Skip to comments.Data Recording Black Boxes Likely in All Cars by 2015: Senate Passes Bill
Posted on 04/20/2012 10:59:29 AM PDT by unique1
Black boxes in cars? Weve reported on it before, but a bill requiring such devices has recently passed the U.S. Senate and is expected to fare the same in the House.
If it goes all the way, cars built after 2015 will all have tattlers to give specific information on a cars activity. If implemented, the devices are meant to be used by emergency responders during an accident, but the applications are far from limited to those incidents.
Some are worried that installing such devices offer unprecedented invasions of privacy, bordering on big brother level surveillance of everyday citizens. Going to the wrong place, or driving the wrong way could flag you for suspicious activity (in theory).
Isn't that special?
Incompetence on parade...
Is there anything that the government can’t soil more than it already has? No, and it’s doing it’s damnedest to cover everything as soon as it can.
Long live Big Brother!
(I love Big Brother)
This will be a first step to states taxing us by each mile we drive.
Not Black Boxes. Democrat Boxes that will be used not simply to collect accident data, but also destinations and conversations of those who may oppose the Democratic Party.
“This will be a first step to states taxing us by each mile we drive.”
U.N. Agenda 21, here we come.
Gotta be a way to disable! Leave it up to American ingenuity.
Can mandatory video cameras be far behind?
THey will just assume you are guilty if the box is tampered with.
If you have a fairly new car, made in the last 10 years or so, it likely already has an event recorder, which is all they really need to get info on how you were driving.
I have looking at various sites and have not been able to tell if these are passive or active devices. An on-star type device the tells you where you are or just a record of your speed and other driving that can not retrieved remotely. 85% of new cars have them now.
There will need to be a website that describes where it is and how to remove or destroy it quickly. After all,, when you are in the a wreck,,, you own the car for hours, or even days after the accident.
Anything you elect to remove before it gets towed is fair game.
We have a 2007 Volvo S80 which does not have a recorder and then our other car is a 1965 Ford Galaxie 500 XL and I’m pretty confident that there’s no recorder on that either.
This what the ones in GM cars now record. Other autos should be similar. I hope this is all the new will ones record.
EDRs record the following data:
Vehicle speed (five seconds before impact)
Engine speed (five seconds before impact)
Brake status (five seconds before impact)
Throttle position (five seconds before impact)
State of driver’s seat belt switch (On/Off)
Passenger’s airbag (On/Off)
IR Warning Lamp status (On/Off)
Time from vehicle impact to airbag deployment
Ignition cycle count at event time
Ignition cycle count at investigation
Maximum velocity for near-deployment event
Velocity vs. time for frontal airbag deployment event
Time from vehicle impact to time of maximum velocity
Time between near-deploy and deploy event (if within five seconds)
two plus two equals five
Will the House really support this? I can’t imagine why they would.
Creep of intrusion? Creep?? This amounts to a surrender of our rights. We are no longer a free people, we only think we are free.
It is a very small step to see that data reporting will be REQUIRED by the government. The boxes will grow in capability and we will be forced to download this data to a government collection point.
People with driving infractions will be court-ordered to do this.
Insurance companies (Progressive snapshot-thing) will get laws passed that will require people report to their insurer in order to continue to receive coverage.
Instead of the gas tax we will have to download our driving data on a regular basis to show how many miles we drove and then be taxed based upon miles driven.
Anyone with a restraining order will be required to submit data.
No, we are NOT free people. We are a managed people.