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John McCain, the 2008 Election, and Civil Unrest
PJ Media ^ | 4-21-2012 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 04/21/2012 12:56:44 PM PDT by smoothsailing

April 21, 2012

John McCain, the 2008 Election, and Civil Unrest

J. Christian Adams

There is an interesting story about the 2008 election coming out of Wikileaks. Memos from Stratfor released by Wikileaks say that widespread voter fraud occurred in Ohio and that “black Dems were caught stuffing the ballot boxes in Philly.” The McCain campaign knew about the fraud but feared taking action because of the “possibility of domestic violence” if they challenged the results in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

The memos say campaign staff urged candidate John McCain to act in court:

“Staff felt they could get a federal injunction to stop the process.”

One of the Wikileaked memos says: “Sen. McCain chose not to fight.” The reason?

The memo states:

“McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of domestic violence.”

With the blessings of hindsight, we see that fear of mob violence in our country is no longer a hypothetical in the mind of a presidential candidate. The call by the New Black Panther Party in Sanford, Florida, to seize (or kill) a private citizen is no longer the stuff of a senator’s imagination.

Recall Philadelphia was where the entire New Black Panther Party controversy started on election night. Poll watcher Bartle Bull has opined that one purpose of the presence of the New Black Panthers was to intimidate poll watchers, the exact people trained to detect and memorialize polling place misbehavior. That’s another reason why the dismissal of the lawsuit by the Holder Justice Department, even before discovery took place to investigate the events in Philadelphia, was such a blow to the rule of law.

Whether or not ballot boxes were stuffed by “black Dems” in Philadelphia is probably something we will never know. What we do know is this: First, that people in the McCain campaign thought they had evidence of election tampering that cost McCain the election. Second, that McCain thought it best for the country to do nothing about it, in part because of fears of mob violence.

America is coasting along a slippery surface, and small concessions to the mob can resonate in ways we can’t predict. In seven months, we have a chance to reverse the mistakes of 2008, even if only to stand up to the mob this time.

Which raises the problem of Philadelphia. Obviously something is going very wrong in City of Brotherly Love. Elections there are a big giant spigot for the Left to keep the state blue. GOP poll watchers are thrown out of precincts, New Black Panthers stalk the polls, and, worst of all, not enough poll watchers are available to cover all the precincts. It’s time that changed. That’s why True the Vote is holding a summit April 27-28 in Houston, to mobilize and train a poll-watching army to deploy across the nation in November.

If you are sitting on the couch on Election Day watching it on TV, if you are at work instead of not using available leave, if you aren’t inside the polls on Election Day to prevent the mess of 2008 from repeating, you aren’t doing enough. If not 2012, when?


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilunrest; cw2; electionfraud; johnmccain; mccain; nbpp; newblackpantherparty; newblackpanthers; philadelphia; truethevote; voterfraud

1 posted on 04/21/2012 12:56:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Sarah Palin would have been unafraid. She would have said game on.


2 posted on 04/21/2012 1:02:07 PM PDT by clashfan (know your rights)
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To: smoothsailing

“Sen. McCain chose not to fight.”

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Did he cut a deal with Bambi?


3 posted on 04/21/2012 1:08:52 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

John McCain was a whimp from the git go. He kept telling the American people that Obama was a good man, a man loyal to America, and a middle roader. All this, while Sean Hannity was exposing Obama’s idol, icon and full time mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a Black Racist and hater of America!!! McCain was weak, still is!!!


4 posted on 04/21/2012 1:16:51 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: clashfan
Sarah Palin would have been unafraid. She would have said game on.

Of course not.

Sarah Palin's not as interested in holding office as either her admirers or her detractors assume.

Really, if she were your Sarah, she'd be the nominee by now -- or at least a candidate -- but she isn't, so she's not.

5 posted on 04/21/2012 1:22:14 PM PDT by x
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

In 08 we had two choices:

A crap or a turd sandwich.


6 posted on 04/21/2012 1:23:03 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I will go to my grave believing McCain was a shill for “The Divine One!”


7 posted on 04/21/2012 1:23:32 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
"A successful challenge of Obama's wins in Pennsylvania and Ohio would not have overturned his victory but would have tarnished the subsequent celebratory atmosphere."

So, of course John "Beltway" McCain would never raise an issue to protect our constitutional right to a free and fair election!

8 posted on 04/21/2012 1:25:57 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: smoothsailing
We have allowed the biomass of "civil unrest" to accumulate for far too long.

Just as controlled burns every couple of years would prevent the California wildfire conflagrations that keep occurring, letting Eric Holder's people burn their own neighborhoods to the ground every couple of years would prevent the huge, national riots we are in store for.

Plus, it would provide an opportunity for some target practice.

9 posted on 04/21/2012 1:32:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: smoothsailing
The McCain campaign knew about the fraud but feared taking action because of the “possibility of domestic violence”

So let's not have an election at all because of the "possibility of domestic violence." I'd rather our system of government prevail, even at the cost of 50,000 dead.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 04/21/2012 1:32:42 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Bump #7. McCain is a brainwashed Manchurian shill. IMHO. That time in the Hilton was not wasted.


11 posted on 04/21/2012 1:35:41 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Baynative

Would those two states have made a difference ? Pathetic and I agree there would have been violence if the election was overturned.
I cannot understand why there are not at least 5 people from several different parties making sure there is no fraud and any fraud should be a felony and 20 years in prison if convicted. America deserves fair elections and voters should have IDs to prove they are who they say they are


12 posted on 04/21/2012 1:37:14 PM PDT by Pedrobud
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To: 353FMG
Did he cut a deal with Bambi?

I doubt it. McCain was just a weak old man who was lead around by others.

Palin: McCain Campaign Managers Wouldn't Let Us Investigate Obama's Past

13 posted on 04/21/2012 1:39:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Don Corleone

That is why I cut him slack at the personal level, and utterly distrust him at the public level. Stockholm Syndrome by design and ‘adjustment’. I very much doubt I would have withstood it any better, most likely not as well. Nevertheless, the fact is that John McCain the military officer died in Vietnam. We got back a kind of revenant loose cannon and time bomb.


14 posted on 04/21/2012 1:41:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: smoothsailing

I’d like to get a look at the presumed luxury suite he lived in while the other POWs suffered in squalor. There is NO WAY that the son of the CINCPAC was treated the same way as an average downed pilot. That’s not how military leaders or politicians act towards one another. The whole thing stinks like last year’s fish.


15 posted on 04/21/2012 1:47:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: smoothsailing

365 vs. 173 — OH and PA would not have been sufficient to change the final result.


16 posted on 04/21/2012 1:48:58 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: x
Really, if she were your Sarah, she'd be the nominee by now -- or at least a candidate -- but she isn't, so she's not.

Like, um, wow. "She would have said game on" is certainly correct. Don't know what all that other snark is about.

17 posted on 04/21/2012 1:52:11 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Pedrobud
"America deserves fair elections..."

There are multiple ways that fair and valid elections could be guaranteed. The simple truth is that whoever is calling the shots in the beltway has a deep seated fear of the electorate.

Voter registration and elections fraud are so well established in the democrat party that they openly joke about it. In 2004 precincts in Philadelphia had MORE than 100% turnout. Yet, no complaints or moves to invalidate the outcome were made. (just one example)

18 posted on 04/21/2012 2:06:04 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: ml/nj

Spot on brother. Better that there be bloodshed in my era so that my children can live free and at peace.
These black leaders and liberal whites are nothing more than Terrorists who use the threat of violence to achieve their goals.
The only way to deal with terrorists is with overwhelming violence.
McCain is a limp wristed coward.


19 posted on 04/21/2012 2:08:45 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: smoothsailing

Probably led around by Obamanoids in disguise and that stupid old man did not know the difference.


20 posted on 04/21/2012 2:10:34 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: smoothsailing

Among the many other problems with McCain, I seriously believe is IQ is barely into the low end of the functional range.

He’s borderline mentally retarded.


21 posted on 04/21/2012 2:33:59 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care much for him as a politician, but I’ve never doubted that McCain went through pure hell as a POW...

http://www.valorstudios.com/McCain/souder.htm


22 posted on 04/21/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: sefarkas

>> OH and PA would not have been sufficient to change the final result. <<

Details, details. We don’t need no stinkin’ details,and we don’t need no stinkin’ logic. The purpose of the thread is to bash McCain, pure and simple. Don’t spoil our fun!


23 posted on 04/21/2012 2:50:04 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Two thoughts:

Re; McCain - Take your average American male, put him in the U.S. Senate for 25 years, and he will turn out like a Trent Lott.

“Holder’s people” at work in Philly.


24 posted on 04/21/2012 2:54:08 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s another one...

http://www.valorstudios.com/McCain/lead.htm

luxury suite?


25 posted on 04/21/2012 2:57:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Then explain his actions since then.


26 posted on 04/21/2012 3:03:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: smoothsailing

McCain is a coward.


27 posted on 04/21/2012 3:05:46 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To what end? He’s nuts as far as I can tell.


28 posted on 04/21/2012 3:20:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

The quickest and simplest way to slash voter fraud is to announce that all voter registration lists are hereby NULL and VOID.

All interested voters would be required to re-register at their local town hall or other government office, with photo ID, prior to November 1. As for absentee voting, military personnel would be required to register through their units, while invalids would require a visit from a local voter registration official. However, between now and November, everybody who lives at home could be visited.

Poll watchers would be expected to stay until the very end of the voting day, to ensure that “missing” voters don’t suddenly “appear” to cast their hundreds of ballots in the closing minutes of Election Day.


29 posted on 04/21/2012 5:28:26 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert Heinlein)
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To: smoothsailing

Precisely why the Dems choose Zero to be the candidate. Not so much the Dem voters as the Dem power brokers. Hillary was obviously pressured in a serious way to not attack Obama’s glaring weaknesses. IMO she probably knew somewhere along the way that he was not even eligible.

In any case, an incompetent Marxist was on the ticket because they bet (successfully) that the Republicans had not the moral fiber to challenge an ineligible half black man and risk riots from the 15% of the population that is ignorant, greedy and racist.

Sorry to be so blunt, but if it walks like a duck and quacks, it isn’t a cow.


30 posted on 04/21/2012 5:30:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: smoothsailing

Maybe McCain was worried about rioting, maybe he didn’t want to sound like a “sour grapes” sore loser or maybe he wanted to look graceful after a hideous defeat.

The bottom line is that McCain SHOULD have howled about the cheating, long and loud, to protect FUTURE candidates against suffering the same fate.


31 posted on 04/21/2012 6:18:30 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert Heinlein)
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To: smoothsailing

McCain suffered serious brain damage in the Hanoi Hilton. He should have been given a medical discharge and told to go retire in the desert.


32 posted on 04/21/2012 9:38:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Hillary was obviously pressured in a serious way to not attack Obama’s glaring weaknesses. IMO she probably knew somewhere along the way that he was not even eligible.

She did. She and Slick were the movers behind the original lawsuit, brought by her Philly campaign manager (a former statewide officeholder), Phil Berg, over Obama's eligibility and ballot bona fides. They ran into the "you don't have standing" b.s. -- the courts deciding that they just were not going to allow anyone to bring such a suit (there's another one sub judice in Jersey right now, seeking to challenge Obozo's listing on the 2012 ballot).

33 posted on 04/22/2012 1:23:09 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: smoothsailing
“McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of domestic violence.”

This is nothing to fear

allowing the rule of law to be subverted by gang mentality is detrimental to our country

Just shows again that Juan lacked the judgement to be a true leader of men

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34 posted on 04/22/2012 4:12:57 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Baynative

I agree. It is very sad and the other parties have got to grow a pair and stand up to do what is right.
I personally and disgusted with both political parties. All these people care about is power


35 posted on 04/22/2012 3:44:21 PM PDT by Pedrobud
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