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Bail set at $150G for George Zimmerman while he awaits trial in Trayvon Martin shooting death
FoxNews.com ^ | 4/20/2012 | unknown

Posted on 04/20/2012 9:14:17 AM PDT by servo1969

URGENT: A Florida judge said George Zimmerman can be released on $150,000 bail as he awaits trial for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester set several conditions Friday for Zimmerman's release. He cannot have any firearms, drink alcohol or use drugs and must observe a curfew. The judge said details need to be worked out between Zimmerman's attorney and law enforcement, and that Zimmerman will not be released Friday.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the 17-year-old Martin's death during a February confrontation in a Sanford, Fla., gated community. He is claiming self-defense.

The bail for Zimmerman was announced Friday shortly after he took the witness stand, telling the parents of Martin, "I am sorry for the loss of your son," but standing by his claim that he killed the teen in self-defense.

Zimmerman told Martin's parents, who were present in the courtroom, that he did not know that Martin was 17 and that he was unarmed during their February confrontation in a central Florida neighborhood.

"I did not know how old he was," Zimmerman said. "I thought he was a little younger than I am. I did not know if he was armed or not."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bail; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; martin; murder; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanhearing
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1 posted on 04/20/2012 9:14:25 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

What? He can’t even have a beer?


2 posted on 04/20/2012 9:18:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: servo1969

It’ll be fun to watch the MSM newslime try to continue their ‘white man guns down lasck child’ narrative after everyone gets a good look at the unadorned image of Mr Zimmerman.


3 posted on 04/20/2012 9:21:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cicero
That's standard.

/johnny

4 posted on 04/20/2012 9:22:36 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: skeeter

lasck is polish for black


5 posted on 04/20/2012 9:22:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

polish is Polish for Polish


6 posted on 04/20/2012 9:23:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: servo1969

No firearms. Not allowed to defend himself again even though there is a wanted dead-or-alive bounty on his head.


7 posted on 04/20/2012 9:24:32 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: servo1969
He cannot have any firearms, drink alcohol or use drugs and must observe a curfew.

So they've got him convicted already. He isn't being treated like a free man. He's being treated like a convict on release.

8 posted on 04/20/2012 9:24:46 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: servo1969

Rioting to start in 3...2...1...


9 posted on 04/20/2012 9:25:13 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: servo1969

If I had the money, I’d contribute to his bail. His parents have to put up their house for his bail. This whole thing stinks.

And what’s with the prosecutor describing Martin as some innocent kid attacked while walking home? Nothing in this case has been proven.

Sounds to me like the fix is in.


10 posted on 04/20/2012 9:30:31 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: servo1969
The hearing took place just hours after ABC News released an exclusive photograph that claims to show the bloodied back of Zimmerman's head. The photo, reportedly taken three minutes after Zimmerman shot and killed Martin, appears to support Zimmerman's claim that Martin had bashed his head against concrete.

Huh? What relevance does the release of a photo have to do with the timing of this hearing? Makes it sound like the Media is driving the legal process even more than it already is.

11 posted on 04/20/2012 9:31:11 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Cboldt; maggief; kristinn; rolling_stone; little jeremiah

Hope he has security.


12 posted on 04/20/2012 9:37:38 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: LibWhacker

Is it legal for the court to not allow a citizen to defend their own life with a firearm if they have been charged with murder while out on bail?


13 posted on 04/20/2012 9:37:56 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Tallguy

Anyone have a link to that photo?


14 posted on 04/20/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: servo1969

At least the reporter in the video did mention him getting his head repeatedly banged on the pavement.

I know this is Fox News. I wonder if the rest of the scum-bag media repeats that fact.


15 posted on 04/20/2012 9:44:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: hoosiermama
Anyone have a link to that photo?


16 posted on 04/20/2012 9:48:53 AM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: hoosiermama

How long before somebody in the law enforcement food chain releases the GPS coordinates on this guy? Seems when passions run high that confidential information has a way of leaking.


17 posted on 04/20/2012 9:51:51 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: servo1969
The bail seems low for a second degree murder charge.

My first thought was the judge recognizes a low probability of conviction?

Can any legal eagles weih in on that?

18 posted on 04/20/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: servo1969
The bail seems low for a second degree murder charge.

My first thought was the judge recognizes a low probability of conviction?

Can any legal eagles weigh in on that?

19 posted on 04/20/2012 9:55:02 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Tallguy
TanKlan better hope that not a hair on his head is damaged or they WILL be held responsible.
20 posted on 04/20/2012 9:56:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: servo1969

Waiting for Crump’s media circus conference.....


21 posted on 04/20/2012 9:56:53 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: servo1969

Somebody for the Martin family spoke (screeched) to the press immediately after Z’s lawyer did. He was so angry that Z got out on bail that he could barely speak.

So much for “all we want is for him to be arrested”, which everybody knew was a lie.


22 posted on 04/20/2012 9:58:04 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: hoosiermama

Really?
By whom?
The AG, Eric (the race-whore) Holder?

NOT.


23 posted on 04/20/2012 9:59:45 AM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Legal experts had earlier predicted Zimmerman would likely be granted bail. Key factors include his ties to the local community and that he doesn’t appear to be a flight risk since he turned himself in voluntarily after he was charged last week. He also has never been convicted of a serious crime, which would indicate he doesn’t pose a threat to society.

“Although it’s not routine for people charged with murder to get bond, they do get bond, and I think there is an excellent argument to be made in his specific case for him to be released on bond,” said defense attorney Randy McClean, who practices in Seminole County, about 15 miles northeast of Orlando.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/04/judge_grants_george_zimmerman.html


24 posted on 04/20/2012 10:01:49 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: LibWhacker
No firearms. Not allowed to defend himself again even though there is a wanted dead-or-alive bounty on his head.

Does not mean that he can't have one or more armed friends hanging out with him 24/7.

25 posted on 04/20/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: LibWhacker

He cannot have any firearms, drink alcohol or use drugs and must observe a curfew.

AND he will have electronic monitoring at all times. He hasn’t been convicted and they have him under house arrest.

Sex offenders have the electronic monitoring anklets and they just cut them off and disappear any time they want.


26 posted on 04/20/2012 10:13:05 AM PDT by Chainsawj (Looks like I have NOBODY to vote FOR, I'll just vote againest the dems.......AGAIN.)
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To: jiggyboy
I agree with all you said and am not questioning the decision to grant bail, I am just curious how the bail level for Zimmerman compares to other 2nd degree murder cases (yes lots of variables there as you mention).

But this case is not about convicting Zimmerman, or 'justice' for Treyvon this case is about appeasement of the usual race mongers and revenge for Treyvon's death.

The low bail seems an indication of fairness on the part of the judge.

27 posted on 04/20/2012 10:14:16 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I think it is legal, though it's definitely not just. This innocent (and that's not just a technical quibble) man has been made virtually defenseless during this whole process, whether it lasts a few months or few years.

Where the heck in the Constitution does it imply the state can strip an innocent person of the constitutional right to defend himself by any legal means?

28 posted on 04/20/2012 10:24:20 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: servo1969
In a dramatic moment during the hearing, a detective, under questioning from O'Mara, admitted that it has no clear evidence that Zimmerman attacked Trayvon Martin first.

Oops.This is from the ABC News article.

How interesting that ABC News is publishing a picture today taken THREE minutes after the shooting showing the back of Zimmerman's head is bloody, by a neighbor.

Here's another gem from the ABC News article:

Zimmerman's parents and wife Shellie testified at the hearing by phone because they did not want to make a public appearance out of fear for their safety.

Wonderful:

And yet another gem:

Crump, the Martin family attorney, is skeptical. "How bad could it have been if they didn't take him to the hospital [and] didn't stitch him up," he said in a statement to ABC News in response to the image. "The special prosecutor has seen all the evidence and still believes George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin."

Didn't this idiot attorney read the paramedics and the police reports? It clearly says there Zimmerman was stitched up at the scene before removal in the police car.

Anything to keep the " shot in the back like a rabid dog in the street" meme going, like that crazy Congresswoman.

My theory:

1. Contact between Zimmerman and Martin breaks off. Zimmerman walks back to his vehicle. Zimmerman does not know where Martin is.

2. Martin doubles back with the intention of confronting Zimmerman for whatever reason.

3. Martins jumps Zimmerman from behind and start pummeling Zimmerman , and grabbing Zimmerman's head and bouncing it into the sidewalk.

4. At some point it becomes evident to Martin there is a gun in Zimmerman's waistband and Martin goes for it.

5. A struggle for the gun ensues-- Zimmerman realizes if he loses the gun, he is a dead man.

6. In the struggle, the gun is fired into Martin at very close range(other photos taken by the same neighbor, who heard the scuffle but did not see it and who supplied ABCNews with the Zimmerman head photo, purportedly shows the powder burns on Martin's hoodie.)

Anyone seen the coroner's report yet?

29 posted on 04/20/2012 10:29:39 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Good point. I hope so. That appears to be his only option at this point. Probably prohibitively expensive for him to hire professional bodyguards.

Hope he has lots of good friends who are exquisitely patient and understanding. He's going to need them.

30 posted on 04/20/2012 10:30:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: hoosiermama
Transcripts of the hearing are available.

Zimmerman Bond Hearing Transcript No. 1
Zimmerman Bond Hearing Transcript No. 2

31 posted on 04/20/2012 10:35:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: exit82

“Anyone seen the coroner’s report yet?”
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The overzealous, Nifong-like, politically motivated prosecutor is hiding that along with all the other exculpatory evidence from the public.


32 posted on 04/20/2012 10:39:23 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Anyone seen the coroner’s report yet?”


I’ve wondered about that too, I bet the drug panel has some interesting dope on it. /pun


33 posted on 04/20/2012 11:05:31 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

It be testin’ poz-o-tive fo’ Skillets ‘n IT!


34 posted on 04/20/2012 11:21:21 AM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits)
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To: Cboldt; All

Thanks.

Megan Kelly/FOX is about to play ZImmerman’s testamony.


35 posted on 04/20/2012 11:22:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: servo1969

Fox must have had their lib intern write this story. About half of it’s wrong.


36 posted on 04/20/2012 11:24:48 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: LibWhacker; Fred Nerks

The most egregious jeopardy Zimmerman is under, is from the thug personal agents of president Obama himself. Someone should have mentioned THAT to the judge at the first opportunity, and the judge could have ruled that the so called president of the United States NOT comment further on ANY aspect of the case, in the interests of a fair trial..

That would have been very interesting.


37 posted on 04/20/2012 11:25:10 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That a normal condition for the circumstances. There’s nothing to preclude him from having someone else come to his defense.


38 posted on 04/20/2012 11:28:13 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: LibWhacker

Leftist have little uses for real justice, only their political agenda matters above all things.


39 posted on 04/20/2012 11:30:37 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: MarineDad

LOL! Good one!


40 posted on 04/20/2012 11:32:13 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: All

BTW, has anyone noticed that besides this Crump guy, there’s 2 or 3 other lawyers that go on the cable channels and speak as the Martin family attorney.

How many attorneys does the Martin family actually have?


41 posted on 04/20/2012 11:33:56 AM PDT by PizzaTheHut
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To: ArmstedFragg

But what if he dies or is severely injured because he didn’t have a gun to defend himself with? Is the judge held liable for his death?


42 posted on 04/20/2012 12:10:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: servo1969

They’re busily trying to turn Zimmerman’s statement into an apology, then claim that the apology is evidence of guilt. If you read the comment in context, he expressed sympathy for their loss, but didn’t provide an apology for the simple reason that he has nothing to apologize for.

It’s just amazing how far the MSM is willing to diverge from reality in pursuit of their agenda.


43 posted on 04/20/2012 12:37:25 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks Cboldt. I missed the hearing, and have only read comments here at FR.


44 posted on 04/20/2012 12:42:54 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That argument cuts both ways, and you’ll have to admit that (while it may not apply here), the risk of futher violent acts on the part of someone charged with committing one is higher than the risk of someone charged with committing a violent felony being assaulted by a stranger.

And... no... the court has no liability in the event of an assault on Zimmerman.


45 posted on 04/20/2012 12:44:41 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

But he hasn’t been convicted of a crime, just charged. When Zimmerman is exonerated how will he go about having his right to bear arms restored for a crime he never committed?


46 posted on 04/20/2012 1:40:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Candor7

permanently.

47 posted on 04/20/2012 4:16:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The bail conditions apply only during the time he’s out on bail.


48 posted on 04/20/2012 7:08:46 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cboldt

Thank you for the transcript links.

I missed it live. From comments it sounds as if O’Mara was very good.


49 posted on 04/20/2012 7:40:53 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
There is a third section of transcript ...

Zimmerman Bail Hearing - Transcript Section 3

O'Mara did a very good job. The prosecution has no evidence that Zimmerman started the fight, no evidence that he did not abide by dispatch suggestion to not follow. No evidence for some of the critical assertions in the affidavit.

50 posted on 04/21/2012 4:39:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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