26 posted on 04/18/2012 3:34:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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The chemicals in the propellant for all ammunition is the next target for the EPA. Watch.


27 posted on 04/18/2012 3:44:47 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Principled

Because they can’t. Unless the Senate agrees with them (and they won’t), it is just talk.


28 posted on 04/18/2012 5:11:33 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: mylife

“Shit, we’d all be brain dead if lead leached out in water under like 300°”

It does, but only in liberal homes. I only know of one case in the literature of lead poisoning from a bullet in the body. It was lodged in a joint and the acidic joint fluid caused the bullet to dissolve. All others just sit there and the same for outdoors.


29 posted on 04/18/2012 6:16:31 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

He’s not on there, but gets A+ ratings.


30 posted on 04/18/2012 6:19:02 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: familyop

some, not all. sweeping generalizations are rarely accurate.


31 posted on 04/18/2012 7:28:02 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: neverdem

“...Democrats opposed the bill ...”

Communists never have cared for lead in ammunition, especially in the hands of the unwashed masses...lol


32 posted on 04/18/2012 10:29:00 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Principled
If the House can stop the EPA, why don’t they do it more?

They can't, this is just Blabbidy, blah, blah, for the little people, the Senate will never let it happen. How has spending been increased to unconscionable levels under the leadership of Boehner and McConnel? The GOPe is dominated by enemies of the Republic.

33 posted on 04/18/2012 11:41:44 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: KoRn
The House could 'zero' their funding. Why don't they do it?

National Endowment of the Arts, A group hated by conservatives, yet they still get funded. Remember that Ronald Reagan ran on abolishing the Department of Education, but phony Republicans stopped him.

We have apparently not yet learned the danger of voting for the man with the (R).

34 posted on 04/18/2012 11:48:40 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: itsahoot

If Romney wins they’ll likely be able...actually forced to do much more. If Lugar loses, the limp wristers will be even more frightened of not doing the right thing. Their hand will be forced because of the looming defense cuts. I’m not yet cynical enough to believe the GOP will defund Marine Brigades and quintuple Tricare rates while continuing to fund the NEA and the Peace Corps/Job Corps, Americorps, etc.


35 posted on 04/18/2012 3:11:12 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

That’s weird.


36 posted on 04/18/2012 3:57:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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