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Fracking causes earthquakes, studies confirm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/04/17/environment-fracking-earthquake-studies.html ^

Posted on 04/17/2012 7:45:02 PM PDT by chessplayer

Two separate studies are providing insights into the earth-shaking consequences of the controversial gas extraction process known as fracking.

Both studies confirm that hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, can trigger manmade earthquakes. The process involves blasting water, sand and chemicals deep into the ground to fracture rock to obtain oil and natural gas.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


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So what are the chances of the skyrocketing seismic activity triggering an eruption of the super volcano in Yellowstone. December 2012 anyone?
1 posted on 04/17/2012 7:45:05 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

If there’s stress there will eventually be quake. Better to relieve the stress before it becomes catastrophic.

The frackers ought to charge for the service.


2 posted on 04/17/2012 7:46:59 PM PDT by DManA
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To: chessplayer

The PhD geologist/ Caltech in this home does not buy this theory. Who did the research, etc? I bet it is the Global Warming, Ozone Hole folks who just want to stop frakking.


3 posted on 04/17/2012 7:49:05 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: chessplayer

BS!


4 posted on 04/17/2012 7:49:08 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: chessplayer

Oh boy, here comes the next “exchange” on which credits will be traded to enrich the global Marxists.

Next they will be blaming the increased solar activity on the private sector.


5 posted on 04/17/2012 7:49:59 PM PDT by publius321
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To: chessplayer

They are out of their fracking minds. They just want to end America as a major economic force.

The left are made up of traitors.


6 posted on 04/17/2012 7:50:24 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: chessplayer

Trucks passing on the roads cause bigger “earthquakes”.


7 posted on 04/17/2012 7:51:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: chessplayer

The science is settled. There is now consensus. We must now report to the nearest processing center for re-settlement and re-education in the new hunter-gatherer economy.


8 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:14 PM PDT by ThirdMate
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To: chessplayer

I would place the scientific veracity of this claim right on a par with the theory that farting causes Lunar Eclipses!


9 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:49 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: chessplayer
so replacing gas with water causes quakes, but drilling for oil leaving giant empty caverns does not??? please...
10 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: chessplayer

As usual the media has it backwards. The study will say its not the process of hydraulic fracturing, but disposal of frac waste water in deep disposal wells that can cause low level earthquakes.


11 posted on 04/17/2012 7:54:20 PM PDT by CedarDave (Romney: Dresses and looks like a '50's character from "Mad Men" but no one's buying his shtick.)
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To: chessplayer

I wouldn’t think it was completely out of the question. Yet,, every single fracking quake is exremely minor. The places that have had unusual quakes got a few seconds of trivial excitement, a story in the local paper,,and no damage or injuries. These arent exactly pacific rim quakes.

They are totally worth it too in light of all the gas and wealth being created. A wonderful tradeoff.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 7:54:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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To: chessplayer

That is SUCH bullshit! You just can’t make it up!

What’s funny is most of the totally dumbass people out there will hear it and believe it. They “heard it on the news” after all.....


13 posted on 04/17/2012 7:54:44 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: publius321

Please refer to my reply #9.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 7:56:11 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: chessplayer

“Studies create zombies, I confirmed”


15 posted on 04/17/2012 7:56:19 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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To: DManA
Amen!

We should be drilling and pumping all the volatile chems out of our planet ASAP!

16 posted on 04/17/2012 7:56:27 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: chessplayer

What’s also funny is how they refer to ‘fracking’ as “controversial”.

Anyone ever notice how nothing is ever “controversial” unless it pisses off a liberal?


17 posted on 04/17/2012 7:56:38 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: FreeAtlanta
They are out of their fracking minds. They just want to end America as a major economic force. The left are made up of traitors.

A quote from the article that blames the earthquakes on the entire oil and gas industry:

The U.S. Geological Survey is set to release its findings Wednesday that a "remarkable" increase of quakes in the U.S. midcontinent since 2001 is "almost certainly" the result of oil and gas production.

18 posted on 04/17/2012 7:58:39 PM PDT by CedarDave (Romney: Dresses and looks like a '50's character from "Mad Men" but no one's buying his shtick.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Go suck a lily pad.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 7:59:29 PM PDT by DManA
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To: rawcatslyentist

Wow. Looks like I have the dubious honor of being the last person accosted by this person:

This account has been banned.


20 posted on 04/17/2012 8:02:36 PM PDT by DManA
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To: thackney

Ping.


21 posted on 04/17/2012 8:04:08 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: chessplayer

What’s the depth of fracking vs the depth of the observed earthquakes?


22 posted on 04/17/2012 8:04:59 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Tucker39
It is only slightly less believable than Phrenology.
23 posted on 04/17/2012 8:05:49 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: KoRn

Around here the “Waterkeepers” are trying to tell people that pumping water 2500 feet into the ground will cause the water to flash over to steam and cause massive explosions.

The only problem is that temperatures at that depth here in southern Michigan are only some 70 or 80 degrees if that.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 8:05:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bboop

I am with you. This is bs.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 8:06:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bboop

“the Global Warming, Ozone Hole folks”

“the Global Warming, Ozone Hole, lead-ban, fracking-ban folks”

If it’s fun or makes sense fuggedaboutit .... these people live in fear that somewhere, someone might be enjoying him/herself putting the pedal to the metal behind a V-8, or shooting at bulls-eyes, ducks or pulling big-mouth/bronzeback/whiskered `river kittens’ out of the water.


26 posted on 04/17/2012 8:09:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: chessplayer

Uhhh, huh,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_method


27 posted on 04/17/2012 8:11:58 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: tumblindice

PJ O’Rourke has a name for that type of person: Funsucker.
Funsuckers are the malicious, diseased people who live in a state of both fear and envy regarding people enjoying life and living well. Funsuckers activley seek to piddle in the corn flakes of others.


28 posted on 04/17/2012 8:12:52 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: FreeAtlanta

They are out of their fracking minds. They just want to end America as a major economic force.

The left are made up of traitors.


Ok, I know most in here wouldn’t believe a scientist if they said the sun rises in the east, but who do we consider a “real” scientist? One with a crewcut?


29 posted on 04/17/2012 8:16:10 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Fracking causes earthquakes is about as hilarious as this.
30 posted on 04/17/2012 8:17:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: chessplayer

Average oil well depth is under 8000 ft.

Source EIA U.S. Energy Information Administration

http://205.254.135.7/dnav/pet/pet_crd_welldep_s1_a.htm

Source USGS

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/world_density.php

Depth
The depth where the earthquake begins to rupture. This depth may be relative to mean sea-level or the average elevation of the seismic stations which provided arrival-time data for the earthquake location. The choice of reference depth is dependent on the method used to locate the earthquake. Sometimes when depth is poorly constrained by available seismic data, the location program will set the depth at a fixed value. For example, 33 km is often used as a default depth for earthquakes determined to be shallow, but whose depth is not satisfactorily determined by the data, whereas default depths of 5 or 10 km are often used in mid-continental areas and on mid-ocean ridges since earthquakes in these areas are usually shallower than 33 km.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php

1 mile = 5280 feet

8000 ft = 1.5151 miles

shallow earthquake < 37km 22.99 miles 5 km = 3.11 miles

Mid depth earthquake Depth 70 - 300 km
Deep depth earthquake Depth Depth 300 km and greater


31 posted on 04/17/2012 8:25:11 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into!")
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To: chessplayer

I want everyoen to be aware and be prepared for the dear leader to begin enacting laws to prevent frackign/drilling etc based o nthe notion that big oil are ‘eco-terrorists’- infact, be prepared to be labelled an eco-terrorist if you support drilling and energy independence-

I would liek to know though how they linked ANY earthquakes with ANY specific deposit of salt water deep below the surface- what exactly is the direct link proving the water caused ANY particular tremor? While we’re on the issue- I’d like expers to prove that particuulates from someone’s cigarette in a parking lot, or outdoor venue caused cancer in someone- to show the exact direct link/evidence proving said cigarette’s particular particulates caused aq person’s cancer- but since when did experts have to actually prove anything? All experts have ot do is say ‘We have shown that it does’ and that’s apaprently enougfh for lawmakers- they don’;t even have to show HOW they supposedly ‘proved’ it- thgey just have to SAY it


32 posted on 04/17/2012 8:25:31 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: DManA
I don't know why, but I bring out the bad side of a lot of people.

LOL , I aint gonna let it get me down.

33 posted on 04/17/2012 8:25:41 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: CedarDave

[[a “remarkable” increase of quakes in the U.S. midcontinent since 2001 is “almost certainly” the result of oil and gas production.]]

That’s wierd because charts from the government’s own geological website showed no real increase in quakes- and the end of that sentance saysd ‘almost certainly due to oil production’ Again- Where is hte evidence for this? Where is the direct correlation- Where is the direct evidence PROVING an increase MUST be from oil production?


34 posted on 04/17/2012 8:28:58 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Weird. Click on your name. Says “This account has been banned.”


35 posted on 04/17/2012 8:29:14 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DBrow

Does fracking make the earth move?


36 posted on 04/17/2012 8:33:44 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: chessplayer

Confused? Fracking explained.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2p_Q8m0H-E


37 posted on 04/17/2012 8:35:07 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (“He’s got an enemies list that would make Richard Nixon proud.”)
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To: DManA
I was actually agreeing with your post about fracking being a good service.

Why you consider that an acostation? I don't know.

Peace.

38 posted on 04/17/2012 8:37:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: chessplayer

If we could drill that deep we wouldn’t need oil (FOR FUEL) ... just water for steam. Even on top of a Volcano (like Yellowstone)

TT


39 posted on 04/17/2012 8:38:25 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: chessplayer

We have earthquakes on an hourly basis somewhere on the Island of Hawaii and there’s no fracking here....just your normal lava flow going on 29 years now.


40 posted on 04/17/2012 8:40:03 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: chessplayer

Note that they said “can” cause man made earthquakes... But It did not say that it does. More supposition and possibility reported as fact.


41 posted on 04/17/2012 8:46:48 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Note that they said “can” cause man made earthquakes... But It did not say that it does. More supposition and possibility reported as fact.


42 posted on 04/17/2012 8:46:48 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: chessplayer

They will have to prove it to me. Let them try and cause a earthquake.They are natural and we would not be living without earthquakes.All the land would be covered with water.


43 posted on 04/17/2012 8:49:03 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: taterjay

Yes. Fracking lifts the overburden, ie: the earth above, to cause longitudinal cracks in the strata being fracked.
The pressures being used are great. A standing column of pure water 8000 ft high has a pressure of 3464psi. When you add the weight of different items to the fracking fluid being used plus the added pressure from the pumps you can understand the resulting pressure on the strata being fracked. The strata ruptures. The rupture increases the area for the inward flow of oil, gas or whatever. Q=AV
The actual formula contains more variables but that is the basic equation.


44 posted on 04/17/2012 8:54:35 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012!)
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To: Big Horn

That is truly uplifting! Long live Benioff zones. The Tectonically challenged can go frack themselves.


45 posted on 04/17/2012 9:02:17 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (“He’s got an enemies list that would make Richard Nixon proud.”)
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To: CedarDave

How about Carbon ‘sequestration’??? Pull Carbon out of the ground for fuel/energy and then pump the same back into the ground? idiots. libtards. Sociallists.


46 posted on 04/17/2012 9:34:47 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Chode

You forgot to mention all those coal mines, gold mines, missile silos, river dams, wind mills, Maginot Line, Buried Chinese Clay Soldiers, World Trade Center Memorial, Subways in New York, Paris, London,Washington, Moscow and last, but not least, Jimmy Hoffa’s grave.


47 posted on 04/18/2012 4:18:19 AM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: BilLies
yup, my bad...
48 posted on 04/18/2012 4:52:33 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

“The sky is fallling, the sky is falling”........we are all doomed. My God when will it stop? I would be willing to
say a challenge to that study will soon be forth coming.


49 posted on 04/18/2012 7:17:12 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: chessplayer

Total BS. The volume used in fracking is minimal and it is nowhere near the depth required to set off an earthquake.

Just another variation of Global Warming.


50 posted on 04/18/2012 7:25:11 AM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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