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What I want people to take away from my exchange with Bob Beckel
The Daily Caller ^ | April 18,2012 | Jennifer Stefano

Posted on 04/18/2012 9:04:32 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Monday night on Sean Hannity’s “Great American Panel” I had a little tete-a-tete with Fox News contributor and notorious liberal wit Bob Beckel. Our exchange created a bit of a sensation because at one point during it Bob dropped the f-bomb — on air. But my issue with liberals like Bob isn’t their use of foul language; it’s their imperviousness to facts.

The exchange began during a commercial break. When Bob pulled out the “class card,” accusing me of being “well to do” (I say “accusing” because to many liberals, economic success is something to be ashamed of), I told him to stick to the issues and to name one of President Obama’s spending programs that actually benefits Americans. “Head Start” was his reply.

Head Start is an early childhood development program aimed at low-income children. It, too, is an example of a failed government program.

I told Bob about a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) report released in January 2010 called the “Head Start Impact Study.” While the report acknowledges that four-year-olds enrolled in Head Start showed modest short-term gains in some subject areas as a result of the program, those gains disappeared after a few years, and “no significant impacts were found for math skills, pre-writing, children’s promotion, or teacher report of children’s school accomplishments or abilities in any year.”

In fact, according to University of Maryland professors Douglas Besharov and Douglas Call, children who are enrolled in normal day care programs receive the same educational benefits as children enrolled in Head Start, and for less than half the cost ($9,500 a year per child vs. $22,600 a year per child).

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1 posted on 04/18/2012 9:04:37 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
...and notorious liberal wit Bob Beckel.

writer missed the T as in notorious liberal twit Bob Beckel.

2 posted on 04/18/2012 9:08:01 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Hojczyk

Bob Beckle is a “wit???!!” More like witLESS! I love that Rush caught him on tape saying that libs “good intentions” went horribly wrong!!!


3 posted on 04/18/2012 9:09:02 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Hojczyk

The obnoxious Mr. Beckel.

IMHO


4 posted on 04/18/2012 9:11:26 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Hojczyk

I’ve had similar reactions from liberals to my blogs in the Worcester Telegram and Gazette. My blog on the Trayvon Martin case got the worst reactions from libtards, as you may expect. My latest, which was The Democrat War on Women and Society got only one such comment which raged about how everything is Bush’s fault.

Gotta smile when they get like that. Every time a libtard gets pissed off an angel gets their wings.


5 posted on 04/18/2012 9:14:12 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Hojczyk
. . . children who are enrolled in normal day care programs receive the same educational benefits as children enrolled in Head Start, and for less than half the cost ($9,500 a year per child vs. $22,600 a year per child).

Liberals have no comprehension of numbers. The idea of spending $22k per child for a program that doesn't work would shock any sensible person. To a liberal, "if one child benefits, then it was worth the cost". To an adult, if far more children could benefit from spending that money elsewhere, then it was not worth the cost for a failed program.

6 posted on 04/18/2012 9:14:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Hojczyk

Beckel didn’t know what the **** he was yelling about when he told Stefano she didn’t know what the **** she was talking about. I just think it makes Beckel feel good when he yells what the ****.


7 posted on 04/18/2012 9:15:23 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Hojczyk

Yes, “wit” requires a sense of humor. Beckel, like many liberals, is completely dour and humorless.


8 posted on 04/18/2012 9:16:05 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Hojczyk

I knew a woman who worked in Head Start giving aptitude tests to pre-schoolers chosen by the system for special attention because they were in a welfare family or whatever.

Every so often she’d see one of them a few years later; as it was a small town she had some idea how they were doing in school (usually not that well). There were many times where she just shook her head and wondered if their time in Head Start had helped them at all.

This was thirty years ago, FWIW.


9 posted on 04/18/2012 9:16:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Peter from Rutland
I stumbled on a simple response to impervious liberals; I ask them, "Are you the type of liberal who thinks America should be punished and deconstructed for our success, or one of the type who just supports those folks?"

The long winded attempts to ambiguously say noting that I get in response are sometimes humorous. The true liberals will admit that they want America torn asunder and they think Obama is the guy who can do it.

10 posted on 04/18/2012 9:20:15 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Hojczyk
There are several HeadStart locations here, in the Yakima Valley. They are nothing but an expensive babysitting service where the kids learn nothing.

My wife taught many of the product of HeadStart until she retired. Those kids knew no more than those who had gone through regular kindergarten.

11 posted on 04/18/2012 9:21:38 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Hojczyk

Nothing has changed in education since Milton Friedman started talking, decades ago, about the difference between Input and Output in the educational system.

Input is how much money we put in.

Output is the results we achieve in terms of educated children.

As Friedman pointed out a long time ago, as Input increases, Output decreases.


12 posted on 04/18/2012 9:21:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Hojczyk

When Beckel is on Fox, my TV isn’t.


13 posted on 04/18/2012 9:22:18 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Hojczyk

Head Start has existed for decades. And decades.

What improvement has it shown?


14 posted on 04/18/2012 9:22:18 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Hojczyk

Bob Bechtel is a typical Liberal: He has a Big Mouth and an Empty Head!


15 posted on 04/18/2012 9:32:27 AM PDT by Mr. C (Take Back America!)
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To: Hojczyk

Because to many liberals, economic success is something to be ashamed of.

What they preach never matches what practice.Keep them poor and you keep them under your thumb.


16 posted on 04/18/2012 9:33:01 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Hojczyk

Even when I used to watch Fox, I refused to watch Beckel and for one simple reason. I couldn’t reach through the screen to get my hands around his throat.


17 posted on 04/18/2012 9:33:27 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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18 posted on 04/18/2012 9:33:42 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Hojczyk
notorious liberal wit Bob Beckel.

WIT? He's an overweight Clinton-thug bag of crap and hasn't been funny yet. WIT? Are you serious? Maybe Hannity thinks he a barrel of laughs, but I think he's totally pathetic . . . and certainly not a WIT!

19 posted on 04/18/2012 9:35:24 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Gator113

” , I refused to watch Beckel and for one simple reason. I couldn’t reach through the screen to get my hands around his throat.”

I had the same problem ;)


20 posted on 04/18/2012 9:36:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Gator113

” , I refused to watch Beckel and for one simple reason. I couldn’t reach through the screen to get my hands around his throat.”

I had the same problem ;)


21 posted on 04/18/2012 9:36:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Parmy

My understanding of Yakima Valley Head Start was mostly for the migrate children.

As for bob beckel — he is the epitome of the democrat party.


22 posted on 04/18/2012 9:37:07 AM PDT by malia
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To: Pollster1

They could enroll the child at a top notch pre-k for 22k, liberals are stupid. All though I believe they do all of this to enlarge their base (unions).


23 posted on 04/18/2012 9:42:02 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Peter from Rutland

I liked what you said so much, I made it my tagline! I hope you don’t mind.


24 posted on 04/18/2012 9:44:45 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Every time a libtard gets pissed off an angel gets their wings.)
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To: Hojczyk

Mr. Beckel is only a step or two better than Crypt Keeper Commie Colmes.


25 posted on 04/18/2012 9:45:09 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: Parmy
Those kids knew no more than those who had gone through regular kindergarten.

And furthermore, what do kids in regular kindergarten (and preschool, for that matter) learn that is so essential to know at that age and stage of life that would justify the hefty cost to taxpayers?

The alphabet? How to count? How to read simple words?

The topics that are introduced via early childhood education programs over a period of years can be mastered in a few days by a child of 7 or 8.

Early childhood education is a boondoggle.

26 posted on 04/18/2012 9:48:04 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Last Dakotan

I had a little tete-a-tete with Fox News contributor and notorious liberal wit Bob Beckel.

I would say Bob Beckel is a half wit at best.


27 posted on 04/18/2012 9:55:40 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Last Dakotan

Beckel is also a loser. When he was running Dem campaigns they didn’t just lose... they got shellacked. With the Democrat party’s ascendency he must feel like a losing football coach attending the Superbowl as somebody’s guest.


28 posted on 04/18/2012 9:56:27 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Hojczyk

Head Start is free daycare, plain and simple.

I have taken a toddler from a poor broken home who was 2 and had never seen a book. I babysat her for free. She loved the little board books I got her and sat one on one and read to her. That’s what these kids need — QUANTITY TIME with a loved one.

My little sweetie memorized the books and then got the connection between the words and started learning to read. She was smart, even though there was a good chance she had fetal alcohol syndrome. She was alone with an abusive dad and finally after about 4 years got taken away, thank goodness. We all reported him but nothing happened for a long time. Hope she turned out ok.


29 posted on 04/18/2012 9:56:36 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: jiggyboy

Probably not the fault of Head Start. It is more likely the grinding negativity of the public school system. It’s little more than a warehouse in the ‘poorer’ school districts.


30 posted on 04/18/2012 9:58:54 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: combat_boots

When I read that “Head Start” was started under Good Ole’ Lyndon Baines Johnson and was part of the then “Great Society” “suite” of programs that alone to me was more than enough to indicate the uselessness of the program.

You know what galls me the most is that we have now had these anti-poverty programs for close to 50 years now .... and we still have poverty! Doesn’t that mean they’re “Not Working? and maybe they should either be modified or discontinued? or Perhaps a new approach is in order?


31 posted on 04/18/2012 10:02:54 AM PDT by Mr. C (Take Back America!)
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To: Hojczyk

What a great analysis by the OP — she cages liberalism in a few paragraphs.

When the facts don’t support the idea, liberals just scream “F U” since that is all they have.


32 posted on 04/18/2012 10:03:59 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Hojczyk
Am I the only one who is Gobsmacked by the cost of this program????

What could POSSIBLY be taught to a pre-schooler that costs $22,000 a year ???? My kids aren't spending anywhere near that on college tuition!

33 posted on 04/18/2012 10:10:24 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("Your money or your life" has been the Dems unwritten motto for a long time)
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To: Enterprise
Everyone seems so upset that he said the f-word on live television; but, I was just as angry with him yelling that obscenity at this woman. Total lack of class, total (well, you fill in the blank).

I simply cannot stand Bob Beckel and refuse to watch any show that he is on.

34 posted on 04/18/2012 10:18:31 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: freedumb2003

Note the complete lack of respect for her as a lady that Beckel displayed by throwing the F-bomb at her.

Where I come from, those fighting words are only used, if ever, for man vs. man.

Just as a man must never hit a woman.

He’s supposedly in the pro-woman, anti-bullying party, but Beckel proved what a sissy bully he is...attacking a woman that way.

Hannity should have suspended him from the program.


35 posted on 04/18/2012 10:20:08 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten kid.)
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To: Hojczyk

I still wonder why Hannity bothers to have the likes of Beckel and that clueless Tamera Holder on that is a lawyer but yet she always takes the liberal view and seems to have no common sense. To a lesser extent the other liberal woman but on 10% of the time will side with conservatives sort of like Juan Williams.


36 posted on 04/18/2012 10:22:10 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Terry Mross

Absolute dittos. I would like to see him in person, though, so I can knock him on his fat ass.


37 posted on 04/18/2012 10:23:23 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Hojczyk

Bob Beckel — The reason not to watch Fox.


38 posted on 04/18/2012 10:28:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Sure, because the money doesn't go to those kids, but to teachers paying union dues and giving bureaucrats more job positions within government that democrats can use as patronage for votes.

And they said Tammany Hall ended in the 1800’s.....

39 posted on 04/18/2012 10:28:59 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Hojczyk

How about obnoxious dimwit!


40 posted on 04/18/2012 10:30:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hojczyk
I had a little tete-a-tete with Fox News contributor and notorious liberal wit Bob Beckel.

I have thought of many things to call Bob Beckel but wit was never one of them.

41 posted on 04/18/2012 10:33:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: LibertarianLiz
"I was just as angry with him yelling that obscenity at this woman."

Just another Democrat perpetuating the war on women. It's genetic.

42 posted on 04/18/2012 10:35:57 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Terry Mross

I agree. Whenever Beckel is on Hannity, I change channels.


43 posted on 04/18/2012 10:38:15 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: Hojczyk; hocndoc; spankalib; drbuzzard; DJ MacWoW; rightwingintelligentsia; detective

” - - - But my issue with liberals like Bob isn’t their use of foul language; it’s their imperviousness to facts.”

Any ideas on why most Libs have an imperviousness to facts?

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/17/what-i-want-people-to-take-away-from-my-exchange-with-bob-beckel/#ixzz1sPjWHAZk


44 posted on 04/18/2012 10:39:30 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

45 posted on 04/18/2012 10:44:47 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: repentant_pundit

>>Hannity should have suspended him from the program.<<

if it wasn’t legally actionable, Hannity should have decked him on her behalf.


46 posted on 04/18/2012 10:45:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Blue Highway

I still wonder why Hannity bothers to have the likes of Beckel....

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I still wonder why anyone bothers to watch Hannity the talentless.


47 posted on 04/18/2012 10:51:46 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Graewoulf

I have an idea...it is that their overwhelming need, their compulsion to “think well of themselves” trumps reality.

As an aside, because of this blind obsession, they create starker, more dismal realities for the rest of us.


48 posted on 04/18/2012 10:53:03 AM PDT by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: RightWingConspirator

Beckel reminds me of a union boss hack! Those stupid suspenders must be to tight...they are choking off blood to his brain.


49 posted on 04/18/2012 10:56:46 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Hojczyk
"...liberal wit Bob Beckel..."

I think she meant "whit".

50 posted on 04/18/2012 10:57:51 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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