Posted on 04/21/2012 6:10:36 AM PDT by kevcol
A couple of things are certain:
DeeDee and Trayvon did not talk for 400 minutes on 2/26 the day he was shot.
DeeDee did not go to the hospital on 3/2 and 3/3 and that was NOT the reason for not attending the viewing or memorial.
DeeDee and Trayvon were not Boyfriend/Girlfriend. They were close, platonic best friends.
DeeDee was not devastated, destroyed, or an emotional wreck. She was sad that her best friend was shot. She notified others, including her cousin who is also a prolific tweeter, but did not know immediately who Trayvon was.
DeeDee did not miss school.
DeeDee did not contact anyone because there was no reason to.
Did DeeDee actually hear anything that night? Who knows. However, the mere fact that Benjamin Crump can be proven to have falsely constructed more than 80% of his press conference in order to plant false misleading misinformation in the media sure brings the entire narrative into question.
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The reason the prosecutor Angela Corey didn’t go to the Grand Jury was because she would have either had to introduce DeeDee’s testimony, or avoid it completely. If she included the lies and the manipulations DeeDee would have been forced to bear witness at trial and O’Mara would be able to pull the lies out. That is why no Grand Jury was used. They wanted the media evidence of “DeeDee” to exist, but not the legal evidence,
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
This whole case is further diminishing my limited faith in the American system of justice. Whatever the outcome for Zimmerman, the net result of the case will be a lot more cynicism on the part of the public to how the judicial system operates. Truth and falsehood, guilt or innocence, don't matter. It's all about advancing your career as a lawyer or a prosecutor.
“Somebody needs to go to jail and it isn’t Zimmerman.”
The operative instructions are:
What Is Democracy
An African American’s son asks his dad, “Dad, what’s Democracy?”
“Well, son, that’s when whites work and we get all the benefits from it!”
“But dad, aren’t the white people pissed off about it?”
“Sure they are, but that’s called ‘racism’”
If that is accurate, then the police did have Trayvon’s phone but were unable to unlock it to see what was on the phone. They put in a subpoena for the phone records. If that part of the article (confusing with all those updates) was from the March 20 update, then they were still waiting for the phone records 18 days after the 911 call was made from Trayvon’s phone on March 2. Somebody had suggested that the police had called 911 so they could then track what the phone number for the cellphone was. Which is probably what happened, since they’d need the phone number to be able to subpoena the records.
Good point. That makes sense. I wonder why he wanted to find out the pass code. I wonder if the police had asked him for it? If he was able to get the record of who the calls were to and from there wouldn’t be much use for having the pass code, would there?
Some one watches to many CSI episodes. I can construct a dozen ways that the angle would be up and the victim could be flat of his back. The best you can say about it is it could be such and such. If they then have someone do a computer animation then that will become fact to the jury.
That makes sense for the 911 call on 3/02, but see also post #126 for additional calls on TM’s records.
You can pause the abc video for a better view.
But with all the media talk about DeeDee being Trayvon’s girlfriend, this other girl’s reference to “Trayvon’s girlfriend” must be a reference to “DeeDee” - the person who was supposedly on the phone with Trayvon when the confrontation began. So this girl is saying she’s not that person.
Unless this girl knows who “DeeDee” is and that she was not Trayvon’s girlfriend and was sympathizing with somebody who really was TM’s girlfriend.
Did TM tweet about somebody he called his GF?
I’m with you on the thug culture, when I think of black culture I want to remember Nipsy Russell, Flip Wilson, Sam Cooke, Chuck Berry, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Clyde McPhatter, Jackie Wilson, The Ink Spots, barbecued ribs, fried catfish, the sound of gospel music on a moonlit night rolling over the hills from the little church a mile from our house when I was a boy and a host of other wonderful things, I don’t want it to mean violence. I worked in the hot sun with black people when I was growing up back in the fifties, we didn’t hate each other! We may not have had a perfect relationship but we didn’t hate each other. We didn’t fear black people and they didn’t fear us. We often helped each other but we did NOT fear each other. My father was the sort that Eric Holder would call a racist but I never knew him to do anything unkind to a black person, in fact I think that in reality he would help a black person at least as quickly as he would help a white person. Yes, he felt that as a white man he was superior but never, not once did he ever do anything unkind to anyone because of race, at least not that I ever learned of. I often heard him defend black people to my brothers and me and he sometimes talked of how the farmers of his youth (born in 1913) took advantage of black people.
This case totally blows away any credibility of the media and of the judicial system.
Interesting how the corruption of the media and judiciary in this politicized criminal case very much matches the corruption out of both of those in the politicized case of various crimes committed to cover Obama’s ineligibility. Those who want us to write off the eligibility issue because the media, government, and judicial system can be trusted.... now have to explain the garbage from the Trayvon shooting, the Fast & Furious death of Brian Terry, etc. Some of us have been saying for a while that the government, media, law enforcement, and judiciary are all lawless. At this rate, anybody with their eyes open should be realizing how very true that is.
Sad. Very, very sad.
Is there a link to the video of that?
Were there other calls from that phone after Trayvon was dead?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017
01:15
Thanks.
Incoming calls at 12:45 and 12:47pm, right after the outgoing call to 911 on March 2. Maybe the police called 911 to find the phone number and then called the number they found out, thinking they might be able to answer it and then be able to access previous calls?
In that report the ABC reporter was trying to make hay out of the dispatcher sending the narcotics unit out instead of the homicide unit. Did they send out a different group after they knew there had been shots? Because the dispatcher told GZ there were officers on the way, and at that point the proper people would be narcotics since GZ had said he thought TM might be on drugs.
Re: the partially open slide ...
There were gunshot residue patterns and cuts on Trayvon’s hands, which seems to indicate a struggle for the gun. If Trayvon’s hand interfered with the slide mechanism, that could explain why another round was not chambered.
Can you source there were cuts on TM hands?
If Trayvon had succeeded in getting control of the gun and had shot Zimmerman, nobody outside the immediate area would have heard about the story. What are the chances that Trayvon would have expressed sorrow to Zimmerman's parents for their son's death? He might have tried to claim self-defense but it would have been difficult since it was Zimmerman's gun and Zimmerman had called the police dispatcher.
Update #9 linked within the article. Search for “residue.”
Thanks for sharing this information. This is very interesting.
That photo is not of Trayvon Martin.
It’s not sourced in the article. As far as I am aware the ME report is sealed.
What completely disgusts me about Romney and other ilk like him is that they are doing what is good for them and their money backers, not the country.
They see AND KNOW that they will divide the country and potentially lose the election...
AHEM JOHN MCCAIN...
but will still press forward. And screw your fat ugly daughter, Mccain. I hope she brings you a lifetime of disgust and heartache. You deserve that sickening greasy fat tittied sloth. The only thing about you that can possibly bring me joy is seeing your wife in an embrace with another man and wondering... where were you 9 months before your daughter was conceived.
Think there was a typo in that.
400 minutes on the phone with one person?
That’s over 6 and 1/2 hours!
You would have totally drained the battery.
40 minutes I could believe.
How did the dad get Trayvon’s cell phone to work with and figure out the password?
It was evidence and while it was decided that Zimmerman would not be charged would the police have let the cell phone out of chain of custody that quickly?
Why is so much evidence being publicized?
Tainted evidence?
Nullification?
Stoopit...
BLACK CULTURE does not refer to the ‘negro race’. It refers to the same infectious disease that LA RAZA and the WHITE ARYANS have. And that is simply, Criminality hiding behind ‘race’. They are the backdoors that the Commie/Socialist/Muslim/New World Order crowd use to infiltrate and assimilate the American Nation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What you describe is racially based nationalism, which each version couples with some idea of wealth reidtribution via a socialist approach.They are nationalist socialist.The Obama movement itself is nationalist socialist, yes that right , what history calls “fascist.”
And the GOP , for example, can’t even define Obama and these little rascist based fascist movements here in the USA, for what they really are.That is the greater shame, and one which will result in the deaths of thousands of Americans before these fascists run their course.
Good Read:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html
Okay, now I get why Angela Corey was so damned happy at the news conference.
She knows Zimmerman isn’t guilty but wants to placate the mobs and those within who are given to meting out justice their way.
An arrest puts them in position, finding enough to proceed through the immunity phase puts them in play.
Once that takes place then they can step up to the plate with their best hitter and start swinging looking to bring in all the runners with a home run.
Got it.
Maybe Trayvon was on the phone for 6 hours with this girl.
She’s cute.
What is it about her that she has to yell all the time? Of course, lots of folks on FOX yell a lot.
I don’t like Geraldo but when her and him are on together lots of time I see him roll his eyes.
Dang! Can’t believe I actually read the whole thing.
Zimm walks and I hope before “immunity” attaches.
If Zimmerman is convicted, I'm going to take the attitude of the heroes in Athens, Tennessee: "There is no law in McMinn County."
The "law" went over the line in the bond hearing yesterday:
The officer on the stand made reference to the “alleged” broken nose. Zimmerman’s attorney offered him the hospital records but than turned to the prosecution table and said it was better that they had them.
If the State screws over George, they can screw over the rest of us peasants, anytime they want to.
Yes, it is that bad and corrupt, with various federal laws written so intentionally vague that virtually anyone could be convicted of anything.
Ah, yes - the Volksgerichtshof, with Eric "Roland Freisler" Holder presiding...
What? Who is it then and why is in the article? chris37 says in his post 50 here that a mark under his right is the key.
placemarker
There are many reasons firearms and ammo sales have been through the roof for the last few years. You have identified one of them.
People are tired of this sort of nonsense.
Haven’t you heard, there is an election coming in November.
Yes, it is him.
Look at these pictures. Ignore the photoshopped whitewashed one of him in the hoodie middle bottom.
In the three other photos, including the one of him as a child, you can notice a distinct scar on his right cheek under his right eye.
That same exact mark is also visible in the grainy photo of him that jiggyboy posted.
It's him.
I remember researching this photo when it was first posted on Freerepublic. I believe that the photo was posted to facebook in 2007 by a different Trayvon.
Actually, when mixed with the Spanish blood they are white. Those that are non-Spanish are not white, but those are also extremely rare.
“The rich in Mexico are European descendants usually and look down on the Indians.”
Yep, just like their Presidentes.
OK, you know darn well you can’t leave us hanging with a tidbit of a story like that. You have to give us at least a basic summary of the whole thing.
Judge Jeanine is rather horrible in general.
CNN recently ran a piece about her role in convicting a white store owner who shot a crazy black man who was assaulting the shopkeeper’s father with a baseball bat.
Yes. And the black-based nationalism is the Sub-Saharan Supremacy that uses whatever “god” is handy - Black Panthers uses Allah, Yahweh ben Yahweh uses Yahweh - is what the Chicago Annenberg Challenge spent its “charity” money training inner-city Chicago teachers in. Teaching black inner-city kids that America has raped them and that the real supreme race is African.
The decisions about what the Chicago Annenberg Challenge would do with the money to “improve schools” in Chicago was made by Bill Ayers and Barack Hussein Obama II.
IOW, the black supremacy of the Black Panthers, Yahweh ben Yahweh, Jeremiah Wright, etc is exactly what Obama forced onto public school teachers in Chicago. When the Black Panthers or YbY find enough people to do their looting and killing (such as the kids who beat the 50-year-old guy with a hammer after a Trayvon rally), the bloodguilt falls directly on Obama. It’s not even about who Obama introduced for a speech or who his Columbia professors were. It is a direct link. Obama specifically HIRED instructors to teach this crap to inner city black youths.
See http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/225971/wright-101/stanley-kurtz
Hmmm, the VERY same Angela Corey who over-charged and withheld evidence in the George Zimmerman case. Sure looks like she is an anti-2nd Amendment zealot to me!
“State Attorney Angela Corey, however, said the jury heard the whole story and the public will, too, at the sentencing. Then, she said, she will be willing to shed more light on a matter she said she has been “very involved with from the beginning.””
Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-04-21/story/naacp-weighs-what-they-say-stand-your-ground-case-against-jacksonville-0#ixzz1shomi91q
JC
Lest we forget, Romney (assault Weapon Ban in Mass) is no safe harbor for gun owners, either. If he gets elected, we need to really keep after Congress so they don't knuckle under to the Communists.
This has usually been the case. However, under the present circumstances and the pass the NBP have gotten over voter intimidation and now the bounty offered for Zimmerman, I would not rely on the old paradigm holding.
Consider that one of the 'old' Black Panthers (Formerly H. 'Rap" Brown) had the number two fellow at AlQaida (Anwar Alaqui) speak at a rally for 'Justice for Imam Jamil al-Jamin (Rap Brown's new, improved, islamic moniker)' at UC Irvine on Sept 9, 2001 (5:30 PM at the Bren Events Center).
There are connections, however tenuous, between the Black Panthers and AlQaida.
I am of the belief that not all the siphoned money from Community Agencies and other sources (possibly billions of dollars) has gone to 'community development', and that quite possibly not all of the run on firearms and ammunition has been from palefaced Conservatives making purchases.
This is no call for aggression, merely awareness, preparedness, and being ready to defend whatever you have that needs to be defended, wherever it may be.
Complacency is not an action plan if things get nasty.
No, it’s not.
>you can’t leave us hanging with a tidbit of a story like that.
I got a phone call from an enraged ex-husband whom I had never seen or spoken with saying “a lot of people are going
to die tonight” and I am a “dead MFer”. I called the family in danger and got them to gather next door and arm themselves.
I then call 911 and filled them in on the details.
The ex-husband left my FIL home after being turned away at shotgun point. it was assumed he was headed the 15 miles
to my apartment in town and 911 was going to intercept. I strapped on my Redhawk and turned off all the lights except the porch light.
He pulls up in the side yard with his truck lights out and walks toward my end of the building. I fling the storm door
open and he determines it is me and pulls out his pistol. I jump back inside while the door closes and he fires head
height at both sides of the door while I put two rounds into center mass.
The details will have to wait but it involved an over zealous DA, Magistrate and Investigator. After a week in
jail, Murder 2 and all charges were dropped. All of the three officials are out of their jobs now.
Sorry, the mark under the eye is there.
That will happen, in a way, because, ultimately, McCain and his ilk are going to be shocked to be going down the drain while others who are happy and cool bearing their cross gracefully everyday - remaining and free - will wonder: “what is all that shrieking noise all about?”, only to be told “why, it’s the bell and shoffar declaring a sabbath”.
Sorry. That’s another Trayvon.
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