Posted on 04/19/2012 4:44:54 PM PDT by blam
Yup. With a hurricane warning, I evacuate a few more miles inland to my cousins house.
When the economic collapse comes, I'll stay home with my suupplies and fight if necessary.
I REALLY don’t mean any offense to anyone, but I’ve always considered Nawlins a third world country that somehow got attached to the USofA.
Yup.
46% of the people in New Orleans cannot read or write...same for Detroit.
Are you suggesting the American Indians just magically appeared on this continent?
If not, how did they get here?
Gen 11:8
So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.
“I’m looking for an excuse to trade around for a good sailboat that can be brought up to shape for circumnavigation.”
I’m a liveaboard on a small cruising sailboat in JAX, let me know your requirements and I’ll keep an eye out; I do see cheap fixer upper sailboats regularly...not necessarily exactly when you want them.
One thing many new people do is insist on a blue water, go anywhere boat, then they find out the price is in the sky, both to buy and maintain, and 99.99% of the time, that boat is not going to sail through blue water conditions. With proper preparation much humbler boats have circumnavigated on much more frugal budgets. My favorite example is the Martin family, who began their circumnavigation as newlyweds aboard a Cal24 and completed it as parents of a family of 5...and they had next to nothing, worked his way around the world.
As far as a SHTF platform, this is my home, I already live the lifestyle seperated from the electrical grid snd all services...my bug out means I raise anchor, head for Nassau and watch the news. If its long term, there are few pkaces in the Caribbean where s dollar goes farther than the Dominican, many cruisers like Panama, Guatemala has what amounts to a cruiser capital in the Rio Dulces, although theres a lot of unrest there lately...some people say they get palatial service in Colombia as long as they never leave the marina.
One huge sailboat...just under 50’, I believe...tight as a drum but needs handyman everywhere, no engine, no mast...the guy just uses it as a houseboat and he did say once he’d take 5k for it. He even found a mast for it for $800 but balked when he found the cost of the truck to bring it and the crane to set it were more than the mast...and $800 buys a lot of beer, if you know what I mean.
Anyway, let me know just what you’re interested in and if I see something I’ll shoot you a line.
Thanks for the info. I am just finishing up on a Thompson 260 fisherman, popular around the great lakes. We stripped it down to the hull, replaced the stringers, soaked them with epoxy, topped with silicone, and covered them with fiberglass. We redid the deck, soaking wafer with several coats of epoxy, and sealing them in silicone and then fiberglass. It should be good for twenty or thirty years. We built a new 350, starting with a 4 bolt main, bored .30 with Vortec heads, nice cam. everything from fuel tank hoses and lines to control cables, etc have been replace, along with new gauges. We put on all new gimbal and transom fittings, and rebuilt the outdrive, using one that is essentially new. Everything from rail bolts to cleats, to the anchor mother have been gone through, fixed or replaced, including wiring, 12 volt and 120. We just finished putting a non skid coat on on the deck, and will give it a nice paint job on the hull today and tomorrow. The trailer is heavy aluminum, and we are thinking about putting stainless axles and carriage on it. The boat is literally better than what it was new, with all the typical poor fitting pieces replaced with good fitting pieces. There is still work to be done, some electronics, fishfinder, gps and so on, maybe radar. ...And in today’s market, with the price of gas, it isn’t worth much. When the time comes, I hope to make a trade with it. Of course, I have other things that can go when it is time to bug out. Happy sailing.
Sounds like you have the skills...FWIW I correspond witj a couple families who basically went to the SouthSeas and never came back...and I’m told anyone who has repair skills, partocularly diesel repair and refrigeration a/c, as well ad computers can fond plenty of work to keep body and soul together just from helping out other (wealthy) cruisers...need a powerful radio to contact nearby boats and determine their needs...food for thought
OK, if you want to go back to when flesh man were first engineered by God and the Elohim, then yes, everyone is descended from someone who bugged out. I was speaking more of ancestors we can remember. Every non-American-Indian American is descended within the last 400 years of those that bugged out.
You basically asked "Who are the American Indians and where did they come from?". That's controversial to those who want to cover up what is written. How open-minded are you?
Are there any sailing groups/communities that barter or trade with gold and silver?
Open-minded enough to entertain a rational argument.
Haven’t heard much precious metal trade, but swapping of everything else under the sun. Boats, engines, cars, skilled labor. Offshore different people have different ideas what are good trade items. I’ve heard used electrical appliances and pcs, coke/soda, rum.
SailNet is a big board with lots of cruiser notes & advice.
Debates on this subject are never rational. Satanic forces have been very efficient at not allowing discussion of this subject.
Thanks for the info.
I think you have the right idea. The sailing community is a self-sufficient, resourceful community, since going out on the open sea in a small boat is a dangerous thing to do. A person has to be resourceful to get from point A to point B out there. If there will be any group that can weather the coming currency storm I think the sailing community will have the best prospects.
“I’m looking for an excuse to trade around for a good sailboat that can be brought up to shape for circumnavigation.”
That was, or could be again, a dream of mine. I sailed for many years on Lake Erie. I have sailed in the Bahamas, and in Ireland. Circumnavigation would require going around the horns in a bugout situation...avoiding the Panama and Suez Canals. Properly equipped, one could find that desert island paradise...especially with some foreknowledge and planning. Then the world could go to hell in a handbasket and one could be comfortable and safe.
For now though, I am prepared to bugin for as long as necessary in our quasi-rural setting. We have a surrey and horses trained as a team to pull it. My ancestors were Marblehead seamen and pioneers, they fought in the Revolution and in the Civil War (and those that followed) and it is in my blood. We are survivors. We are overcomers. Our God is Good!
bttt for reading
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