That's what was thought when they designed the F4 Phantom without a gun. Then Democrat Rules of Engagement forced pilots to visually identify targets first, which meant that you had to be within dogfighting range.
>>That’s what was thought when they designed the F4 Phantom without a gun.<<
Outside of the movie Top Gun (20+ years ago?) has there been a real hot guns dogfight officially recorded between ANY milcraft? Even the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan were BVR (from what I understand).
Rumors leaked out a few years back about an F15 defeating an F22 (or the converse, depending on who was telling the story) in mock dogfight combat, but I don’t think we have seen bullet holes in an American milcraft from another aircraft in a LONG time.
But I would NEVER ask a pilot to be in an aircraft without a gun. Too many SEAD missions need it and it is just wrong for many reasons.