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To: CitizenUSA
I can count on one hand the number of anti-Romney posts based on the man’s religion. My disgust for Romney and his moderate sycophants is probably the same as other FReepers. It has nothing to do with Mitt’s Mormonism and a whole lot to do with his support for big government and social liberalism. The man is a freaking Democrat posing as a Republican.

Exactly. We have a very small number of anti-Mormon trolls, and I often wonder if those few posters are plants to make us look like bigots. Anti-LDS bigotry is the opposite of valuing individualism, a trait that characterizes real conservatism. I am not LDS, but it's Romney's big government liberal political beliefs that make him unacceptable, not his worship practices.

21 posted on 04/18/2012 7:02:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Pollster1

“Anti-LDS bigotry “

I believe that is commonly referred to as the “truth”.

Bigotry is when you restrict people because of the way they are, not because you disagree with their beliefs.

Otherwise, we are all guilty of anti-Democrat and anti-liberal bigotry.


24 posted on 04/18/2012 7:12:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Pollster1

Is Romney even Mormon in the first place? Seriously. Do Mormons believe public and private behaviors are governed by a completely separate set of standards? Do Mormons believe in gay rights and abortion? As far as I can tell, Mitt Romney has a wonderful family life, but his public policies are all about creating an anti-family environment for the rest of us. Again, is that even good Mormonism?


31 posted on 04/18/2012 8:32:10 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Pollster1

Nonsense. This tripe that always gets served up about FReepers being trolls if their views happen to conflict with someone’s pet electoral theory, well, its getting stale. It’s demonization, not reasoned argument. It basically means you’ve got an empty chamber, no response to the real argument, which here is that for many of us, me included, Mittens’s religion is a factor and with good cause.

Bigotry you say? Define bigotry. I understand it to mean an uncritical rejection of something or someone, not based on reason but on pure animal impulse. Christian rejection of Mormonism is no more bigotry than rejection of global warming and the tooth fairy. Reason, augmented by history, suggests that Mormonism is incompatible, not only with the most basic elements of Christian theology, but with the principles of natural law that govern this Republic, and nonchristians as well as Christians are right to be concerned over making President a high bishop of a religion based on self-deification. As someone else said, making Romney the Republican nominee puts us in the unhappy condition of having to choose between someone who thinks they are God and someone who thinks he can become God.

Bottom line, you cannot ask voters to surrender their First Amendment right to express their beliefs at the polls, even if those beliefs are religious in nature. And you will not succeed in tarring and gathering fellow FReepers who share those beliefs, because too many of us recognize The Mormon Thing as a real and rational vulnerability to Romney’s candidacy.


39 posted on 04/18/2012 9:16:19 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Pollster1; All
We have a very small number of anti-Mormon trolls, and I often wonder if those few posters are plants to make us look like bigots

Sounds like you're intolerant about this.

Which, btw, makes you a "bigot" (by your own standards) about those who express that they take issue with multi-gods, necro-baptism, and baptizing holocaust victims.

Anti-LDS bigotry is the opposite of valuing individualism, a trait that characterizes real conservatism.

Well, you've managed to refute yourself on this thread. Because if you truly valued the "individual" religious expressions that highlighted concerns about Mormonism -- and if you truly valued those people who made those expressions, then you wouldn't go around engaging in liberal progressive tactics like calling people "bigots."

You would be more tolerant of them. You're obviously not.

Which makes you -- by your own standard -- less appreciative of their individualism...which, again, by your own measure, makes you less of a "conservative" as you define a "conservative."

45 posted on 04/18/2012 9:48:58 AM PDT by Colofornian ( The Romneybots are political descendents of Esau: Trading a FR inheritance for a 'lentil soup' guy)
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To: Pollster1

You sound like an anti-Christian troll.

Christians are obligated to expose the anti-Christian cult of Mormonism as it fights and schemes to eliminate Christianity, and Bishop Romney is a powerful figure in that cult, and their current front man as he runs to become leader of the conservative movement, and over Christian voters.


70 posted on 04/18/2012 12:32:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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