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To: wintertime
Personally, I consider government owned and run socialist-entitlement schooling to be evil.

Then you are a hypocrite because you have utilized those socialist entitlements when it served your purposes.

Are all government socialist-entitlement K-12 schools godless in their worldview? Do students who sit in godless classrooms learn to think and reason godlessly? If they are to cooperate in the classroom how could it be otherwise?

Worthless question because you are expecting a specific answer to the 1st two and if it is not your desired response, the 3rd question is a moot point. Don't bother.

You are so well versed in Alinsky tactics that you yourself are unable to see how you are as guilty, if not more so, of that which you decry in others.

You have long ago invalidated your own rhetoric, but are so entrenched in it you can not see the forest for the trees.

Your strawmen no longer work with me. neither do your bullying tactics. And that is exactly what you are when it comes to the topic of public schools - a bully. Actually I should say a wannabe bully, because you are totally incapable of bullying me, no matter how hard you try. I won't fall for your -gotcha- mentality ever again.

When you can speak rationally, I will consider you have something productive to say, but as long as you stick with Alinsky rules, nothing you say is of importance.

31 posted on 04/21/2012 6:31:15 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
“Then you are a hypocrite .....”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My oldest child is 42. The youngest is in their late twenties. In the past 2 to 4 DECADES have** you** ever **changed your mind*** about an issue? Would changing **your** mind about an issue make **you** a hypocrite? ( Just wondering)

By the way, are Freepers who collect social security hypocrites because many advocate for privatization of retirement? Are those Freepers who believe federal lands should be returned to the states because they visit a national park or ( gasp!) even go camping in one? Do those Freepers who believe in the flat tax or fair tax hypocrites for paying their taxes? If they drive a car are they hypocrites for preaching an end to gasoline taxes? Freepers who advocate closing government schools and have used the government schools ( some, like me, can count the time in **days**) are they hypocrites because they may have used the schools for convenience at some time in their child's life?

The questions I have asked do have answers. Mostly I post them for other Freepers to ponder since I don't recall you ever having directly addressed any of these points. Instead, the Alinsky distraction of calling me a hypocrite is used.

By the way, I never report personal insults to the moderators. Personal insults say sooooo much more about those flinging them that they do about those against whom they are directed. I prefer for these personal insults to stand so that fellow freepers can read them.

Here are the questions again should you have a change of heart and be willing to consider them:

Are all government socialist-entitlement K-12 schools godless in their worldview? Do students who sit in godless classrooms learn to think and reason godlessly? If they are to cooperate in the classroom how could it be otherwise?

Are taxpayers forced to subsidized the establishment of atheistic godless secular humanism preached by the government socialist-entitlement K-12 schools? How can this be compatible with the First Amendment?

Are all children whose parents can not ransom them from the godless government socialist-entitlement schools forced to attend? What happens if they or their parents refuse to attend these godless schools?

Are all government owned and run K-12 schools a socialist-entitlement?

Merely by attending do children risk learning that the voting mob that gives them tuition-free schools can be persuaded to give them **lots** of free stuff?

Once in the godless government K-12 schools is every First Amendment Right trashed? ( Speech, press, free assembly, and expression of religion) Does this in any way resemble the way prisoners are treated?

Do government owned and run K-12 schools generally look like minimum security prisons? Is there a risk that the students ( who are treated like prisoners by government functionaries) will learn to be comfortable prisoners of the state?

( Not proof read!_)

38 posted on 04/21/2012 6:59:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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