Posted on 04/18/2012 1:44:48 AM PDT by carriage_hill
Scientists may hesitate to link some of the weather extremes of recent years to global warming but the public, it seems, is already there.
A poll due for release on Wednesday shows that a large majority of Americans believe that this years unusually warm winter, last years blistering summer and some other weather disasters were probably made worse by global warming. And by a 2-to-1 margin, the public says the weather has been getting worse, rather than better, in recent years.
The survey, the most detailed to date on the public response to weather extremes, comes atop other polling showing a recent uptick in concern about climate change. Read together, the polls suggest that direct experience of erratic weather may be convincing some people that the problem is no longer just a vague and distant threat.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
The left does science by public opinion polls; and they call us uneducated.
I guess the thousands frozen and dead in Europe:
http://www.travelpulse.com/at-least-300-dead-as-bitter-winter-plagues-europe.html
and also in the Ukraine:
would agree that global warming is a real serious problem, Algore.
Could the Amish be behind the AGW hoax? /sar
Science by survey.
Either public opinion polls or rigged, phony “science” studies to “prove” their bogus POVs, 99% of which are refutable by real, documented science.
What really bugs me about it is that even though it would be a very BAD thing to have this “climate change”, “global warming”, “AGW”, etc. be facts of life on earth, virtually all of the people who believe it is do hope very much that it’s true just because they don’t like being proven wrong. In other words, they don’t mean well. They’re misanthropes who probably wish that “the planet” could be rid of human beings altogether.
I’m not surprised. The majority of any public is easily swayed by ecstatic, emotional idolatry. The modern obsession with global warming is little different, functionally, from the pagan inhabitants of Easter Island erecting giant statutes in order to control the weather.
You see, human beings like to feel important. We like to feel as if our every action, our every thought, our slightest whim or fancy, can shape mountains out of the mist and bring great monoliths crashing down. Any fantasy that speaks to the unintentional omnipotence of the human condition is a heady drug, a near siren’s call to today’s narcissistic and self-absorbed human being.
This is how shamans and cult-priests controlled civilizations historically - a gullible peasant population was easily swayed by the false rituals and the magician’s tricks of false prophets and idolaters. Bow down before the Golden Calf, peasant, lest ye be smote.
The modern liberal is little different than the medieval peasant he or she heaps self-righteous scorn upon. They both partake of talismanic logic - trusting unerringly and wholeheartedly to their symbols of faith, never bothering to look for any truth or any divine light behind the robes of the anointed priesthood and never understanding the rituals or symbols prominently displayed by their idols. Only, today their idol is “science” - though they spout heresies like ‘the science is settled’, and you’d be a lucky man indeed if you could find a global warming cultist that could define off the top of his or her head what scientific method actually entails.
I sincerely doubt that many of those global warming supporters have actually read the International Panel on Climate Change reports, and of the handful that may have I doubt you’d find more than a couple that actually understood the methodology or verbiage used in the reports. The first IPCC report predicted a significant rise in temperature in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, where CO2 concentrates and where it is likely to perform any minuscule role it has as a greenhouse gas. However, unfortunately for the cultists, in the predicted time period there was no observed temperature increases in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, where one would expect, yet a temperature increase of twice the predicted rate at surface level - where CO2 would have little if any effect.
Faulty predictions aside, and a willful ignorance of solar output notwithstanding, the most recent IPCC report manages to skirt faulty science and predictive models incapable of prediction with a bit off good old-fashioned prestidigitation: merely find some factor that you KNOW will increase by a set amount over a given time, and then claim that your miraculous new scientific snake oil predicts that the factor will increase by said amount.
In this case, the researchers took established sea-level trends that describe what we’d expect the sea-level to do over the next century based off of existing trends that are almost entirely independent of human industrial activity, lowball said estimates, and then claim that a perfectly normal sea-level rise as predicted by centuries of existing trend must somehow, magically, be the result of man-made climate change. ABRACADABRA! If you can’t create a mathematical model that predicts reality and confirms your theory, just make up a few numbers and hope that no one notices!
So, can I get my multi-million dollar climate research grant now?
“A mjority of Americans” meaning those who read the New York Times and watches MSNBC. So, my scientific analysis? Their audience is comprised of gullible dupes by a 2-to-1 margin...at the very least.

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
“...sharing a bar of soap...”
Soap-on-a-rope-for-dopes.
At this point of all the money and supposed credibility they’ve spent, they’re all far too *invested* in it to retract or retreat in the face of factual, scientific information, to the contrary. Their twisted, sick utopian-gaia agenda takes precedence over fact, every time.
Well said, and pick-up your grant check at the last office door on the right, and the end of the hall.
Even their “scientific” research is not scientific.
That amounts to millions of “uneducated skulls of mush” (Rush), and shows us all what we’re still up against, as more and more kids are indoctrinated by the criminal, corrupt left, in the failing-to-do-their-real-job, public schools.
So this polling group gives computers to poor households and then uses these folks, the least likely people to be able to understand the “global warming” nonsense and then cites their responses among the numbers. Additionally, the article doesn’t say how MANY people were polled. Polls are worthless unless you’re talking about a poll representing at least 10% of the population. Otherwise it’s just opinion. This is not science.
Ping to this thread.
This may interest you. I can imagine that when Christ Jesus raptures His Church the remaining population comfort themselves with the continuing delusion that Climate Change is responsible.
When I was in grade school (early 70s), we were taught that glaciers formed the White Mountains of New Hampshire as they descended during an ice age. From that I have always reasoned that climate change is neither unusual nor man made. I have not heard a single person complain about this version of climate change. I only wish I could believe this year’s weather patterns will continue to the end of my life.
“Yes the AMISH are behind it with this evil invention:”
What? A picture of a fire? Who would have thought?
If the winter is hot, it’s global warming. If there’s a blizzard, it’s global warming. If there’s a flood, it’s global warming. If there’s a drought, it’s global warming. If there’s any weather at all, it’s global warming. Everything proves that there’s global warming. All who disagree are in league with the Devil/corporate interests/right wing cabal. Now that science is here, we don’t need faith anymore./sarc
Global warming is a good thing, I’ve been playing softball here in S.E. Michigan since early March and even played a few times in both January and Feb........
I’ve always believed that all polling is strictly opinion, never science. Studies are science, and opinion pollutes them to the point of being worthless. The leftists combine the two and call it “fact”.
I was in grade school in the early 50s, and I’ve noticed a very, very radical climatic weather shift from bitter-cold Dec-Mar snow-covered ground to warm winters and no snow-cover. But I attribute it to cyclical patterns, not AGW. It’s been going on for millions of years, and mankind can’t change squat.
Warm over here; cold over there. Just the way it is. We didn’t do it.
Amazingly there was one small nugget of truth on the radio yesterday where some NOAA guy told Hilary (vapid idiot announcer) Howard of WTOP in DC that global warming does NOT cause more tornadoes.
I kind of miss the widespread snow-cover in winter, in these recent decades, but there’s nothing we can do about it.
The Ad Council is supposed to be nonpartisan and should be investigated and, if necessary, disbanded for being political hacks for the Democrats.
He’s probably on a job search today, as a result of that bit-of-truth slipping thru the cracks. LOL.
Was it this same group of Americans that elected Obama?
The man in the street presents interesting connections; just listen to Rev. Wright, or Hillary Clinton. They demonstrate amazing logic to connect the dots for you.
Can't be emphasized enough. We spend roughly twice as much on heat as on A/C in this country and a lot of the A/C is wasted in inefficient office buildings. The use of A/C is somewhat optional in Virginia where I live, but heat is not for 3 months out of the year and necessary for 2 more months just to be able to function on cold days.
It is worth mentioning that the early warmth in March followed by typical cold frosts has caused some problems for some farmers. But that warmth came from a natural pattern, global warming can only add a degree or two on top of it and the typical temperatures in April show that global warming is not a major factor.
What will they blame it on as the east coast (who oversees all) enters a cool and rainy period thru early May.
When the signs that indicate the tribulation period only begin to become evident (Luke 21:28), we must lift up our heads because our redemption draws near.
So very true, brother. See my post 33.
Yes, part of that same 52% idiot-moron-robot crowd who voted 0bummer&Co into office.
They’re focused on the *now*, and not on the *as compared to*, so they intentionally miss the important data. It’s rigged from start to finish.
Amen to that, ES.
The left has quietly infiltrated and now owns the govt and its agencies, lock-stock-&-barrel. A massive cleansing/flushing-out is going to be needed to rid America of those socialists/commies/Marxists/statists, but they’re so firmly entrenched, it’s scary for our Nation’s future.
Tax dollars at work to enslave the taxpayer...pheh!
The left tells the public lies, and when the public believes the lies, they all say, "Look, Mommy! How science-y we are!!!"
Exactly, HR.
Uh oh, storms coming. Got to go batten down the hatches. BBL...
Since they don’t believe in a higher power, they have to blame someone.
My opinion. The extreme weather started the moment obama stepped foot into the white hut. Get him out of there and all will be well again.
The weather this year is the same as it was two years ago. Nothing has changed. Same pattern. One year we had 7 feet of snow, the next year, 7 feet of water. no biggie. Stuff like this happened in the past also when there were no snowplows or generators. We have it easy in this century.
The last Blizzard we had here was the “President’s Day Blizzard of 2003” (Feb 22?), and it’s been fairly snowless ever since, with the exception of some very cold Jan/Feb months. The past 3 years have been very mild and this year saw 4-5” of snow/ice, little rain and no cold weather. We’re in for a major insect infestation this spring, summer & fall:
| 3. The weather or changes in the weather really do not matter to me. | |
| Strongly agree | 6 |
| Somewhat agree | 15 |
| Neither agree nor disagree | 20 |
When the signs that indicate the tribulation period only begin to become evident (Luke 21:28), we must lift up our heads because our redemption draws near.
Thank you for bringing all those prophecies from the word of God to this thread. The Bible predicted this weather over two thousand years ago! And now the folks who can't even tell us what the weather will be next week want everyone to listen to them! Well the Christians know better!
For those who have not yet read the Bible, or who have not yet believed on the Lord Jesus Christ as Conquerer and King, if you are interested, take the verses mentioned above, such as "Luke 21:28" and paste them into this search engine: Biblegateway.com
tell that to the Europeans...
The only answer to even break the 50% mark: "Extreme High Winds".
But wait, let's go to that breakdown: Nat. Avg. 60% / NE 71% / Midw 70% / South 46% / West 63%
Now, Midw=El Nino's amplified Southern jet stream, but what from 2011 could account for the NE response? Hmmm...
Oh, yeah, a meandering, overdue, overblown, downgraded-to-TS-at-landfall Category 1 hurricane. And what did the Yalie's do during this? Published a Irene drinking game, of course. Probably where they came up with this "poll".
The Left’s work is done.
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