The 411 about the Trayvon Martin timeline

Chicago Tribune ^ | 20 apr 2012 | Eric Zorn

[lentulusgracchus]

IMHO, with all the racial stereotypes out there and despite all the claims of “white racism,” Zimmerman doesn’t look like a “cracker” at all. He looks and sounds Latino.

Peru, his mother's homeland, has a microscopic creole presence, and a mestizo fraction of proportions I don't recall .... it isn't large. Most of Peru is mestizo or pureblooded Andean Indian, indio in Spanish. Zimmermann looks like a Peruvian Indian, and even his complexion is considerably darker than shown on TV earlier this month. When he appeared in new video in a well-lit courtroom, I was surprised at how "bruce" his overall coloration is. He really does look indio.

[lentulusgracchus]

She may have even prodded martin to go back and confront Zimmerman (just my speculation).

I'd bet real foldin money on that...a month's salary. I can even hear the words (In a whiney voice): "If you don't kick that cracker's ass, you can forget gettin' nothin' from me.

Time to call the NSA. It's fair odds that that conversation is in memory in their giant eavesdropping network somewhere.

[lentulusgracchus]

I will bet the Martin’s GF knows a whole lot more then she is telling. She may have even prodded martin to go back and confront Zimmerman (just my speculation).....

Isn't cherchez la femme carved in stone over the doorway of every French police station?

[kanawa]

[PapaBear3625]

Someone pointed out that seizing a gun like that is a grappling skill taught in prison, among other places .... it will absolutely prevent a revolver from firing.

I also was taught to grab an opponent's gun that way during a class on weapons retention and disarming techniques. Among other things, you have more leverage than the guy holding the gun at the grip. If Trayvon grabbed the gun there, what he failed to do was use his superior leverage to immediately POINT THE GUN AWAY FROM HIMSELF.

[ngat]

“The expended brass was still in the chamber.”

That’s just contrary to the reports that said the chamber was empty and the shell that was fired had been ejected, which is what the whole discussion was based on. Changing the facts that the discussion is predicated on renders the discussion meaningless.

“seizing a gun like that.... will absolutely prevent a revolver from firing.”

seizing a gun like what will keep a revolver from firing? like with a grip on the barrel across the top of the slide attempting to prevent the slide from blowing back when the first shot is fired? but a revolver has no slide. And how would your undescribed grip absolutely keep a semi-automatic from firing? did you mean, from firing more than once?

[Tired of Taxes]

Thanks for the information. If Zimmerman's last name did not sound "white", we might never have heard about this case. I posted this story not long ago. It doesn't seem to be receiving any national attention.

[TigersEye]

Here is an amazingly fair account of the timeline of events in the Chicago Tribune. Albeit a blog in the CT. It’s not going to help the prosecution much at all.