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GARY SHILLING: Here's Why The US Is About To Plunge Into A New Recession
TBI ^ | 4-20-2012 | Simone Fox

Posted on 04/20/2012 3:19:42 PM PDT by blam

GARY SHILLING: Here's Why The US Is About To Plunge Into A New Recession

Simone Foxman
April 20, 2012, 3:48 PM

Last week, Gary Shilling wrote a four-part series for Bloomberg View on why the U.S. economy is on the fast track to a brand new recession this year.

While he pointed to various data points and recounted a number of anecdotes to prove his point, Shilling's argument was simple: the consumer strength we saw earlier this year was fleeting and highly accommodative policy from the Federal Reserve and the possibility of more quantitative easing are the only things propping up markets right now.

In fact, the fundamentals of the economy lead him to believe "the U.S. economy is overdue for a recession."

Most importantly, Shilling writes that "consumer spending is the only major source of strength in the U.S. economy this year," but now all signs point to retrenchment:

While consumers should be "reduc[ing] debt and rebuild[ing] net worth, they have been doing the opposite lately."

However, continuing sluggishness in hiring lead Shilling to believe that this trend is unsustainable. "The U.S. has a lot of job openings, but having endured huge layoffs in recent years, employers are being very picky in new hiring," he writes. Further, the workforce isn't properly trained to fill many of the jobs available. And the job market is sticky: "homeowners whose mortgages exceed the value of their houses can’t easily sell their property if they take jobs in distant locations."

Despite a string of positive earnings reports this season and high corporate profit margins, Shilling argues that much of this is hot air. In fact, a closer look at industrial production and inventory paint a grim picture:

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anwr; collapse; economy; energy; garyshilling; keystonexl; mediawingofthednc; obamadeficit; obamarecession; opec; partisanmediashills; recession; recovery
Obama is toast!
(Jimmie Carter is happy)
1 posted on 04/20/2012 3:19:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

A new one? We’re not finished with the old one yet.


2 posted on 04/20/2012 3:21:01 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Never borrow batteries out of your smoke alarm!)
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To: blam

A “new” one?


3 posted on 04/20/2012 3:21:08 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I always wondered what it was like for my grandparents living through The Great Depression. After 3 years of Obama, I think that I have some idea.


4 posted on 04/20/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: blam
The U.S. economy is overdue for a recession. I believe that it entered the down phase of the long cycle in 2000, and the five to seven years that remain in the age of deleveraging are part of this period of weak economic growth and more frequent recessions.

Never has been a time before with below replacement demography.

5 posted on 04/20/2012 3:30:38 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: blam

We’ve been in a recession since 2008. Geez look at the unemployment figures.


6 posted on 04/20/2012 3:34:06 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: blam

If the 52% cut their spending to the bone, Hussein Zer0 would be blown away this Fall.


7 posted on 04/20/2012 3:37:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: delapaz

The minute it looked like the socialist Obama might win.. the economy tanked.

And it wont start getting better until it looks like he is going to be thrown out.


8 posted on 04/20/2012 3:39:09 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Tallguy
After 3 years of Obama, I think that I have some idea.

No you don't but you likely will.

Your children go on the hobo yet, probably not. My father was 12 when he hit the hobo trail.

When I was born in 1938 my father was working, cutting cross ties for the railroad, in river bottom where work began on site at sunup and ended at sundown, six mile walk both ways, the pay was 50 cents a day.

I hope and pray that we will not see those days again, but if we continue to deny our roots, then I guess the ending that was written 6000 years or so ago will turn out to be true after all.

9 posted on 04/20/2012 3:39:39 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: blam

Bill, if you ain’t got money you can’t spend it. Seems to be the case in this depression at least as far as I can see.

You can pump all the money you want into the system, Banks, but if the people have no jobs they can’t spend what they don’t have.


10 posted on 04/20/2012 3:41:00 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks blam.


11 posted on 04/20/2012 3:44:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SandyInSeattle; Las Vegas Ron

Yeah....I think they are afraid of the word “depression.”


12 posted on 04/20/2012 3:47:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: blam
We are not in a recession. We are in a technical depression and have been for a number of years. The Federal overspending has been covering this up, but you can only spend 10+ percent of the GDP in debt for so long before the money train ends and the real economy comes to bear.

As for Obama being toast - don't bet on it, especially if the GOP nominates one of the few people who could turn off enough conservative voters to give Obama a second term.

13 posted on 04/20/2012 3:51:02 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: itsahoot
"When I was born in 1938 my father was working, cutting cross ties for the railroad, in river bottom where work began on site at sunup and ended at sundown, six mile walk both ways, the pay was 50 cents a day. "

I was born in 1943 and my mother told me (dad wouldn't talk about it) how my dad did the same as your father except he was plowing behind a one horse plow from sun-up to sun-down.
My grandmother (mothers mother) would give a free breakfast to who-ever chopped her cooking wood for the day each morning.
She had to change that because they kept coming earlier and earlier to beat the next guy there for the meal and were waking everyone chopping wood at 3:00AM.
My dad did tell me how they had to hide the plow down the water well when the bank came to repossess it.

14 posted on 04/20/2012 4:14:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"As for Obama being toast - don't bet on it, especially if the GOP nominates one of the few people who could turn off enough conservative voters to give Obama a second term. "

Rubio as VP would draw most conservatives and most Hispanics to vote for the GOP.

Obama is toast!

15 posted on 04/20/2012 4:17:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Ok, so who failed to tell me we’d come out of the recession?


16 posted on 04/20/2012 4:24:56 PM PDT by bgill
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17 posted on 04/20/2012 5:23:42 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: blam

That would be the recession within the depression within the emerging stagflation.


18 posted on 04/20/2012 5:56:26 PM PDT by gotribe
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To: blam; itsahoot
"When I was born in 1938 my father was working, cutting cross ties for the railroad, in river bottom where work began on site at sunup and ended at sundown, six mile walk both ways, the pay was 50 cents a day. "

I was born in 1943 and my mother told me (dad wouldn't talk about it) how my dad did the same as your father except he was plowing behind a one horse plow from sun-up to sun-down.

My grandmother (mothers mother) would give a free breakfast to who-ever chopped her cooking wood for the day each morning.

She had to change that because they kept coming earlier and earlier to beat the next guy there for the meal and were waking everyone chopping wood at 3:00AM.

My dad did tell me how they had to hide the plow down the water well when the bank came to repossess it.

I can't even begin to imagine this..

19 posted on 04/20/2012 6:38:30 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: blam

Crisis By Design — Video Speaks for Itself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ccrjnHAA34&feature=related

Bankers above the Law. And corrupt as hell. About 10,000,000
heard the original broadcast.


20 posted on 04/20/2012 9:43:37 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
Gerald Celente talks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL38C7FA6EF71930AB&v=X5othnG9naE&feature=player_embedded

21 posted on 04/20/2012 9:56:23 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: CommieCutter
I can't even begin to imagine this..

Poor people don't know they are poor unless someone tells them they are. We learned to survive and I would trade those hard times for what we see coming.

22 posted on 04/20/2012 11:24:18 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: Tallguy

“I always wondered what it was like for my grandparents living through The Great Depression. After 3 years of Obama, I think that I have some idea.”

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Insane deficit spending is shielding us from what people in the 1930’s experienced.

It is also setting the stage for INEVITABLE conditions which will be MUCH worse.


23 posted on 04/20/2012 11:29:40 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
BIX WEIR: The Market is RIGGED 100%, Every Day . . . [Part 2]

A few people are waking up. Why aren't people like Greenspan and Bernanke in prison ___ ? Madoff was small potatoes.

24 posted on 04/21/2012 7:41:59 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

END TIMES Ping to the link just above via Ex-Texan


25 posted on 04/21/2012 7:47:30 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks, Quix.


26 posted on 04/21/2012 8:14:26 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 04/21/2012 9:47:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: blam

My very Christian (and wife of a preacher) told me many times that the only time she ever stole a thing in her life was a chicken from a neighbor because they were so hungry. She said God made that bird so dang tough, they could barely chew it.

If things were bad enough for my 20 year old grand mother to steal food... I don’t even want to know how bad it was.


28 posted on 04/22/2012 4:26:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Tallguy
"After 3 years of Obama, I think that I have some idea."

My Mom And Dad lived through it as children. They are constantly telling me how it still ain't as Bad as then but it sure feels like it could get that way fast. Its because of the way our town is losing businesses and of the Unemployment.

29 posted on 04/22/2012 4:32:21 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: EyeGuy
"Insane deficit spending is shielding us from what people in the 1930’s experienced."

Yup.

Borrowed from our children and grandchildren and will never be repaid.

30 posted on 04/22/2012 6:48:41 AM PDT by blam
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
Here Comes Unrestrained 'Pump and Dump' For Insiders

Courtesy of our corrupt Congress with both Dems and Repugs are standing in line for large corporate cash donations

31 posted on 04/23/2012 8:54:13 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
Video Speaks for Itself:

Whistleblowers Being Demonized in the US -- Obama is Afraid of the People Exposing His Lies

32 posted on 04/24/2012 7:52:28 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
Video speaks for itself:

Gerald Celente Blasts Banking Cartel and Predicts Dire New Economic Crises in 2012

Mr. Prediction waxed angry about "Economic Martial Law"

33 posted on 04/24/2012 9:00:14 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
Best Proof Yet That ex-Texan Told The Truth About the Housing Bubble, Inflated Real Estate Prices, Financial Fraud and Political Corruption

So too did stephenjohnbanker tell the truth 200%. All the naysayers were and are lying shills and most likely got nickels and dimes as payoffs to lie on FR.

LOL !

34 posted on 04/25/2012 4:46:34 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

SIGH.

It seems like the truth is often uninvited, unsought, unpreferred.


35 posted on 04/25/2012 8:36:44 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ex-Texan

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 04/25/2012 8:46:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker
Obama Makes Free Political Speech a Felony !

Please pass the word ! Outrageous !

37 posted on 04/25/2012 9:45:39 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ..

UNMITIGATED TREASONOUS HIDEOUSNESS FROM HELL.

. . . Now signed into law . . . a felony to politically protest where there are Secret Service members present.

American hasn’t just fallen in Alice’s rabbit hole.

She’s being energetically flushed to hell’s cesspool.


38 posted on 04/25/2012 10:19:09 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ex-Texan

You were point man for a lonely group back then. I remember the abuse heaped upon you by the cheerleaders of the housing bubble.


39 posted on 04/25/2012 10:28:10 PM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: ex-Texan

I remember vividly, ex-Texan, and I knew you were right.

I was disgusted by the vicious attacks against you.


40 posted on 04/25/2012 10:34:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Tallguy

Until you have turned in a pie tin for the .05 cent recycling $$ in order to catch the subway to and from work search day you have no idea what the great depression was like......not my exp. story told to me by my grandfather.....


41 posted on 04/25/2012 10:35:14 PM PDT by superfries
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To: blam

I think Rubio would be terrific but what do I know.....Romney is NOT a shoe in...the forces of evil are aligned to keep bamey in dictatorship.....I’m not a Romniac but I’ll vote for him as many times as they let me....


42 posted on 04/25/2012 10:40:40 PM PDT by cherry
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