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'One disaster after another': Most tie extreme weather to global warming, poll finds
The New York Times on MSNBC ^ | 4/18/2012 | JUSTIN GILLIS

Posted on 04/18/2012 1:44:48 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

Scientists may hesitate to link some of the weather extremes of recent years to global warming — but the public, it seems, is already there.

A poll due for release on Wednesday shows that a large majority of Americans believe that this year’s unusually warm winter, last year’s blistering summer and some other weather disasters were probably made worse by global warming. And by a 2-to-1 margin, the public says the weather has been getting worse, rather than better, in recent years.

The survey, the most detailed to date on the public response to weather extremes, comes atop other polling showing a recent uptick in concern about climate change. Read together, the polls suggest that direct experience of erratic weather may be convincing some people that the problem is no longer just a vague and distant threat.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Weather
KEYWORDS: agw; climate; weather
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Calling Algore; stop dancing that AGW climate jig and pick-up the getting-warmer red courtesy phone... your gullible, adoring American Public is waiting.
1 posted on 04/18/2012 1:44:55 AM PDT by Carriage Hill
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To: carriage_hill

The left does science by public opinion polls; and they call us uneducated.


2 posted on 04/18/2012 1:50:37 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: carriage_hill

I guess the thousands frozen and dead in Europe:

http://www.travelpulse.com/at-least-300-dead-as-bitter-winter-plagues-europe.html

and also in the Ukraine:

http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/bitter-winter-ukraine-uses-more-gas-gazprom-gas-shortfalls-in-europe/

would agree that global warming is a real serious problem, Algore.


3 posted on 04/18/2012 1:51:47 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: carriage_hill

Could the Amish be behind the AGW hoax? /sar


4 posted on 04/18/2012 1:52:04 AM PDT by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: ALPAPilot

Science by survey.


5 posted on 04/18/2012 1:53:15 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: ALPAPilot

Either public opinion polls or rigged, phony “science” studies to “prove” their bogus POVs, 99% of which are refutable by real, documented science.


6 posted on 04/18/2012 1:54:55 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: carriage_hill

What really bugs me about it is that even though it would be a very BAD thing to have this “climate change”, “global warming”, “AGW”, etc. be facts of life on earth, virtually all of the people who believe it is do hope very much that it’s true just because they don’t like being proven wrong. In other words, they don’t mean well. They’re misanthropes who probably wish that “the planet” could be rid of human beings altogether.


7 posted on 04/18/2012 2:10:06 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: carriage_hill

I’m not surprised. The majority of any public is easily swayed by ecstatic, emotional idolatry. The modern obsession with global warming is little different, functionally, from the pagan inhabitants of Easter Island erecting giant statutes in order to control the weather.

You see, human beings like to feel important. We like to feel as if our every action, our every thought, our slightest whim or fancy, can shape mountains out of the mist and bring great monoliths crashing down. Any fantasy that speaks to the unintentional omnipotence of the human condition is a heady drug, a near siren’s call to today’s narcissistic and self-absorbed human being.

This is how shamans and cult-priests controlled civilizations historically - a gullible peasant population was easily swayed by the false rituals and the magician’s tricks of false prophets and idolaters. Bow down before the Golden Calf, peasant, lest ye be smote.

The modern liberal is little different than the medieval peasant he or she heaps self-righteous scorn upon. They both partake of talismanic logic - trusting unerringly and wholeheartedly to their symbols of faith, never bothering to look for any truth or any divine light behind the robes of the anointed priesthood and never understanding the rituals or symbols prominently displayed by their idols. Only, today their idol is “science” - though they spout heresies like ‘the science is settled’, and you’d be a lucky man indeed if you could find a global warming cultist that could define off the top of his or her head what scientific method actually entails.

I sincerely doubt that many of those global warming supporters have actually read the International Panel on Climate Change reports, and of the handful that may have I doubt you’d find more than a couple that actually understood the methodology or verbiage used in the reports. The first IPCC report predicted a significant rise in temperature in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, where CO2 concentrates and where it is likely to perform any minuscule role it has as a greenhouse gas. However, unfortunately for the cultists, in the predicted time period there was no observed temperature increases in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, where one would expect, yet a temperature increase of twice the predicted rate at surface level - where CO2 would have little if any effect.

Faulty predictions aside, and a willful ignorance of solar output notwithstanding, the most recent IPCC report manages to skirt faulty science and predictive models incapable of prediction with a bit off good old-fashioned prestidigitation: merely find some factor that you KNOW will increase by a set amount over a given time, and then claim that your miraculous new scientific snake oil predicts that the factor will increase by said amount.

In this case, the researchers took established sea-level trends that describe what we’d expect the sea-level to do over the next century based off of existing trends that are almost entirely independent of human industrial activity, lowball said estimates, and then claim that a perfectly normal sea-level rise as predicted by centuries of existing trend must somehow, magically, be the result of man-made climate change. ABRACADABRA! If you can’t create a mathematical model that predicts reality and confirms your theory, just make up a few numbers and hope that no one notices!

So, can I get my multi-million dollar climate research grant now?


8 posted on 04/18/2012 2:13:21 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: carriage_hill

“A mjority of Americans” meaning those who read the New York Times and watches MSNBC. So, my scientific analysis? Their audience is comprised of gullible dupes by a 2-to-1 margin...at the very least.


9 posted on 04/18/2012 2:15:21 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: carriage_hill
I'll reasonably attach it to being caused by many things - not the least of which is God's Wrath - but I will NOT hitch my cart to that globalist circle jerk scam Algore has been perpetuating for twenty years. He needs to be sharing a bar of soap with George Soros in whatever prison shower we can finally convict and sentence then both to.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


10 posted on 04/18/2012 2:23:21 AM PDT by Viking2002 ( "I didn't just write 'Wango Tango'...........I MEANT it." - Ted Nugent)
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To: Viking2002

“...sharing a bar of soap...”

Soap-on-a-rope-for-dopes.


11 posted on 04/18/2012 2:28:09 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: equaviator

At this point of all the money and supposed credibility they’ve spent, they’re all far too *invested* in it to retract or retreat in the face of factual, scientific information, to the contrary. Their twisted, sick utopian-gaia agenda takes precedence over fact, every time.


12 posted on 04/18/2012 2:32:20 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: animal172
Yes the AMISH are behind it with this evil invention:


13 posted on 04/18/2012 2:32:31 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: jameslalor

Well said, and pick-up your grant check at the last office door on the right, and the end of the hall.


14 posted on 04/18/2012 2:34:36 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: ALPAPilot

Even their “scientific” research is not scientific.


15 posted on 04/18/2012 2:34:49 AM PDT by dbeall
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To: Jagdgewehr

That amounts to millions of “uneducated skulls of mush” (Rush), and shows us all what we’re still up against, as more and more kids are indoctrinated by the criminal, corrupt left, in the failing-to-do-their-real-job, public schools.


16 posted on 04/18/2012 2:37:55 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: carriage_hill

So this polling group gives computers to poor households and then uses these folks, the least likely people to be able to understand the “global warming” nonsense and then cites their responses among the numbers. Additionally, the article doesn’t say how MANY people were polled. Polls are worthless unless you’re talking about a poll representing at least 10% of the population. Otherwise it’s just opinion. This is not science.


17 posted on 04/18/2012 2:39:35 AM PDT by dbeall
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To: lightman; SF_Redux

Ping to this thread.


18 posted on 04/18/2012 2:39:55 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Quix

This may interest you. I can imagine that when Christ Jesus raptures His Church the remaining population comfort themselves with the continuing delusion that Climate Change is responsible.


19 posted on 04/18/2012 2:49:32 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: carriage_hill

When I was in grade school (early 70s), we were taught that glaciers formed the White Mountains of New Hampshire as they descended during an ice age. From that I have always reasoned that climate change is neither unusual nor man made. I have not heard a single person complain about this version of climate change. I only wish I could believe this year’s weather patterns will continue to the end of my life.


20 posted on 04/18/2012 2:50:03 AM PDT by wizwor
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