Skip to comments.Newt Trails Obama by Only 7 Points in Latest Rasmussen Tracking Poll (or It's Not Over Yet).
Posted on 04/21/2012 8:08:35 PM PDT by true believer forever
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I cannot understand how a principled conservative would be pushing for Robama - I mean Obomney - at this point. He isn’t the candidate for crying out loud!!!
I have some friends on FR who have said they will VERY reluctantly vote for him if he’s the choice but they hope that he is NOT and will vote for Newt in the primary (or have already). So this pre-emptive support for a liberal R is disgusting. And strange.
I’m still hoping for surprises at the convention, can’t help myself.
How do you think Newt will do in those states? How many delegates will he get?
I know people are feeling strong in De, the others I am not sure about. Delegate counts are very fuzzy, there are all sorts of rules and regs controlling them. About to get weather in some of those states, so maybe the faint of heart will stay home... Newt voters tend not to be faint of heart... :)
If FR made enough noise this would play out differently. But there are too many buying the American version of Pravdas stories. The MSM is pushing that it's over and the idiots are buying it. I've seen numbers posted on FR and Romney is in trouble. The OP's article points that out. But like good little sheep, they buy what the elites are selling.
That is April 12-15, 900 registered voters...
I am saying to you Romney supporter that you support deception of conservatives and I will have none of it. I will never vote for a liberal period.
Conservatives are big enough to fight a 2-front war, one against the democrats and one against democrats in republican clothing.
See the George Washington graphic above!!!
If he had been like these Romney supporters we would have remained a colony of Great Britain instead of becoming the USA.
“You don’t know me. And my vote is MINE”
I’ve got a 50-50 shot at being right, assuming you even vote.
I don’t need to know anything more than that.
You can vote for Obama or Romney. As foolish as you are falling for the Newt nonsense (and you’ve got plenty of company) I don’t think you’re stupid.
You’ll pull the lever, like me, for whomever isn’t Obama.
This discussion at this point should be about 2016, and what, if anything, conservatives will do to not get a repeat of 2012, 2008, 2006, 2004, 2002, 2000....
Newt’s gonna throw in with Romney if he can get enough delegates to matter to him. So will you.
You have always been a divisive and insulting poster when it comes to conservatism.
Youll pull the lever, like me, for whomever isnt Obama.
No. I won't. I have to answer to God and I will NOT stand in front of Him and make excuses as to why I did not take a stand.
Romney is as liberal as Obama. You have not demonstrated otherwise. All you have done is use emotion and insults none of which trumps fact.
“You have always been a divisive and insulting poster when it comes to conservatism. “
I understand that you find it insulting that I’m of the opinion that Newt is using conservatives to advance Newt, just like Newt used the Catholic church to advance Newt, and Newt will use Romney to advance Newt if he can.
If you think God will judge you on the political candidates you support - I don’t think you’ll be at a particular advantage as a disciple of Newt.
“Romney is as liberal as Obama. You have not demonstrated otherwise.”
Why would I? It’s a good argument. The only argument for Romney I can find is that he isn’t as Marxist as Obama.
You gotta pick one or the other.
That is not what I was referring to and you know it.
Also the above is based on cobwebs and fantasy. Is that the Romney camps new meme? I'm not surprised.
You gotta pick one or the other.
Do I? The primary is not over and your propaganda isn't working.
“That is not what I was referring to and you know it”
No, I don’t know what you are talking about, and if it’s not relevant to the thread, complain about me later to someone else.
“Also the above is based on cobwebs and fantasy”
Newt is all about Newt. All politicians suffer from inflated egos, but none suffer it more than Newt.
Isn’t there a problem with the fantasies so many have about Newt being relevant?
“Do I? The primary is not over and your propaganda isn’t working.”
Yes, if you vote in November, you won’t be voting for Newt. Even Newt admits that.
It’s over for Newt. We know that much. The primary performance is a result of votes. Votes are not propaganda.
Not a fact in sight.
Its over for Newt.
More elitist propaganda. The MSM and RNC can lie all they want and you can push the lies if you like. Romney does NOT have 1144. And the primaries are not over.
I have other things to do. Have a wonderful Sunday.
“More elitist propaganda.”
Yes, when Newt says “Romney is the likely nominee” it is propaganda.
Sadly, thanks to Newt not dropping out when he saw he was not winning contests, Romney WILL BE the Republican nominee, so to send a message to the Republican establishment, I will be voting for Rick Santorum in Tuesday’s primary.
If anybody wants to vote fro Romney in the General, it is understadable because Obama is far worse.
BUT this is the PRIMARY SEASON, so let’s send a message to hopefully get more fairness in future elections.
Getting a little defensive? lol
I’m late getting to my pings from my friend, DJ, so I must add, that I have read the exchanges and I am not voting for Romney either if he’s the GOP-E’s nominee.
He will have bought and slimed his way to their nomination without my vote, so he can sure buy the election without my vote too. I can’t fathom how “we” are supposed to win, when the GOP-E puts up one big government, pro-abortion liar against another.
Now you’re being silly, sweetie, why should the candidate with 11 wins drop out before the candidate with only 2 wins?
Rick had a talk with Newt, but Newt wouldn’t drop out, so Rick realized there was no sense of continuing if Newt didn’t drop out.
Too bad Newt didn’t have some sense; we’d have Santorum instead of Romney.
“we are supposed to win”
“we” lose if we don’t work to educate folks that those government checks, bennies, and freebies are not consistent with conservatism for the 2016 presidential election. It may be impossible, but it must be done......
The 2012 primaries are all but over. It is going to be, with a high degree of certainty, between Obama and Romney. Since voting for the “most conservative” doesn’t really apply, I’ll opt for voting for the “least marxist”.
Rick “Snarlin Arlen” Santorum is a fiscal liberal who supported Romney in 2008 and was his stalking horse in 2012. He dropped out because he couldn’t win his home state. I have no respect for him. None.
Rick endorsed Romney ONLY 6 days before Romney dropped out - HARDLY a strong endorsement. (which Rick only gave because he thought, at the time, that Romney was better than McCain.)
I have lost so much respect for Newt for giving us Romney. Shame on Newt.
“Democrats created the last $5 TRILLION in new debt since 2006 (after Santorum left office, btw)
If we want to vet Santorum for real and not just throw talking points
lets go to the record. The record will show that Santorum was and is a solid, mainstream conservative Congressman and Senator. In the 1990s, Santorum was a part of the Gingrich-led Congress that balanced the budget. And in 2002 to 2006 the budget deficit went to $250 billion high but nothing like the level under Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Claims that Santorum is a big-government conservative are simply contrary to his full record and his conservative agenda as a candidate for President, where he wants to repeal Obamacare, cap spending at 18% and follow the Ryan roadmap and pass the BBA.
While Gingrich criticized the Ryan roadmap, Santorum embraced it.”
Of course, some will ignore these FACTS.
That's the funniest excuse that I've read in a long time! LOL
What's the excuse for his fiscal irresponsibility? Bad eyesight? LOLOL!!!!!
If we want to vet Santorum for real
Look chickie, YOU brought Santorum into a Gingrich thread. Bad idea.
Democrats created the last $5 TRILLION in new debt since 2006 (after Santorum left office, btw)
Oh good gravy! He wasted money but not as much as Democrats? LOLOL!!!
Oh my! Funny stuff!
It's been fun but I have to cook dinner.
Democrats created the last $5 TRILLION in new debt since 2006 (after Santorum left office, btw)”
I didn’t write that, the author at Red State did, probably to show how silly Rick bashers are by blaming him for everything.
Too bad you didn’t read the rest of the excerpt which shows what a fiscal conservative Rick was/is, and he embraced the Ryan plan, while Newt DID NOT.
So tell us, why were you afraid to read the entire excerpt showing FACTS on Santorum’s fiscal conservatism?
Thanks, but what does PPP stand for? (I’m showing my ignorance here:-)
That's okay, "Public Policy Polling", they are a dem pollster group, but have been pretty close in the repub primaries so far... their bias shows up a little in dem/rep match-ups, I've been told...
Some Red State authors are intelligent enough to agree with me, and some are not.
Anyway, here’s something about the man who Newt helped get the nomination:
Todd Starnes: “Details Romney in 2002 printed flyers that “promised to protect a woman’s right to choose” - p230 “The Real Romney”’
That article lists Santorums record when you scroll down. Even you can’t hide it. Ignore it but not hide it.
Good luck to your candidate which is probably Newt.
I’m not particularly a Newt basher or a Romney lover. I’m just a pragmatist looking toward Obama’s defeat on 11/06.
If Obama wins, many - probably most of his programs, XOs and regulations will be very hard to overturn or reverse.
Plus, he could likely get another chance to install a long-lived liberal on the SCOTUS. Maybe more than one.
There is nothing in Romney's record that would support their fantasies that he could be "controlled, guided or pushed" to the right. And one can't believe what Romney says as he will say whatever is expedient to reach his goal.
I'm truly shocked at those who have caved to the elites fear-mongering.
Why would I want to hide Santorum’s record?
“American Conservative Union 88%
National Right to Life Committee 100%
Americans for Tax Reform 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce 88%
League of Private Property Voters 94%”
Not jolly, just confident I am right that Romney will be the nominee. I’m 100% confident that time will prove me correct.
Seeing reality clearly isn’t defeatism, it’s called being accurate. Fighting a war that can’t be won isn’t defeatism, it’s a waste. If I thought there was even a 1% chance of getting Newt in, I’d be fighting to make it happen. But there isn’t. Instead I’m gonna work to get a conservative Congress (to contain Romney’s liberalism) and i’m going to work to defeat Obama (and stop his untethered 2nd term that would be a radical reign of Marxist insanity).
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