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Russian Is Massing Troops On Iran's North Border And Waiting for Western Attack
Business Insider ^ | April 09, 2012 | F. Michael Maloof

Posted on 04/21/2012 7:14:06 PM PDT by Thorliveshere

Edited on 04/22/2012 7:22:20 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON The Russian military anticipates that an attack will occur on Iran by the summer and has developed an action plan to move Russian troops through neighboring Georgia to stage in Armenia, which borders on the Islamic republic, according to informed Russian sources.


(Excerpt) Read more at articles.businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: armageddon; armenia; azerbaijan; belarus; georgia; iran; israel; kazakhstan; kurdistan; kyrgyzstan; moldova; russia; russiairan; russiantroops; tajikistan; turkey; turkmenistan; ukraine; uzbekistan

1 posted on 04/21/2012 7:14:15 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Thorliveshere

Obama is closer to the Russians than the American
people ... whom he despises.


2 posted on 04/21/2012 7:15:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Thorliveshere

I think sh*t is about to go down hardcore all over.


3 posted on 04/21/2012 7:16:09 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Let me know when we get to Ezekiel 38.

Oh, never mind. It will be obvious.


4 posted on 04/21/2012 7:21:00 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Thorliveshere

The Russians suck. Excuse my pedantic vocabulary but I had to work with some once, and they all sucked like no one else ever had.


5 posted on 04/21/2012 7:22:08 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Diogenesis

“Obama is closer to the Russians than the American
people ... whom he despises.”

Yup. That’s why he gave both his daughters Russian names........


6 posted on 04/21/2012 7:25:26 PM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Thorliveshere
...has developed an action plan to move Russian troops through neighboring Georgia to stage in Armenia,...

Yeah, the Georgians and Armenians are going to love that.
7 posted on 04/21/2012 7:29:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Thorliveshere

Obama has no intention of helping Israel and the Russians know it. That may embolden them to fully enter into an Israel-Iran conflict on the Iranian side with troops, if needed, and air and naval assets. Could get very nasty. FUBO.


8 posted on 04/21/2012 7:31:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Diogenesis
I think BusinessInsider.com is smoking some strong stuff. Russia does not need to "go through Georgia" (how in the world?) and stage in Armenia. Russia has full access to Caspian Sea and can deliver as many troops and as much armor as it needs via water.

Not only that, Armenia has a pretty short border with Iran, and it's basically a road into nowhere. There is nothing there but mountains. No cities, no roads.

On the other end, if you take the Caspian route then you have access to hundreds of miles of coastal areas that lead directly into central areas of Iran. Tehran is about 60 miles from the coast and is connected to it with at least three freeways (two-lane ones, though, nothing to write home about.) But at least there are roads. If you are coming from Armenia you have to build your own roads as you go.

On top of all that, the Caspian route allows unobstructed air access into Iran, with Russian airports 300 miles away over water and with Turkmenistan's airports as close as you want (Turkmenistan has border with Iran.)

Of course generals make plans. They make plans for everything, what else can they do in peace time? But it's highly unlikely that Russia will need to send troops into Iran. Russia can far more profitably send diplomats everywhere except Iran.

9 posted on 04/21/2012 7:39:43 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Thorliveshere

Bye bye Georgia. You know dang well the world won’t do a thing about it. The world barely noticed last time the Russians invaded a few years back.


10 posted on 04/21/2012 7:45:28 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Thorliveshere

Actually they are just “poised” to move in and provide “social, economic and political stability” for say the next 50 or so years. All in return for just a wee bit of oil and warm water ports....


11 posted on 04/21/2012 7:48:05 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: Greysard

You misunderstood.

Georgia is the country they will invade. They tried it several years back too.

An Iran-Israel conflict will simply be a diversion. The world won’t give a crap that Russia will swallow up a friendly (to us) sovereign country because they all be watching the Israeli-Iranian conflict.


12 posted on 04/21/2012 7:48:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Army Air Corps

The Georgians will hate it more than the Armenians. But you’re right, both will hate it.


13 posted on 04/21/2012 8:02:16 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Thorliveshere

I can’t believe it hasn’t happened already. I mean, what was Bush II thinking? Why did he let Iran go on as long as it has? Obama a sorta get because he’s a leftist, but Dubya? I don’t get it. Amazed we didn’t strike in 2005.


14 posted on 04/21/2012 8:03:59 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

It was difficult enough to make the case for invading Iraq, imagine getting support for an invasion of Iran even shortly after 11 September 2001.


15 posted on 04/21/2012 8:12:10 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: keats5

Im betting sometime this summer. The way things are going, we may see Isaiah 17:1 as well

Maranatha!


16 posted on 04/21/2012 8:18:10 PM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Thorliveshere

Maybe Russia is using Iran as an excuse to take over Georgia when Iran is attacked.


17 posted on 04/21/2012 8:21:58 PM PDT by Ecliptic
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To: Thorliveshere

The Russkies must have good intelligence from Tel Aviv, as Tel Aviv has from Moscow. Lotsa Rusian Jews in Israel, lotsa Jews in Mother Russia.


18 posted on 04/21/2012 8:24:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Greysard

“if you take the Caspian route...”

The big problem is the Russians have all of ONE frigate in the Caspian Sea. You really can’t mount much of an amphibious operation with a single, 20-year old patrol ship.


19 posted on 04/21/2012 8:27:05 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: LibWhacker

In the event the events come down as you suggest, I firmly suspect our Military leaders will assume the authority to step up to aid Isreal, regardless of what nobama may order otherwise. I mean what the hell could he do other than pretend it was his idea.


20 posted on 04/21/2012 8:31:21 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Thorliveshere

Putin’s got the goods on Obama for sure, must be some heavy skeleton’s in Barkys closet. That and the fact Russkies hate blacks. Yup, they gave him the ‘’space’’ he asked for and now Putin’s gonna show Barky how the international game is played. How will China react?


21 posted on 04/21/2012 8:34:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ecliptic

Once again, the confluence of Georgia, Armenia and Iran, caught in the grip of Russia. This happened before.

“Ali and Nino”
http://www.amazon.com/Ali-Nino-A-Love-Story/dp/0385720408

A novel. Reads in a snap. Sheherazad meets TE Lawrence in the middle of the build up of the Light Brigade.


22 posted on 04/21/2012 8:36:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Thorliveshere

Russia has wanted to control Iran for several hundred years.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 8:48:36 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: jmacusa

Putin’s got the goods on Obama for sure, must be some heavy skeleton’s in Barkys closet.


Putin detests 0bama for many reasons. They’re using him but they can’t stand him.


24 posted on 04/21/2012 8:51:43 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: risen_feenix; GeronL
The big problem is the Russians have all of ONE frigate in the Caspian Sea.

As GeronL indicated, I should have read the page 2 of the original article. The point is moot since the article does not claim that Russia is going to invade Iran.

But with regard to the limited number of warships, they aren't very much needed there. Caspian Sea is a large, often shallow lake, and it is slowly drying up. On the other hand, other countries don't have much there either, for same reasons.

Troops could be delivered on commercial ships (which are available) and sufficiently protected with air power or smaller armed boats. Don't underestimate the bandwidth of a few barges loaded with stuff.

But, as I said, the article writer believes that Putin wants to fight Georgia. Perhaps geopolitically he might want to do that, and nobody is going to ask inconvenient questions in the aftermath of attack on Iran. Israel will be probably hit by Iranian missiles, maybe to the point that this becomes a question of survival of Israel. With the obvious response by Israel.

On the other hand, Saakashvili is not a threat, currently, to Russia or other neighboring countries. He is just an annoyance. His army took losses in the previous encounter and haven't recovered yet. Georgian opposition is striving to kick Saakashvili out. Neighbors of Georgia (all of them!) hate Georgia. He has lots of problems to take care of. Putin may want to just wait until Saakashvili falls on his own.

25 posted on 04/21/2012 8:52:34 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Ecliptic
Maybe Russia is using Iran as an excuse to take over Georgia when Iran is attacked.

I wonder if Obama has has made a deal with Putin stabbing Georgia in the back.

26 posted on 04/21/2012 8:59:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Thorliveshere

The question for Obama is ... whose fault is it this time?


27 posted on 04/21/2012 9:02:45 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Greysard
Don't underestimate the bandwidth of a few barges loaded with stuff.

The main battle tanks are the key. That is why they secured the main tunnel through the Caucasus the last time they invaded Georgia. They can roll over Georgia anytime they want now.

28 posted on 04/21/2012 9:21:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Gluteus Maximus
“I mean, what was Bush II thinking?”

The way I see it W wimped out for three reasons:
He was afraid of a preemptive military strike being labeled ‘cowboy diplomacy’ by the Washington Press Corp,

His intelligence stabbed him in the back by leading him to believe Iran is 20+ years away from an atomic weapon, and

the party bosses strongly advised W to leave the dirty work for another president, lest he be responsible for oil going to $300/bbl.

29 posted on 04/21/2012 9:22:50 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: Thorliveshere

So Russia’s idea is to attack Geogia and Armenia to save Iran from Israel?


30 posted on 04/21/2012 10:01:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: GreatRoad

I remember when the Russians invaded Georgia a few years back, the Russian troops all looked old, bald, and seriously out of shape, some of them looked like they had been pickled by vodka.


31 posted on 04/21/2012 10:11:17 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: yank in the UK

How young do you gotta be to drive a tank?


32 posted on 04/21/2012 11:24:16 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: LibWhacker
"That may embolden them to fully enter into an Israel-Iran conflict on the Iranian side with troops"

The Rooskies want Georgia.

yitbos

33 posted on 04/21/2012 11:34:11 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Diogenesis

That old book mentioned in the Bible is com in forward..


34 posted on 04/22/2012 12:03:47 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: MichaelCorleone

Thanks for that. One thing is certain: Dubya did America no favors with that. I mean, when we went into Iraq and Afghanistan I assumed it was to surround Iran. As it is, we had them surrounded, a big army and navy there, world opinion on our side for a while at least, and Iran without all those fancy new weapons they’ve been importing from the Chicoms. Wasn’t taking out Iran the whole point of the exercise? I guess not. Shows you what I know. Nada.


35 posted on 04/22/2012 1:00:45 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Revolting cat!

>>>>>>>>The Russkies must have good intelligence from Tel Aviv, as Tel Aviv has from Moscow. Lotsa Rusian Jews in Israel, lotsa Jews in Mother Russia.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

An idea Russia may be involved in any direct hostilities against Israel is plain stupid.

In is impossible since about 1992.

There is a powerful Jewish lobby in Moscow affecting desicion making, let alone about a third of Israel’s population speaks Russian as a second language (Even more than that in Israel’s armed forces).

Jews makes a majority of Russian elites, people of Russian descent makes a conservative core of Israel’s population.

Every Russian airport capable to serve a passenger airliner has regular flights to Israel, often as a single international route served by an airport.

They won’t rise arms against each other.


36 posted on 04/22/2012 3:51:36 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: chris37

About time anyone stands up to Iran and puts an ass whoopin on them dogs.


37 posted on 04/22/2012 4:40:44 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: yank in the UK

I remember when the Russians invaded Georgia a few years back, the Russian troops all looked old, bald, and seriously out of shape, some of them looked like they had been pickled by vodka.

That was because they weren’t Russian soldiers - they were paid mercinaries (basically militarized thugs) which Russia often uses for its more brutal and public mil ops.


38 posted on 04/22/2012 4:45:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Gluteus Maximus
Amazed we didn’t strike in 2005 1980
39 posted on 04/22/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Queeg Olbermann: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them.)
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To: Mom MD

Look up!


40 posted on 04/22/2012 5:37:53 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: mamelukesabre

And yet, they destroyed Georgian NATO/US trained/equipped army within hours of 1on1 battle.

Scary, isn it?


41 posted on 04/22/2012 7:32:33 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Yeah . . .

How is it that we keep letting America get bitch-slapped by the Mullahs?

42 posted on 04/22/2012 1:57:28 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) is a trade federation consisting of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Ukraine. Putin's Russian proxies have taken over Ukraine, Putin's Russia has invaded Georgia, and of course, Russia is itself a member of the CIS. Thanks Thorliveshere.
Pakistan Cyber Force [Official] Networked Blog: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia & World War III [Monday, June 27, 2011]

Pakistan Cyber Force [Official] Networked Blog: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Russia & World War III [Monday, June 27, 2011]

43 posted on 04/22/2012 7:26:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: keats5
Obama's October surprise?


44 posted on 04/22/2012 8:51:29 PM PDT by garjog
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