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Recording captures Texas cop shooting and killing man's dog after showing up at the wrong house
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Posted on 04/18/2012 8:41:58 PM PDT by Arthurio

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To: Osage Orange

I deal with suburban cops, they’re the ones who are smart enough to get out of the fight. The city cops are the ones who are not so smart. I’d bet the percentage of beat cops using steroids in high tension urban neighborhoods is way above the 25% from the SOURCE YOU REQUESTED, and probably a lot higher than the 40% previously stated. These cops are not there protecting me, they are there, in the time bomb neighborhoods, FOR A FIGHT.


51 posted on 04/19/2012 12:11:35 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: El Gato
While this is a tragedy, what would y’all have the cop do? Let the dog take a piece out of his leg?

It's a CATTLE dog, bred to annoy, not cripple. At worst his trousers might get ripped.

52 posted on 04/19/2012 12:19:26 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Arthurio
Cop is a plain LIAR to his Superior when she comes on scene.
He completely lies about what happened to her.
The shave head who comes as back-up is useless as well.
Another 'roid rage cop looking to explode.

"Get your dog!"..BANG!

15 minutes and 45 seconds into this the 2 cops decide to find the correct address they were responding to....POSs.
53 posted on 04/19/2012 12:22:47 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Arthurio

Just killing the competition. Cops know that dogs actually understand what “To Serve and Protect” means.


54 posted on 04/19/2012 12:23:53 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal any Gov. program that is an utter failure is only so because there's not enough of it.)
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To: robowombat

“Honest LEO’s who are Freepers need to comment on the truth that common current police doctrine is to shoot any dog that is slightly aggressive to appropriately terrorize the civilians.”

I’ll second that. I’d like to know what is standard police doctrine regarding a dog in or on the premises of a private residence to which a police officer has been summoned or dispatched. It appears, rightly or wrongly, that “first take down the dog” is SOP.


55 posted on 04/19/2012 12:28:09 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Elsiejay

I suspect it is the “take out the dog first” training that the LEOs get when they put on their ninja uniforms and play Jack Boot.

I am all for the same laws applying to cops shooting citizens dogs as it is for citizens shooting Cop’s dogs.

Listen to the Jackboots whine then...


56 posted on 04/19/2012 12:55:49 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Arthurio

You know, if I wanted to come up with some police policy that would rapidly and completely undermine any trust the public feels for law enforcement, it would be the reflexive and remorseless shooting of family dogs.


57 posted on 04/19/2012 1:00:03 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: PhiloBedo
What I don’t understand is, if they are afraid of a dog running at them, why don’t they use their pepper spray? I’ve had to use it on charging dogs, and it stops them in their tracks.

Because this is obviously what they are trained to do and supported in doing by department policy.

What I want to know is who is instituting such policies?

58 posted on 04/19/2012 1:04:44 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: dragnet2

Good thing it was not his 3 year old child waving a plastic bat.


59 posted on 04/19/2012 1:05:41 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: mfreddy
LEOs are a good breed. They do a job most of us can’t do, and get paid less for it.

HAHAHA! Good one!

60 posted on 04/19/2012 1:08:30 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: dragnet2

If this is accurate, then at least in Austin, it’s unofficial policy to shoot dogs:

A friend of mine had an APD detective play guitar in his band for about a year. The detective told him the cops are trained to shoot any dog that “gets in the way.” It’s an unofficial policy that is part of the SWAT training. So these cops know they can shoot first and ask questions later and the department will back them up. When APD claims they have no “official” policy for handling dogs in these situations, it is the truth. They only have an “unofficial” policy and that is shoot the dog first, apologize later (if you feel like it). People who think this is no big deal would probably sing a different tune if it was their dog.

(Taken from one of the comments here: http://www.kvue.com/news/Public-outrage-building-up-over-Austin-Police-Officer-who-fatally-shot-a-dog-147681755.html )


61 posted on 04/19/2012 12:27:49 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: AnTiw1
ABC, AOL...????

Really...??

62 posted on 04/19/2012 12:52:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Osage Orange

I’m starting with the “As”...what news organizations DO bootlickers consider authoritative these days?


63 posted on 04/19/2012 1:03:29 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1

What’s “as”?


64 posted on 04/19/2012 1:05:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Osage Orange
New Jersey Lawmakers Seek Crackdown on Steroid Use by Cops (Fox News)

They have these things called search engines...some people's religious beliefs forbid them...

65 posted on 04/19/2012 1:30:28 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: AnTiw1

And some folks are never wrong.


66 posted on 04/19/2012 1:37:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: robowombat

My thoughts are the officer is wrong. He was at the wrong address. It was the correct one given by dispatch so that is his only cover.

My issue is that he pulls his gun on the male person walking around the corner, yells at him to put up his hands, then yells to control the dog, then he shoots.
This occurs in the span of about 2 seconds. The male citizen was not expecting the police so I am sure he was startled, which startled the dog.

Once you put your gun into your hand you have great difficulty transitioning to another less lethal weapon. He should never have had his gun out unless he saw a weapon. This would have allowed him to transition to another weapon or take the extra second or two to determine if he was indeed under a threat.

Too many LEO’s pull the gun when there is no need.


67 posted on 04/19/2012 1:47:38 PM PDT by midcop402
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To: dragnet2
They are all considered 'legimate' by the Police Dept's.

Clearly heat has to be placed on the Mayors, because the Police don't care.

68 posted on 04/19/2012 2:37:07 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl; maine-iac7; WXRGina; Talisker; expat1000

“Mixing native Dingoes with Collies and other herding dogs, Australian George Elliott developed the Blue Heeler in 1840. Australian cattlemen and ranchers loved the breed’s toughness and work ethic, and the dogs quickly became popular as cattle herders. Hey Texan, check this out: http://youtu.be/T7fzQehxz_Q And, of course, it’s a Blue Heeler!”

Maybe that picture in the story didn’t do him justice, but that video, WOW. Impressive dog, and yes, VERY CUTE.


69 posted on 04/19/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

Now that that’s out of the way, do you have any comments on the shooting itself?


70 posted on 04/19/2012 8:12:55 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Osage Orange

plural of “A”, written as As when the letter is uppercase and a’s when the letter is lowercase.

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-to-form-a-plural-with-an-apostrophe/


71 posted on 04/19/2012 9:59:57 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Ken H

“Now that that’s out of the way, do you have any comments on the shooting itself?”

Nothing original...sounds like rouge cop.


72 posted on 04/19/2012 11:48:07 PM PDT by BobL
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